Timothy Iseler

The Thing We Never Talk About

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The Thing We Never Talk About is an educational podcast about personal finance for creatives and other weirdos. We'll discuss managing cash flow with a lumpy income, when to save & when to invest, and how to reduce stress & build confidence when it comes to your money. No hot stock tips, no complicated strategies, and no finance bro jargon. We'll hear from artists, musicians, creative professionals, and other weirdos about how they navigate these questions for themselves. The Thing We Never Talk About is hosted by Timothy Iseler, CFP®, a former recording & touring audio engineer with 18 years...

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Timothy Iseler

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Latest episode

Jul 6, 2026

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Episodes

Is This About The Money? 06.07.2026

A surprising amount of what looks like a money problem is actually something else wearing a money costume. Tim shares a story from his early touring days, when a tour manager's blunt question — "Is this about the money, or is it something else?" — cut through a negotiation in under a minute. He applies that same question to financial planning, using the common example of someone wondering if they'...

Katie Cunningham - Producer & Writer-Director 29.06.2026

In this episode, Tim sits down with Katie Cunningham, a freelance producer and writer-director, for a conversation about risk, identity, and how she built a creative life on your own terms. Katie shares the story of leaving a corporate marketing job in 2022 to write and direct a self-funded short film (even though her finances weren't necessarily ready for the leap), and how that decision led to l...

You Can't Out Earn Your Spending 22.06.2026

When people feel financially stretched, it can be hard to decide where to cut back. What if you just focused on earning more instead? It seems like the logical solution — but there's a problem with that logic: almost everyone increases their spending when their income goes up. The result is that you find yourself right back where you started, just at a higher level. In this episode, Tim shares a r...

Rob Mazurek – Abstractivist 15.06.2026

In this episode, Tim sits down with Rob Mazurek — composer, painter, and self-proclaimed abstractivist — for a wide-ranging conversation about what it looks like to build a life entirely around creative vision. Rob traces his path from Chicago's boundary-pushing music scene of the '90s through his current life in Marfa, Texas, where he and his wife have built a low-overhead, high-quality existence...

When Your Bank Account Stops Making Sense 08.06.2026

Most people with unconventional careers started out with a simple financial dashboard: one look at the bank account told them everything they needed to know. But over time, as careers grow and income gets real in a new way, that single number stops telling the whole story. Tim walks through what happens when the bank account stops making sense: why leaving too much money sitting in cash trades sho...

Mary Lattimore — Musician 01.06.2026

In this episode, Tim sits down with Mary Lattimore — classically trained harpist, solo recording artist, and film composer — for a candid conversation about building an unconventional life in music. Mary traces her path from growing up around the harp in Asheville, through years of juggling multiple part-time jobs in Philadelphia, to the Pew Fellowship that gave her the financial breathing room to...

What Money Can’t Buy You 25.05.2026

You know what they say about money & happiness — but we all still want to try a little bit, right? In this solo episode, Tim shares a personal story from his touring career: the year he made the most money he'd ever made as an audio engineer, stayed in nice hotels, and ended up feeling ... deeply unhappy. What was missing was human connection, the sense of being part of a team, the feeling tha...

Cheetie Kumar - Chef & Owner (Ajja & Big Cat) 18.05.2026

In this episode, Tim sits down with Cheetie Kumar — chef, owner of Ajja and Big Cat in Raleigh, NC, and two-time James Beard Award nominee — for a wide-ranging conversation about what it looks like to build a life and a business from scratch with more passion than experience. Cheetie traces her path from immigrating to the US as a child, through punk rock and bartending, to opening a music venue a...

Getting Your Financial House In Order 11.05.2026

Most people's financial lives are spread across a patchwork of accounts, loans, insurance policies, and retirement funds — some forgotten, some incomplete, some never quite dealt with. Getting your financial house in order means bringing all of it together in one place so you can finally see the whole picture. Tim walks through the process he uses at the start of every financial planning engagemen...

Andrew Sandoval - Producer & Book Publisher 04.05.2026

In this episode, Tim sits down with Andrew Sandoval — producer, manager, and founder of Beatland Books — for a wide-ranging conversation about a life built entirely around music fandom. Andrew traces his path from publishing a music fanzine as a teenager to writing liner notes, managing the Monkees on their 50th anniversary tour, and eventually launching a book company producing deluxe, limited-ed...

What We Talk About When We Talk About Investing 27.04.2026

Most people use the words "investing" and "trading" interchangeably — but they're actually two very different games, and the one you choose to play makes all the difference. Trading takes a lot of work & relies heavily on luck with limited upside. Investing, by contrast, means committing money to things you believe are fundamentally worth owning and holding them long enough for compounding to...

Scott Adamson –  Touring Front Of House Audio Engineer 20.04.2026

In this episode, Tim sits down with Scott Adamson — touring front of house audio engineer and founder of The Production Academy — for a wide-ranging conversation about building a life in live sound. Scott traces his career from mixing indie bands in small clubs to working with Grammy-winning artists in arenas, sharing how luck, relationships, and just sticking around long enough opened doors he co...

Some Other Time, Later vs Right Here, Right Now 13.04.2026

In this solo episode, Tim explores the tension between planning for the future and actually taking action in the present. Using examples from fitness, travel, and financial planning, Tim makes the case that over-thinking and over-planning can quietly become an obstacle — doing the work to decide whether to do the work, without ever getting started. Thoughtful, deliberate decision-making matters, b...

Jason Narducy – Musician & Author 06.04.2026

In this episode, Tim sits down with Jason Narducy — musician, self-published author, and longtime member of Bob Mould's band and Superchunk — for a wide-ranging conversation about what it actually means to build a life in music. Jason shares the arc of his career, from a major label deal in the nineties through running a painting company for 20 years, to eventually going all-in on music again. He...

Investing Intuition vs. Evidence 30.03.2026

In this solo episode, Tim explores the tension between intuition and evidence when it comes to investing. He explains why reacting to how you  feel in the moment often leads to poor decisions, and how long-term data consistently points toward more effective strategies. Through real-world examples, Tim breaks down why trying to time the market rarely works, how automation and consistency can improv...

Christen Carter -  President, Founder, & Owner of Busy Beaver Buttons & Merch 23.03.2026

In this episode, Tim sits down with Christen Carter, founder of Busy Beaver Buttons & Merch, to explore how a DIY punk project grew into a decades-long business rooted in creativity, community, and resilience. Christen shares the scrappy early days of building a niche product for an overlooked audience, how she navigated major shifts in technology and demand, and the lessons she’s learned abou...

How I Invest My Own Money 16.03.2026

In this solo episode, Tim pulls back the curtain and shares exactly how he invests his own money — not hot stock tips or market predictions, but the philosophy and decision-making framework behind his choices. He explains why he invests, how he thinks about risk and time, why maintaining strong cash reserves is essential, and why his timeline shapes nearly every decision he makes. Tim walks throug...

Vish Khanna –  Host & Producer of Kreative Kontrol 09.03.2026

In this episode, Tim sits down with Vish Khanna, host and producer of the long-running podcast Kreative Kontrol, for a candid conversation about work, money, and creative independence. Vish reflects on leaving conventional media jobs to focus fully on his own show, and the emotional and financial tension that comes with choosing fulfillment over a steady paycheck. They explore how creative labor i...

When “Comfort Zone” Is SO Uncomfortable 02.03.2026

Getting stuck in a “comfort zone” is often a sign that something isn’t actually all that comfortable—especially when it comes to money and long-term decisions. In this episode, Tim explores why so many important financial moves get stuck in the “I should” category, why waiting for the perfect moment usually makes things worse, and shares five practical, low-pressure ways to break out of an uncomfo...

Sarah Williams - Co-Owner of Beardwood&Co. Branding Agency 23.02.2026

In this episode, Tim sits down with Sarah Williams for a wide-ranging conversation about her creative path, professional evolution, and the realities of building a sustainable career on her own terms. Sarah shares her journey from early employee to co-owner & co-CEO, and how her leadership evolved as the company grew. She also reflects on burnout, delegation, financial stability, and redefinin...

All About IRAs 16.02.2026

In this episode, Tim breaks down everything you need to know about Individual Retirement Accounts (IRAs) and how they fit into a long-term financial plan. He explains the differences between Traditional and Roth IRAs, who can contribute, how much you can save, and how taxes work both now and in retirement. Tim also covers investment choices inside an IRA, rules around withdrawals, and advanced opt...

Emily Flake – Cartoonist 09.02.2026

In this episode, Tim talks with cartoonist, writer, and teacher Emily Flake about building a creative career through multiple income streams, persistence, and adaptability. Emily shares what it’s really like to work in fields where rejection is common, success is unpredictable, and financial stability requires constant adjustment. Together, they explore the tension between creative fulfillment and...

Easy Cash Flow: The “Reservoir System” 02.02.2026

Managing money with an up & down income can feel overwhelming, especially when it comes to planning for the future. In this episode, Tim introduces the “Reservoir System,” a simple, intuitive framework for managing cash flow when your don't know how much you'll make this month or this year. Using the metaphor of managing a town's water supply, he explains how checking, savings, and investment...

Tony Rolando – Founder of Make Noise Music 26.01.2026

In this episode, Tim  talks with Tony Rolando, musician, instrument designer, and founder of Make Noise Music, about building electronic musical instruments, growing a niche manufacturing business, and staying creatively grounded as success scales. Tony shares how his background as a musician shaped the unconventional design philosophy behind Make Noise’s modular synthesizers. They discuss the rea...

Why Pay Someone To Manage Investments? 19.01.2026

With investing tools cheaper & more accessible than ever, why would anyone still pay an advisor to manage their investments? In this solo episode, Tim breaks down how the biggest benefit of investment management isn’t better stock picks or secret knowledge, but help with follow-through, emotional decision-making, and actually doing the things you already know you should be doing. The episode c...

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