TechWolf
The TechWolf Podcast
Technology in HR is booming, yet confusing. Many vendors claim to include AI (agents), skills, seamless integrations, and other technologies in their product offerings. In practice, product promises often differ from reality. In this podcast, our host, Julius Schelstraete, holds no-nonsense conversations with business practitioners and thought leaders on everything related to "the skills-based organization": what it is, whether it's realistic, typical roadblocks, real-life use cases, and more. Join us as we move beyond the hype and examine skills-based HR from a critical, realistic lens!
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Jun 26, 2026
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“What took us months now takes minutes.” | Cotality CHRO Kendra Angier on building a skills engine, engaging the C-suite, and her 12-24mo strategy 26.06.2026 41:03
Most skills programs never make it out of the spreadsheet. Cotality's CHRO spent nine months trying to hand-build a skills taxonomy before she killed it and started over. In this episode, Kendra Angier explains how she rebuilt the workforce-intelligence stack around dynamic data, pulled her COO, CTO, and CFO into the buying decision, and earned an 80% employee NPS on skills along the way. It&#...
AstraZeneca’s 4-year Odyssey with skills intelligence | Lara Martinez, Global Director of Talent Intelligence, on why agility beats the SBO label 17.06.2026 38:05
Everyone wants a “skills-based organization.” Almost no one has built one. At AstraZeneca, Global Director of Talent Intelligence Lara Martinez Gonzalez has spent four years connecting a tangle of recruitment systems, development platforms, and job architecture into one language for the workforce, and she’s blunt about how hard it has been. In this episode, she argues skills is a data problem, n...
"Tell me about your strategy. Skills can wait." | Sandoz's Workforce Intelligence Lead on the one move that flips SWP from push to pull 25.05.2026 38:59
Most strategic workforce plans never make it past the CHRO's desk. The horizon is five years, the work is detailed, and the business leader you need in the room would rather talk about anything else. Felipe Hessel runs Workforce Intelligence at Sandoz, and he's worked out how to flip that dynamic, getting executives to pull SWP towards them rather than dodge it. In this conversation, he walks thro...
"Sellers close deals 14% faster." | Special Episode: Workday’s Josh Tarr & TechWolf CEO Andreas De Neve on Revenue-Linked Skills Strategy. 29.04.2026 11:46
When your sales team closes deals 14% faster, the "skills gap" stops being an HR problem and starts being a revenue solution. In this Special Episode , TechWolf CEO Andreas joins Josh from Workday to discuss the messy, high-stakes reality of transforming a 20,000-person organization. They move past the buzzwords to discuss why 75% of skills profiles usually fail and how Workday used AI to achieve...
"There would actually be a people shortage" | McKinsey’s Sven Smit & Anu Madgavkar on AI, Agents, Robots, and the $100-Trillion Economy. 15.04.2026 53:16
The world is bracing for mass unemployment, but McKinsey Global Institute researchers Sven Smit and Anu Madgavkar suggest we might actually face a labor shortage. As agents and robots move from theory to the office floor, the real friction isn't just the tech; it's our inability to learn as fast as the machines. This episode challenges the "soft skills" myth and explains why your AI strategy will...
"Skills are just a lazy proxy for work." | A transparent debate with FM’s Mike Manning & Preethi Gowda on why business problems must dictate talent data. 23.03.2026 35:31
It is rare to hear two leaders from the same organization move past the corporate script and into a "healthy debate" about the very foundation of their work. In this episode, Mike Manning (VP, HR Data & Innovation) and Preethi Gowda (Global People Insights Lead) from FM do exactly that. While Preethi advocates for the proactive power of layering skills with knowledge and ability , Mi...
"Stop pushing skills validation on everyone." | Why ServiceNow uses 'pull' talent strategies to find critical engineers. 09.03.2026 30:17
Most HR leaders are obsessed with "skilling" their workforce, but they’re ignoring the tasks that actually make up the work. Josh Newman, VP of Workforce Skills at ServiceNow, argues that skills data is essentially dead weight unless it’s tied to specific business processes and AI impacts. In this episode, Josh breaks down how ServiceNow is moving beyond simple taxonomies to create a &qu...
"Stop benchmarking your peers..." | Lessons from a CHRO & People Analytics duo (xABN Amro) on data-driven workforce strategy 24.02.2026 44:49
Most organizations are pouring millions into AI tools while their actual workforce strategy remains stuck in 2010. We talk about "efficiency," but we’re failing to measure the return on investment or the impact on the people actually doing the work. In this episode, Frank and Patrick from KennedyFitch break down why the "efficiency trap" is a race to the bottom and how HR leaders must shift from m...
“The 'All-Access Pass' to CEO Strategy.” | Experienced F500 CHRO, Jordana Kammerud, on the New Boardroom Mandate 10.02.2026 41:14
Most organizations are "dabbling" with AI while the technology's capability doubles every four months. Jordana Kammerud (Experienced F500 CHRO) and Mik Wornoo (Co-founder, TechWolf) argue that we’ve reached a turning point: the "Oppenheimer moment" of workforce transformation, where HR must either step up as a business strategist or watch the organization succumb to the weight of outdated role-bas...
“AI goals are now mandatory.” | How Genesys hit 75% skill adoption in 60 Days with Lisa Brockman (Part 2) 02.02.2026 12:20
Lisa Brockman, Talent Director at Genesys, returns to prove that skills-based transformation isn't a multi-year "maybe"—it’s a 60-day "must". After launching an AI-driven pilot to 2,000 employees in November, Genesys saw 75% of users validate their skills almost immediately. But they aren't stopping at data collection. In this episode, Lisa reveals why Genesys is making...
“People don’t care about skills.” | Genesys’ Lisa Brockman on the Internal-First Mobility Playbook (Part 1) 20.01.2026 12:27
Most organizations spend 18 months building manual skill taxonomies only to realize the data was stale before it was even finished. Lisa Brockman (Talent Management Director at Genesys) realized that if employees don’t trust the data, they won’t use the marketplace, leaving leadership to hire externally for skills they likely already own. In this PART 1 episode with Lisa, we break down how to move...
"Your business case isn't big enough. The best ones have these two elements" | SAP SuccessFactors' CRO on the revenue-first skills strategy 12.01.2026 24:03
Most companies are using AI to do the same boring work faster. They’re chasing "efficiency" while completely ignoring the fact that the work itself needs to be redesigned. Jan Duthoo (CRO, SAP SuccessFactors) joins us to explain why your business case for skills is likely too small, why L’Oreal and Safran used the exact same technology for opposite reasons, and how to stop "boiling the ocean" with...
“Skills tech is useless without this” | Advent Health’s culture-first playbook for skills transformation 05.01.2026 20:33
Most organizations buy the software and hope the culture follows. Advent Health did the exact opposite. Marquita and Mary Beth spent two years building a "culture of curiosity" before flipping the switch on their technology. In this live episode from Workday Rising, they break down why skills have a five-year shelf life and how to move your workforce from "episodic learning" to...
"If We Do Nothing, We Lose." | HSBC’s Blueprint for Future Competitive Advantage 03.12.2025 34:00
Is your workforce plan looking in the rear-view mirror, or is it predicting your next market win? Rob Etheridge, Group Head of Workforce Strategy at HSBC, argues that most organizations are drowning in "use cases" while missing the bigger picture: future competitive advantage. In this episode, Rob reveals why he rejected the "4,000 skills" taxonomy, why buying more HR tech won't solve your talent...
“AI Could Turn White-Collar Work Into the New Assembly Line.” | Former IBM CHRO Diane Gherson on the Future of HR (LIVE from Workday Rising) 25.11.2025 19:53
In this episode of the TechWolf Podcast , Julius Schelstraete sits down with Diane Gherson , former CHRO of IBM and current independent director at TechWolf. From her vantage point as one of the most influential HR leaders of the past decade, Diane shares a candid, strategic, and urgent message for HR executives navigating AI, workforce intelligence, and the shift to skills-based organizations. Di...
“Skills-based hiring isn’t broken. Your interviews are.” | The Business Case for Skills-Based Hiring at Workday With Marianne Herrmann 23.10.2025 29:55
In this episode of the TechWolf Podcast , recorded live at Workday Rising in San Francisco, Marianne Herrmann (Principal, Skills-Based Hiring Strategy & Enablement at Workday) reveals the real numbers behind a hiring revolution. Workday didn’t “experiment” with skills-based hiring; they rebuilt hiring around it . By combining AI-driven insights from TechWolf with behavioral science and relentl...
Special Episode | “The Skeleton of the Skills-Based Org” | A Deep Dive on Job Architecture with Richard Hanson (WTW) 29.09.2025 37:29
This special edition of the TechWolf Podcast puts the spotlight on a topic that’s often misunderstood, frequently overlooked, but absolutely foundational : Job Architecture . Julius sits down with Richard Hanson - former founder of Jobbable and now leading Digital Strategy & Innovation at WTW - for a deep, candid exploration of the frameworks behind workforce transformation. Whether you’re map...
"HR Problems Became Business Problems. For the first time" | TechWolf Founder & President Mikael Wornoo on Task Data, Workforce Planning & the New HR Mandate 12.09.2025 21:36
In this episode of The TechWolf Podcast , host Julius Schelstraete speaks with Mikael Wornoo , co-founder of TechWolf and the leader of its US expansion. Calling in from New York, Mikael lays out why skills data alone is no longer enough —and how task-level intelligence is the key to making workforce AI transformation actionable. From task automation to strategic workforce planning, this episode u...
“Excel Didn’t Help in a Crisis” | How the Belgian Government Built a National Skills System from Scratch 11.09.2025 21:49
In this episode of The TechWolf Podcast, Carolien Sonck, Director of Support Services at the Belgian Government, joins Julius Schelstraete in Ghent to share a remarkable transformation story. When the COVID-19 crisis exposed a fundamental blind spot in their workforce data, Carolien and her team set out to build something entirely new: a skills-based workforce intelligence system that could suppor...
“We Built Competency Models. They Weren’t Enough.” | Sanofi’s Guillaume Lavoix on Building a Workforce for the AI-Driven Pharma Era 30.07.2025 31:37
In this episode, Guillaume Lavoix, Global Skills Intelligence Lead at Sanofi, shares how one of the world’s largest pharma companies is embedding skills at the heart of its transformation. Guillaume explains how Sanofi’s “Skills Power” program emerged from a shifting business strategy: moving toward R&D-driven innovation and AI-enabled drug development. He details the early steps — from buildi...
One Common Language of Skills In a Decentralized and Global Group | How Atlas Copco Group Is Using AI to Rethink Talent Strategy 30.06.2025 21:38
In this episode of the TechWolf Podcast, we travel to Stockholm to meet Cecilia Sandberg , Chief HR Officer, and Dorna Shafiei , VP Talent Management at Atlas Copco Group. Together, they break down the practical journey of making a 55,000-person industrial tech company skills-enabled, without introducing a new platform or compromising on cultural values. The conversation covers internal mobility,...
Why Skills-Based HR Is Still Stuck | Harvard Prof. Joseph Fuller on Cracking the People-Productivity Code 22.06.2025 1:01:45
Why do so many companies say they’re going skills-based, but still hire like it’s 2005? In this episode of The TechWolf Podcast, Julius sits down with Harvard Business School Professor Joe Fuller to uncover the disconnect. From the real business case for skills to the hidden role of AI, Joe makes one thing clear: skills are more than an HR experiment—they’re your edge in a high-stakes transformati...
“We Needed More Skilled Talent to Save Lives” | How Bristol Myers Squibb Used Skills Data to Solve a Life-or-Death Talent Shortage 17.06.2025 33:44
In this in-person episode of The TechWolf Podcast , we sit down with Ben Wein , Director of Workforce Skills Enablement at Bristol Myers Squibb (BMS) , live from the Flanders House in New York City. Ben shares the inside story of how one of the world’s largest pharmaceutical companies is becoming a skills-based organization—starting with a business-critical talent shortage in cell therapy manufact...
You Can’t Nail Skills Without Tasks | Marc Ramos & Jeroen Van Hautte (TechWolf) on Redefining Work With Task Intelligence 10.06.2025 1:04:19
In this episode of The TechWolf Podcast, Marc Ramos, industry learning leader with Google, Novartis, Microsoft, Cornerstone, and EdTech advisor to leading HR tech companies, joins TechWolf CTO Jeroen Van Hautte to explore the emerging frontier of task-based intelligence . Live from New York, we unpack how tasks are reshaping the future of work, why task data may be even more actionable than skills...
"You Don’t Have a Skills Problem—You Have a Data Opportunity" | Learnings On Skills Governance, Buy-In, and Momentum from Kason Morris @Merck 26.05.2025 40:59
In this face-to-face episode of The TechWolf Podcast, Kason Morris, Global Director of the Future of Work and Skills-Based Organization Strategy at Merck, joins us in New York City to discuss why skills are not a trend—they're infrastructure. With experience at Allstate, Salesforce, and now Merck, Kason breaks down the practical realities of skills transformation: where to start, how to prove val...
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