Samuel Wines // Ecotone Studio
The Strange Attractor
Welcome to The Strange Attractor, an experimental podcast exploring ways of being, seeing, and doing that are grounded in the interconnectedness and the systems view of life. Drawing on complexity science, philosophy, wisdom traditions, and bio-inspired design, we explore how learning to see differently can help us build and create a more resilient and regenerative future.
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Samuel Wines // Ecotone Studio
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Jun 29, 2026
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Episodes
What Does Dubstep Have to Do With Regeneration? ft. Murray Gray | TSA E22 29.06.2026 1:06:27
Send us Fan Mail What connects a Shoreditch nightclub at 2am, a palm agroforestry project in the Amazon, and the question of whether anything can ever truly be 'regenerative'? In this long-form conversation on Strange Attractor, Sam sits down with Murray Gray – CEO of Sustainable Table, former systemic venture builder at Metabolic, and Fresh Ventures – to trace a throughline from DJing a...
The Age of Algae: Seaweed, Systems & Regenerative Futures ft. Vasundhara Gaur & Simon Beirouti from Compound | 21 18.05.2026 1:32:52
Send us Fan Mail Plastic is everywhere, and not just in landfill. It’s in our clothes, our water, and the invisible systems that make 'single use' feel normal. We sit down with Simon and Vasundhara from Compound , a CoLabs venture exploring algae biomaterials, to ask a simple question with massive consequences: what if we could replace soft plastics with materials grown from seaweed? Vas...
Utilium: A Nature-Based Biofilm Buster ft. Dr. David Stapleton | E20 28.04.2026 1:29:35
Send us Fan Mail David is a researcher-turned-innovator with three decades in biomedical science, a PhD-era discovery that reshaped our understanding of energy metabolism, and a new company, Utilium , born from a hospital bed and a handful of rocks from Bunnings. In this episode, we sit down with one of CoLabs' Impact Members to explore his bio-inspired approach to biofilms: the invisible mic...
From Ocean Pests to Regenerative Products ft. Henry Cole from ROPA #19 04.03.2026 1:31:55
Send us Fan Mail Kelp forests are disappearing into white rock deserts, and Henry Cole is wading straight into the problem—then bottling the solution. We bring you a frontline look at how invasive seaweed and exploding urchin populations can be harvested to restore reefs and transformed into premium skincare actives and agricultural inputs that people already want. Henry’s journey runs from deep-s...
Rethinking Design, Systems & the Future of Materials with Sarah D'Sylva from Hyloh | #18 27.01.2026 1:27:31
Send us Fan Mail What if the issue isn’t the material itself, but the system wrapped around it? In this conversation, we jump straight into the uncomfortable truth that there are no sustainable materials – only better choices made in context. Joining us is designer and Halo co-founder Sarah de Silva, as we unpack how coatings, building codes, logistics, incentives and infrastructure can quickly tu...
From Lab Bench To Dinner Plate: Funding, Regulation, And The Future Of Cultivated Meat In Australia with Paul Bevan | #17 28.11.2025 1:16:43
Send us Fan Mail What does a $10k cultivated meat dumpling taste like? Pretty great. But honestly, that’s not the point. The real story is how fast that price is free-falling, and what that unlocks for real food on real plates. In this episode, we sit down with Magic Valley CEO Paul Bevan to get past the headlines and into the gritty, resilient work of building a cultivated meat company in Austral...
Crafting with Life: Mycelium, Biodesign, and a Regenerative Materials Economy with Amanda Morgan from Fungi Solutions | #16 02.10.2025 1:09:56
Send us Fan Mail If you could ask a living material to help fix our mess, what would you grow first – packaging, panels, or leather? We sit down with Amanda from Fungi Solutions to share how mycelium turns waste streams into durable, lightweight, and compostable products that actually work at scale. From early experiments binding fashion off-cuts to refined packaging that replaces polystyrene, we...
Stem Cell Banking for Pets: Paloma Newton's Journey to Building Elita | #15 29.06.2025 1:22:44
Send us Fan Mail What happens when a hospitality veteran with a passion for problem-solving discovers her new puppy is predisposed to joint issues? For Paloma Newton, it sparked, naturally, led to an Australian-first in pet healthcare. Paloma 's path to founding Elita is anything but conventional. Infact, her entire journey is about as unconventional as can be, but like most great innovators,...
Make It Stick: Plasma as a Platform Technology for Better Biomolecule Binding with Culturon | #14 24.03.2025 1:31:19
Send us Fan Mail When Stuart Fraser looked at the tech his physicist colleague Marcella showed him – a two-nanometer carbon layer that could bind biomolecules with unprecedented strength – he immediately recognised its world-changing potential. 'If I didn't commercialise this, it would be a tremendous waste for society,' he recalls thinking. That moment transformed Fraser from a red...
Redefining Cancer Diagnostics: The Promise of Precision Oncology with Martin from Oncoparse | #13 10.02.2025 48:11
Send us Fan Mail Join us as we welcome Martin Thompson , the visionary CEO and founder of Oncoparse , who has transformed personal adversity into groundbreaking innovation in the fight against pancreatic cancer. From his journey as an electrical engineer to co-founding Lenexa Medical, Martin's story is a testament to the power of design-led thinking and interdisciplinary collaboration. Discov...
Building Trustworthy Organisations with Nate Kinch #12 15.07.2024 1:07:12
Send us Fan Mail How can organisations build trust in a world filled with scepticism and uncertainty? Discover the answer with socio-technology ethicist Nate Kinch, who shares his expertise in integrating philosophy, cognitive science, and systems theory to operationalise trustworthiness through design thinking. Nate offers a compelling definition of trust as the willingness to be relationally vul...
The Future of Female Healthcare with Ariella Heffernan-Marks from Ovum AI | #11 26.05.2024 1:20:39
Send us Fan Mail When Ariella Heffernan-Marks traded her stethoscope for a Software Startup, she didn't just shift careers—she went on a mission to redefine women's healthcare through the power of AI. Our latest episode welcomes this tenacious CEO to share her story of resilience, defying sceptics to lead a platform that's transforming the way female health literacy and collaborativ...
The Lab Manual: Navigating the Challenges of Building Lab Space with Aaron Budai from Amicus | #10 08.05.2024 1:16:07
Send us Fan Mail Prepare to be schooled by the lab virtuoso himself, Aaron Budai from Amicus Labline, as he takes us under his wing, imparting wisdom on the subtleties of lab creation. This episode promises to equip you with the knowledge needed to navigate the nuanced landscape of lab design, avoiding the dreaded pitfalls that often besiege the unwary as they venture out on their lab-building jou...
From PFAS Removal to Sterile Surfaces, with Vignesh from PuriflOH | #9 27.03.2024 55:11
Send us Fan Mail Join us as we dive into a discussion with one of our long-time members, Vignesh from Purifloh. We explore the multitude of applications for purifying water, sterilising surfaces, destroying PFAS, and even improving how we preserve food. Tune in and discover the interplay of natural principles and human ingenuity that's shaping a cleaner, healthier world. Water is life, and th...
Bridging Worlds: Technology's Impact on Society with Physicist-Turned-Entrepreneur Aqeel Akber | #8 04.03.2024 1:21:31
Send us Fan Mail We recently reconnected with Aqeel Akber, a nuclear physicist turned entrepreneur and co-founder of AI and Data consultancy Thaum . 15 minutes into our catch-up at Market Lane over a batch brew, we decided to jump behind the mic for an impromptu exploration into the heart of technology's impact on society. It's not every day that you meet a kindred spirit at Burning Seed...
CoLabs Updates #1 - Monash Precinct Developments, Civic Science Hub Relaunch and Member Updates with Andrew Gray and Samuel Wines 16.02.2024 39:27
Send us Fan Mail We're experimenting with a first for us on the podcast: a shorter, condensed version where we (Andrew and Sam) cover off what has been happening recently in and around the lab. This conversation includes updates on: Our new site that is being built in the Monash Precinct Our civic science hub, BioQuisitive and it's relaunch Two of our members that are graduating! A fe...
Improving Female Fertility Outcomes using Lab-On-A-Chip Technology with Edgar Charry, co-founder of Symex Labs | #7 04.02.2024 1:00:26
Send us Fan Mail For this episode, we sat down with Edgar Charry, the co-founder of Symex Labs, to explore the nuanced and deeply personal world of reproductive health. This episode brings forth a candid account of Edgar's startup journey, driven by his own fertility challenges. Together, we chart the human experiences that fuel scientific breakthroughs, and how Edgar's venture is carvin...
A Deep Dive into Synthetic Biological Intelligence with Hon Weng Chong from Cortical Labs | #6 19.01.2024 1:25:51
Send us Fan Mail Have you ever wondered what happens when the frontiers of biology and technology collide? Hon Weng Chong, the CEO of Cortical Labs, sits down with us and takes us on a recap of his journey thus far. Starting with his transition from being a medical doctor, through to being a tech innovator, Hon takes us through the crests and troughs of startup life, explores some of the philosop...
Dissecting Media Bias and AI's Role in Research and Innovation with Ben Field and Juistin Beaconsfield from Raava | #5 30.11.2023 1:35:16
Send us Fan Mail Ready to delve into the world of AI startups, media bias, and the future of research and education? This episode promises an enlightening conversation with Ben and Justin, a.k.a 'the AI boys' the brains (and potential boy band) behind Rava, an emerging AI startup and impact member at CoLabs Australia. We explore their journey into this fascinating field and the decision...
Creating Regenerative Materials Economies: A Conversation with Tina Funder from Alt.Leather | #4 02.11.2023 52:09
Send us Fan Mail Imagine a future where materials like leather are sustainable, ethical, and biobased, harming no animals in its production. Imagine a world where your leather handbag could be thrown in your garden at the end of its life, where it could decompose and actively regenerate the soil. Luckily for us, this vision of an entangled future where nature-grown and human-made collide is closer...
Exploring Practical Tech Ethics with Mathew Mykta and Nathan Kinch from Tethix | #3 02.11.2023 1:48:07
Send us Fan Mail In this whirlwind of an episode, we sat down with Mathew Mykta and Nathan (Nate) Kinch from Tethix. In this episode, We took a deep dive into Tethix's SMILES framework (the Symbio-Memetic Interwoven Language Embodiment System), which works at the intersection of transdisciplinary theory, reflective practice, and a deep ecological orientation. We ventured into the realm of Ele...
Cultivated Meat: A conversation with Paul Bevan and Andrew Laslett from Magic Valley | #2 19.08.2023 1:26:15
Send us Fan Mail For our next edition of The Strange Attractor, we were joined by Paul Bevan and Andrew Laslett, hosts of The Magic Hour Podcast. Paul, Andrew, and Sam chat about the story behind Magic Valley and its people - one of several startups working at Co-Labs' shared lab space in Brunswick. We discuss a wide range of topics, from activism, innovation in Australian labs, current hurdl...
Co-Labs: The Origin Story with co-founders Samuel Wines and Andrew Gray | #1 01.02.2023 1:20:29
Send us Fan Mail Welcome to the Inaugural Edition of The Strange Attractor! In this podcast, we delve into the Co-Labs ' origin story, exploring where we came from and how we managed to build Victroia's first co-working lab and transdisciplinary innovation hub. We also discuss some of the fun projects that are happening in the lab. Links to the members we discussed can be found below: ...
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