Ron Baker and Ed Kless
The Soul of Enterprise: Business in the Transformation Economy by THRESHOLD
The Soul of Enterprise is designed to champion the insight that wealth is created by intellectual capital, a product of the inexhaustible human spirit. Wealth is above all an accumulation of possibilities. These possibilities lie hidden in the womb of the future, waiting to be discovered by human imagination, ingenuity, and creativity, manifested in free enterprises dedicated to the service of others. Tune in to The Soul of Enterprise, with Ron Baker and Ed Kless, broadcast live.
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Jul 10, 2026
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Episodes
Episode 370 - Third Interview with Economist Michael Munger 17.12.2021 56:29
We are honored to welcome back, for the third time, economist Michael Munger. He's the author of many great books, including Tomorrow 3.0; Is Capitalism Sustainable?; and The Sharing Economy. Join Ed and Ron for what will surely be an enlightening and fun conversation with one of our favorite guests.
Episode 369 - Interview with Colin Rule, President and CEO of mediate.com 10.12.2021 55:41
Ron and Ed first encountered Colin Rule's work when reading Richard and Daniel Susskind's book, The Future of the Professions (Episode 74) in which the online dispute resolution system used by eBay was touted as handling more cases per year than the entire US court system. In what promises to be a wide-ranging interview, Ron and Ed will explore this topic and more.
Episode 368 - Economic Lessons from Literature-The Verger and Harrison Bergeron 03.12.2021 55:20
In the past year, two short stories have come to Ron and Ed's attention that provide some economic insights: Somerset Maugham's The Verger and Kurt Vonnegut's Harrison Bergeron. In The Verger, a church employee is fired even though he does his work quite satisfactorily. Bergeron is a cautionary tale of the notion of equity - equality of outcome. Links can be found here if you want to read them bef...
Episode 367 - Interview with Samuel R Staley, The Beatles and Economics 19.11.2021 56:35
The Beatles are considered the most influential popular music act of the twentieth century, widely recognized for their influence on popular culture. The inability of other bands and artists to imitate their fame has prompted questions such as: How did the Beatles become so successful? What factors contributed to their success? Why did they break up? Ron and Ed will explore these questions and mor...
Episode 366 - Interview with Matthew Feeney - Eye to the Sky 12.11.2021 56:19
Drones are among the most exciting and promising new technologies to emerge in the last few decades. Photographers, firefighters, filmmakers, engineers, and retailers have all used drones to improve public safety, innovate, and enhance creativity. Yet drones pose unique regulatory and privacy issues, and lawmakers at the federal and state levels are adopting policies that both ensure the safety of...
Episode 365 - Second interview with Baruch Lev 05.11.2021 57:10
Ron and Ed welcome back Professor Baruch Lev from NYU Stern Business School. He was last on back in July 2016 and we discussed his book, The End of Accounting and the Path Forward for Investors and Managers. We talk more about that book and his more recent article in Accounting Today, The sad state of accounting standards.
Episode 364 - Interview with Marco Bertini - The Ends Game 29.10.2021 57:05
Would you rather pay for healthcare or for better health? For school or education? For groceries or nutrition? A car or transportation? A theater performance or entertainment? In The Ends Game, Marco Bertini describes how some firms are rewriting the rules of commerce: instead of selling the means (their products and services), they adopt innovative revenue models to pursue ends (actual outcomes)....
Episode 363 - The Ultimate Dragon Slayer, Daniel D. Morris 22.10.2021 55:41
Ed and Ron are honored to welcome back Dan Morris, CPA, to the show. He's a master at the value conversation, and implemented Value Pricing back in his firm in 1996. He specializes in cryptocurrencies, wealth management, asset protection, multinational tax structures, tax optimization and much more. An excellent conversationalist, you don't want to miss this episode with one of the most innovative...
Episode 362 - One Thing! 15.10.2021 56:54
Inspired by A. J. Jacobs when he appeared on Russ Robert's great podcast EconTalk, Ron and Ed have each been keeping a One Thing journal for the last few years. In this episode, they will share some of the best One Things.
Episode 361 - Free-Rider Friday! 08.10.2021 56:36
We miss Free-Rider Friday's, so were it bringing it back, but just this once. We used to do this on the last Friday of every month. Most of our shows are "topic" driven, where we dive deep into one subject. Free-Rider Fridays were designed to be "event" driven, whatever issues are in the news that we (or you) find worthy of commentary. In economics, free riding means reaping the benefits from the...
Episode 360 - Interview with Kimberlee Josephson 01.10.2021 55:26
In Episode 349, Ron and Ed shared their thoughts and concerns about Woke Capitalism. In an email, Dr. Kimberlee Josephson wrote them saying, I just began listening to your podcast and I'm glad to have stumbled upon it! I wanted to reach out about your Woke Capitalism/ESG segment since this is an area I am trying to voice concern over. Well, in this episode we look forward to Kimberlee sharing thos...
Episode 359 - Third interview with Joe Woodard 24.09.2021 58:14
Joining Ron and Ed this week is two-time Guest Joe Woodard. Joe's vision is to transform small businesses through small business advisors. In the service of that vision, he and his team educate, coach, provide resources and build communities for small business advisors, with the overarching goal of empowering them to play a powerful, high-impact advisory role with their clients.
Episode 358 - Subscription Economy Update 17.09.2021 57:26
In addition to a general Subscription Economy update, Ed and Ron will discuss what happens when the subscription model collides with a legacy model. There are essentially three ways to a launch a subscription model. What does the empirical report so far on the most optimal approach? Can you have two business models within the same organization? Join us for an in-depth look at these issues.
Episode 357 - Behavioral Biases 10.09.2021 55:59
Over 90% of decision-making is supposedly unconscious and automatic. Behavioral Economics has sought to understand human behavior. It has identified many human biases. It has also come under recent indictment because of fraud in its data reporting and the non-replication of its findings by other academics. Join Ed and Ron for a discussion of some of the more prevalent biases found by, and the crit...
Episode 356 - Interview with David C. Baker 03.09.2021 55:56
Ron and Ed welcome David C Baker, the leading authority on positioning, reinventing, and selling firms in the creative and digital space, to the show. David is the author of five books, three of which focus on the central elements of the business of expertise: positioning, financial management, and leadership. David speaks regularly on more than 70 topics relevant to entrepreneurial expertise, fro...
Episode 355 - Who Protects the Consumer More: Regulation or Reputation? 27.08.2021 55:53
How do we protect the consumer from shoddy, fraudulent, or dangerous products and services? There's a long tradition that government must do something, which has led to a proverbial alphabet soup of regulatory bodies: the FDA, CPSC, USDA, and many more. Join Ed and Ron as they explore the legitimate issue of market failure, and also the less recognized government failure.
Episode 354 - Interview with James R. Harrigan 20.08.2021 56:18
Three weeks ago, Ron and Ed interviewed Antony Davies co-host of the Word and Numbers podcast. This week they welcome Antony's co-host, political scientist James R. Harrigan. James is the F. A. Hayek Distinguished Fellow at the Foundation for Economic Education and the director of education at the Freedom Center at the University of Arizona. He co-hosts the Words & Numbers podcast and has written...
Episode 353 - Left to Right: Why the Traditional Political Spectrum is Wrong 13.08.2021 56:07
In government and political science courses, students are taught the traditional "political/economic spectrum." It shows Communism on the far left end of the spectrum; moving to the right, then Socialism; then Capitalism; and Fascism is at the far right end of the spectrum. Yet this spectrum is not only misleading, it is false. Join Ed and Ron for a discussion of why that is, and what the real pol...
Episode 352 - Reginald Lee on Cost Accounting and The Subscription Model 06.08.2021 54:49
Join Ed, Ron, and VeraSage Senior Fellow, and recidivist guest, Dr. Reginald Lee, as they engage in a round-table discussion about value, pricing, cost accounting, project management, and capacity; and how they all change, and don't change, in the subscription business model. This is an adaptation of a Bonus Episode from July 14th that ran for approximately 80 minutes, available to our Cost-Plus S...
Episode 351 - Interview with Professor Antony Davies 30.07.2021 55:44
Ron and Ed will be joined by Professor Antony Davies, associate professor of economics at Duquesne University. He is co-host of the podcast, Words & Numbers with Professor James Harrigan. He is co-inventor on a patent for generating supercomputing power from idle Internet-connected computers, and recipient of a NASA grant for developing statistical techniques for data mining using supercomputers....
Episode 350 - Ken Teasdale, Armanino Audit Partner, Cannabis Group 23.07.2021 54:22
Even though forty-five states permit marijuana, and one-third of Americans live in a location where recreational marijuana use is legal, it is still a controlled substance as a matter of federal law. Supreme Court justice Clarence Thomas recently wrote: "Once comprehensive, the Federal Government's current approach is a half-in, half-out regime that simultaneously tolerates and forbids local use o...
Episode 349 - Woke Capitalism: Virtuous or Virtue-Signaling? 16.07.2021 56:02
Should sustainability be our new standard for investing? According to Larry Fink of BlackRock (more than $7 trillion in assets) the answer is yes. The ESG movement is an investment trend focused on Environmental, Social, and Governance matters in assessing a company's long-term value. American investors have put more than $20 billion into ESG funds in 2019. Will ESG save the world from climate cha...
Episode 348 - Second interview with Mark Stiving 09.07.2021 55:35
Your market cares about how much value they will get from your product. Purchase decisions are driven almost entirely by the perceived value of the alternatives. This is just some of the wisdom from our Guest, Mark Stiving. While our conversation with Mark will focus on his new book Win, Keep, Grow: How to price and package to accelerate your subscription business.
Episode 347 - Project Management and The Subscription Model 02.07.2021 55:51
This episode is dedicated to the possibility that we can understand project management quite differently when we view it through the lens of the subscription model. Rethinking this is challenging because it requires us (read ED!) to think differently than we (HE) have (has) in the past. If you think you are capable to engage in this type of thinking (or just want to hear Ed have an on-air mental b...
Episode 346 - Interview with Mustafa Akyol 25.06.2021 54:26
Ron and Ed welcome Turkish journalist and author, Mustafa Akyol. Like Rabbi Daniel Lapin and Father Robert Sirico, Mustafa ardently defends the free market in a religious context in his case, Islam. In addition to writing, he is also a public speaker who has given hundreds of lectures and talks on numerous platforms, including TED, where he spoke on "Faith vs. Tradition in Islam." He has also been...
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