Susan P. Chen
The Skeptic & The Changemaker
A limited series of conversations with change makers in diverse fields - not just in HR. Over the next 4 months, I’ll be sharing conversations with change makers who’ve redefined how we build, lead, and grow teams. Some are founders. Some are operators. All challenge the idea that we must do things the way it has always been done.
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Episodes
Episode 4 - What if New Zealand is the perfect testing ground for global startups? 10.11.2025 39:40
What if New Zealand is the perfect testing ground for global startups? This question shaped our fourth episode of 𝐓𝐡𝐞 𝐒𝐤𝐞𝐩𝐭𝐢𝐜 & 𝐓𝐡𝐞 𝐂𝐡𝐚𝐧𝐠𝐞𝐦𝐚𝐤𝐞𝐫. In this conversation, Susan P. Chen, Ph. D. sits down with Jeffrey Ling, CEO of Christchurch City College and long-time startup ecosystem builder across Asia-Pacific, to explore how New Zealand’s unique market size, culture, and community make i...
Episode 3 - What if the risk is doing HR the old way? | ft. Stanley Henry 10.10.2025 54:01
What if the risk is doing HR the old way? This question shaped our third episode of The Skeptic & The Changemaker. In this conversation, Susan P. Chen, Ph. D. sits down with Stanley Henry, CEO of The Attention Seeker, a creative agency known for helping brands build audiences they can’t ignore. Stanley brings his trademark candor and storytelling flair to unpack how fractional HR can hel...
Episode 2 - What if HR Tech is making things worse? | ft. Vanessa Gutierrez 12.09.2025 47:05
What if HR Tech is making things worse? This question shaped our second episode of The Skeptic & The Changemaker. In this conversation, host Susan P. Chen sits down with Vanessa Gutierrez, founder of HRPartner.ai, and Founder & Chief Community Officer of AI for HR Community. A seasoned HR practitioner who’s not only building HR Tech, but also has worked with clients of all sizes and...
Episode 1 - Culture doesn’t scale unless you do it on purpose. 16.08.2025 58:58
That idea shaped our very first episode of The Skeptic & The Changemaker. In this kickoff conversation, host Susan P. Chen sits down with VJ Anand. A seasoned people leader who’s helped scale teams at Visa, Gojek, and high-growth startups across the region. They dive into the unspoken truths of leadership: • Why growing fast almost always means growing messy • H...
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