The Simmer
The Simmer
The Simmer explores and explains hot topics in restaurant technology and the future of hospitality. It's led by two industry veterans with a lot of opinions. Kristen Hawley has spent over a decade covering the beat for her newsletter Expedite and top titles including Fast Company, Business Insider, Bon Appetit, Eater, and Food & Wine. Brandon Barton is CEO of Bite, an industry-leading intelligent kiosk ordering software provider with nearly two decades of experience in restaurant tech. Each episode, the hosts interview some of the smartest people in hospitality to dissect what's happening now
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Jun 23, 2026
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Niko Papademetriou SVP, Qu POS 22.04.2025 44:55
Is the POS dying? What even is a modern point of sale? Can it shed its old image and become what it always wanted to be: the true hub of modern restaurant operations? Niko Papademetriou runs sales and business development at Qu, a point of sale system that’s thinking through what the true future for restaurants looks like. In this episode, we talk POS (a lot); restaurant work, and the tools oper...
Tammy Billings, Business Development, SignalFlare.ai 08.04.2025 48:46
Tammy Billings has worked in marketing and biz dev for decades and has plenty of experience with restaurant technology. In this far-ranging conversation, we talk about the past, present, and future of the industry. Plus: Want to get Kristen fired up? Talk about ethics in podcasting.
Suzie Tsai, CEO, Bonchon 25.03.2025 41:28
Suzie Tsai spent over a decade at restaurant powerhouse Brinker International, leading programs that included Chili’s white-hot beverage business, before landing the top role at Bonchon. In this episode, Suzie explains how a concept that launched (and then failed) in South Korea has found its footing in the US, growing over two decades. But this growth isn’t without challenges; Bonchon’s restauran...
Tom Cortese, Chief Operating Officer, Kernel Foods 11.03.2025 46:51
Kernel made a splash when it opened its first New York City restaurant in early 2024. The then-vegan restaurant’s star employee was a robotic arm tasked with moving food in and out of the oven, assisting human workers by handling much of the heavy lifting. But the robot, along with Kernel’s name and one-time signature green paint in stores, have been retired. Instead, Kernel Foods is working on a...
Michael Osanloo President & CEO, Portillo’s 25.02.2025 45:40
This episode starts with a lawsuit and an upset: Uber sues DoorDash in San Francisco, and New York Magazine declares all the cool restaurants are on OpenTable now. The drama! (Kind of.) Then, Michael Osanloo, president and CEO of Portillo’s — now a fast-growing, publicly traded restaurant company — joins the Simmer to talk marketing, loyalty, third-party delivery, and Chicago street food.
Abhinav Kapur Co-founder and CEO, Bikky 11.02.2025 38:59
We’re back on the restaurant loyalty beat this week with Abhinav Kapur, who’s led Bikky for nearly a decade. In this episode, we talk about developing loyal diners, email (and text!) marketing, and “tendies” from a new KFC spinoff, whatever those are.
Pablo Rivero, CEO, Resy 28.01.2025 35:39
Finally, Resy CEO Pablo Rivero joins The Simmer, completing our trifecta of interviews with leaders of the country’s largest reservations providers. In his role as SVP of global dining, he also oversees Tock, the reservations and ticketing platform Amex acquired last year for $400 million. It was a smart acquisition: American Express cardholders spent a staggering $100 billion (!!!) on dining in 2...
Zach Goldstein Founder and CEO, Thanx 14.01.2025 45:08
Zach Goldstein is optimistic about the year ahead for restaurants. As founder and CEO of Thanx, a leading guest engagement platform for restaurants, Zach is known for his honest and sometimes provocative takes on the future of the industry. In this episode, we tackle hot topics in restaurant loyalty including personalization, advertising, guest retention, and AI.
2024 Year in Review 30.12.2024 33:39
Here’s something different: for the first time, Kristen and Brandon aren’t hosting a guest on The Simmer. Instead, we’re talking trends — good, bad, and ugly — that continue to shape restaurants. In this episode we talk about restaurant tech consolidation, restaurant robotics, and what a new US administration might mean for restaurants and the people who work in them. Thanks for helping to make 20...
Geoff Alexander, President & CEO, Wow Bao 17.12.2024 49:30
Wow Bao started two decades ago as a brick-and-mortar restaurant in Chicago. Since then, it’s grown through modern channels like vending machines, deals with airports and sports stadiums, ghost kitchens, and frozen, packaged goods in grocery stores. In this episode, Geoff talks about his tech philosophy (tl;dr: it’s good to be first!), Wow Bao’s growth over time, and the challenges of selling one...
Christine Schindler, Co-Founder and CEO, Pathspot 03.12.2024 34:27
Over the last few weeks, foodborne illnesses have killed several people in the U.S., sickening many others. Outbreaks affected major restaurants and retailers from McDonald’s to Whole Foods to Walmart; the offending E. coli bacteria was traced to ingredients including onions, carrots, and broccoli. Christine Schindler founded Pathspot to make restaurants safer, using tech to support health and saf...
Lisa Grimm Co-founder and CEO, Roux 19.11.2024 43:34
Recipes on the internet have always been bad. They’re hard to find and even harder to mange. Many have tried to find a fix, but few have completely flipped the model on its head. Until now! Lisa Grimm is co-founder and CEO of Roux, which she describes as “the home of food culture.” It’s a place to find, store, modify, and share recipes while giving credit (and cash) to the original creator. (Join...
Sam Bernstein Founder & CEO, Table22 30.10.2024 38:57
Founder and CEO of Table22, Sam Bernstein, has some incredible news. He just closed a Series A funding round of 11 million dollars. In the latest episode, Bernstein talks about how Table22 is helping restaurants generate new revenue streams and innovatively bring their brands to life, fueling its mission to support merchants, restaurants, and shops in operationalizing unique offerings.
Alice Cheng Founder & CEO, Culinary Agents 22.10.2024 37:52
Alice Cheng launched Culinary Agents, a hiring platform for hospitality companies, 12 years ago. Since then, it’s served 2 million users, including more than 50,000 businesses, offering job listings, industry data, and educational content meant to inform and inspire the next generation of restaurant talent. On this episode, Alice debuts Culinary Agents’ newest endeavor: HospitalityCareerPaths.com...
Aaron Noveshen Founder & CEO, Starbird 08.10.2024 44:55
Chef, founder, and industry leader Aaron Noveshen helms San Francisco Bay Area’s Starbird, a chicken concept. Starbird debuted eight years ago hoping to “completely disrupt fast food,” per Noveshen. During that time, the brand has grown quickly, embraced most of the industry’s tech-forward growth tactics — including ghost kitchens, which he still talks about favorably! On this episode, Noveshen d...
Robert Sietsema Senior Restaurant Critic, Eater New York 24.09.2024 39:42
Robert Sietsema has been reviewing restaurants for over 30 years, and he has some thoughts. Specifically, in this episode, he has thoughts about QR code menus (absolutely not), reservations platforms (fine but he'd rather avoid), and social media ("It's putting me out of business."). Plus, Brandon and Kristen hang out in New York and make the restaurant technology introduction of...
Tracy Kim, CEO, Dig 11.09.2024 39:55
Dig, formerly Dig Inn, is an East Coast-based chain selling its plates, sandwiches, sides, and salads at 33 locations. CEO Tracy Kim joined Dig nearly three years ago and spent the past year-and-a-half in the top role. In this episode, we talk business growth, marketing, positioning, and, yes, kiosks for a growing brand with big plans for the future.
Debby Soo, CEO, OpenTable 27.08.2024 46:45
Reservations are having a moment. So when the biggest player in the game makes big changes to its platform, the industry pays attention. Debby Soo assumed the top role at OpenTable in the summer of 2020, when restaurants were reeling from the sudden onset of the pandemic that changed their business forever. In this episode, we talk about the changes Soo and her exec team have made at OpenTable, wo...
Gregg Majewski CEO, Craveworthy Brands 20.08.2024 37:07
What happens when you apply a startup-esque growth mindset, scale, and principles to restaurants? For Gregg Majewski, CEO of Craveworthy Brands, it means near immediate results. Majewski describes Craveworthy as a “restaurant platform company,” not a restaurant group, that gives brands tools and systems to scale, fast. It scaled from zero to 200 restaurants, and zero to $200 million in systemwide...
Matt Tucker, CEO, Tock 14.08.2024 50:21
It's been a busy few weeks in the reservations business. Over the summer, American Express, which already owns Resy, announced a $400 million acquisition of rival booking service Tock. A few weeks later, OpenTable shared its own big news, a deal with Visa to grant cardholders special access to restaurants. In this extra spicy episode, Tock CEO Matt Tucker wastes no time punching up at his bigg...
Nancy Luna, Restaurant Industry Journalist 10.07.2024 33:38
Nancy Luna is a veteran restaurant industry reporter and writer. She's covered restaurants in some capacity for over two decades for outlets including The Orange County Register, Nation's Restaurant News, and Business Insider. Starting as a blogger on MySpace (!!) during her local newspaper days, Nancy has carved out a niche that's served her as a journalist for decades. On this specia...
Chip Wade, CEO, Union Square Hospitality Group 18.06.2024 41:42
What's the future of full service restaurants? It's easy to get caught up in growth and scale, but in this industry segment, customer experience *really* matters. Chip Wade took the reins at Union Square Hospitality Group from its storied founder, Danny Meyer. In this episode, we talk about how Wade will move USHG into a new era, including HQ+, the company's new training program for bu...
Kyle Norton, Chief Revenue Officer, Owner.com 04.06.2024 39:54
In January, Owner.com announced a $33 million Series B round of funding, mainly from existing investors. According to Owner.com CRO Kyle Norton, it’s in service of helping mom-and-pop restaurants increase direct online sales. In this episode we talk about how restaurants can find and retain online customers, the evolution of restaurant discovery, and why working within narrow constraints — a parti...
Noah Glass, founder and CEO, Olo 21.05.2024 45:17
It's been almost 19 years since Olo's first customer, its founder's grandmother, placed a restaurant order via text message. In that time, tech has changed — a lot! Still, on average, just one out of every six restaurant orders comes through digital channels. In this episode, Noah Glass, known as one of the earliest restaurant technology operatives, describes this evolution and what he...
Will Guidara, restaurateur and author of Unreasonable Hospitality 14.05.2024 44:08
Since leaving Eleven Madison Park, the New York City fine dining restaurant he led to worldwide renown, nearly five years ago, Will Guidara has evangelized "unreasonable hospitality," or, as he defines it, the art of giving people more than they expect. As a professional speaker, he's managed to apply principles of running a successful and hospitable restaurant to other industries, f...
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