Fergus Bell, Tom Trewinnard

The Signal

News EN ↓ 13 episodes

AI is already reshaping journalism. So is the creator economy. And for most organisations, the real challenge isn’t knowing that, it’s working out what to do about it. The Signal is a weekly podcast hosted by Fergus Bell and Tom Trewinnard, co-founders of Fathm. Each week, they sit down with the people building the future of media, from newsroom leaders and product teams to technologists and creators, to explore how change is actually playing out in practice. The focus is simple: cut through the noise and get to what matters. That means real examples, honest conversations, and a clearer view o...

Author

Fergus Bell, Tom Trewinnard

Category

News

Podcast website

thesignalpod.co

Latest episode

Jul 9, 2026

Where to listen?

Podcasts in the app Replaio Radio Coming soon

Podcasts are coming to the app soon. Install now and be the first to see a whole new take on podcasts

Get it on Google Play Install for free Android 5M+ downloads · 4.8 rating iOS soon

Episodes

The New York Times is asking the wrong AI Question..." | The Signal Podcast | Ep 9 09.07.2026

Welcome to The Signal, hosted by Fergus Bell and Tom Trewinnard. This week: deconstructing New York Times Chairman and Publisher A.G. Sulzberger's keynote speech, "AI, Journalism, and the Uncertain Future of the Public Square," delivered at the World News Media Congress in Marseille. What are the double-standards at play? Is the news industry treating the sources of its own stories properly, and w...

Who actually pays for the news? Spider-Man, Superman and the weird economics of Journalism | Ep 8 02.07.2026

Welcome to The Signal, hosted by Fergus Bell and Tom Trewinnard. Have you ever wondered how journalism makes money? Or how news itself makes money? This episode is about the mechanics of journalism, so Tom and Fergus dig into a big spread of crucial topics: What is Reader Revenue? What about ad-blockers and paywalls? What about "mission driven" orgs and non-profits? They look at the rise and rise...

How a Global Media Giant Is Tackling AI Governance, Shadow IT & Training 900+ Journalists | Ep 7 25.06.2026

Welcome to The Signal, hosted by Fergus Bell and Tom Trewinnard. Fergus and Tom are in Marseille at the World News Congress and in this episode they talk to Olalla Maria Novoa Ojea, the Head of AI at Prisa Media, the world's largest Spanish and Portuguese-language media and entertainment group. Olalla is a working journalist, not a tech evangelist, who's spent her career inside the machine. She st...

How Ex-Washington Post creators built a 375K subscriber news brand | Local News International | Ep 6 18.06.2026

Welcome to The Signal, hosted by Fergus Bell and Tom Trewinnard. In this episode, Fergus and Tom talk to Micah Gelman and Lauren Saks from Local News International, the poster kids of the independent news brand universe. Founded mid-2025 when Dave Jorgenson, Lauren and Micah all left the Washington Post, LNI is a creator-led newsroom built on video, newsletters and direct audience relationships. G...

Australia's Social Media Ban: What Happens When Young People Stop Seeing News? | EP 5 11.06.2026

Welcome to The Signal, hosted by Fergus Bell and Tom Trewinnard. In this episode, Fergus and Tom consider Australia’s Social Media Ban, toxic spaces, resourceful teenagers, the limits of parental guidance and the real impacts of a reduced news diet. Social Media is the pathway to news, so how will these restrictions affect young people’s ability to access verifiable, quality news? How do you build...

How Newsrooms Should Actually Adopt AI (Beyond Efficiency) - Ep 4.1 05.06.2026

Welcome to The Signal, hosted by Fergus Bell and Tom Trewinnard. In this extra episode, Fergus and Tom consider where audiences are heading, the repurposing of content, efficiency vs creativity and future-casting. Sidenote: is it jif or gif? If you want to understand how the news is being created and distributed, how AI is - and can be - used in newsrooms, insights from media leaders and practical...

AI in Newsrooms: What 235 Newsrooms Taught Us About What Actually Works - Ep. 4 04.06.2026

Welcome to The Signal, hosted by Fergus Bell and Tom Trewinnard. In this fourth episode, Fergus and Tom dig into what they've seen and learned after working with nearly 250 newsrooms in 40 countries since September 2024. Trends, data, anecdotes and breaking open the misleading idea that all newsrooms are focused simply on replacing journalists. If you want to understand how the news is being creat...

AI in Journalism, “Human in the Loop” & the Rise of AI Podcasts | The Signal – Ep. 3 28.05.2026

Welcome to The Signal, hosted by Fergus Bell and Tom Trewinnard. In this third episode, Fergus and Tom discuss Digital Media Asia, the rise and rise of Winston and William Utomo's IDN Times, new business models for journalism, the oddness of AI-hosted podcasts and more. If you want to understand how the news is being created and distributed, how AI is - and can be - used in newsrooms, insight...

What Journalism Innovation Means in 2026 | AI, Newsrooms & Media Strategy | The Signal – Ep. 1 21.05.2026

Welcome to The Signal, hosted by Fergus Bell and Tom Trewinnard. In this first episode, Fergus and Tom dig into what "innovation" even means in 2026, the fragility of our shared digital history, the ethical perils of prediction markets, the rise of WhatsApp publishing, their own No Whinging mission statement and more. If you want to understand how the news is being created and distributed, how AI...

The Rise of News Creators & Live Streaming | International Journalism Festival | The Signal – Ep. 2 21.05.2026

Welcome to The Signal, hosted by Fergus Bell and Tom Trewinnard. In this episode, Fergus talks about what he saw and heard at the 2026 International Journalism Festival in Perugia. They chew over "what is a journalist?", whether Perugia was the Creator Festival, the power of the clip, the incredible rise of Live-Streamed news - looking in particular at Chile's first streaming news channel, Turno -...

Introducing the Signal Podcast 14.05.2026

Welcome to The Signal, hosted by Fergus Bell and Tom Trewinnard. In this full-length episode, Fergus and Tom explain who they are, walk us through their backgrounds in journalism and dig into what The Signal is about and who it's for. If you want to understand how the news is being created and distributed, how AI is - and can be - used in newsrooms, insights from media leaders and practical thinki...

Trailer: Welcome to The Signal 11.05.2026

On this new podcast from the co-founders of fathm , Fergus Bell and Tom Trewinnard explore their individual stories as journalists and newsroom innovators and explain what The Signal is for, who it's for and what sort of guest they'll be welcoming in. The focus is simple: cut through the noise and get to what matters, so if you work in journalism, media, content or technology - or you’re trying to...

Trailer: Welcome to The Signal podcast 07.05.2026

On this new podcast from the co-founders of fathm , Fergus Bell and Tom Trewinnard explore their individual stories as journalists and newsroom innovators and explain what The Signal is for, who it's for and what sort of guests they'll be welcoming in. The focus is simple: cut through the noise and get to what matters, so if you work in journalism, media, content or technology - or you’re trying t...

Listen to the The Signal podcast in Replaio

Radio and podcasts in one app - free, with no sign-up. Install today and do not miss the launch

Get it on Google Play

Replaio is not a podcast publisher; show names, artwork and audio belong to their authors and are distributed through public RSS feeds.