Mike Williams and Scott Schlofman

The Selling Podcast

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Feeling stuck in a sales slump? Pipeline looking thinner than a supermodel on a juice cleanse? Want to grow your business faster than a startup funded by a lottery winner? Then buckle up, buttercup, because "The Selling Podcast" is your new obsession! Join your seasoned (slightly graying but still very spry) sales pros, Mike and Scott, who collectively boast over 50 years of crushing quotas (and racking up enough airline and hotel points to live perpetually in a suite). They're not just here to drop wisdom; they're here to deliver a potent mix of "deep-ish thoughts and some truly mediocre advi...

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Mike Williams and Scott Schlofman

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Business

Latest episode

Oct 28, 2026

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Episodes

Stop Winging It: Why a Solid Pre-Call Routine Drives Sales Success 28.10.2026

Are your sales calls resulting in closed deals, or are you just going through the motions? In this episode of "The Selling Podcast," hosts Scott and Mike break down the ultimate pre-call routine that separates average sales reps from top performers. Drawing an amusing parallel to professional golfers following a strict pre-shot checklist, Mike reveals the four fundamental self-reflective questions...

Sharks and Sales: A Dive with Leah 21.10.2026

Join us for a fun conversation about sharks and life lessons! Leah, a ten-year-old shark enthusiast, joins us today, bringing a youthful perspective and a love for these majestic creatures. We kick off with a light-hearted banter about her age and the unique reason for her appearance on the podcast: to help lower our average listener age! Shark Stories and Insights Leah shares her fascination with...

Frictionless Selling: Are You Making It Too Hard For Your Customers To Buy? 14.10.2026

Friction kills deals before price ever does. Scott and Enigo Montoya break down how to make selling feel so easy that customers actually want to buy—and why common sales process mistakes can quietly cost you revenue. What starts with a painfully relatable checkout experience turns into a practical conversation about the hidden blockers that make buyers walk away. From endless paperwork and overcom...

From Bodybuilding to the Boardroom: Steven Staines on the Sales Grind 07.10.2026

In this episode of "The Selling Podcast," hosts Scott and Mike (joined by a "special guest" playfully introduced as Enigo Montoya) sit down with Steven Staines, the Director of Sales Development at Pinnacle West Medical. The central theme of the episode revolves around a provocative statement: Sales isn't "hard." While the hosts acknowledge that sales can be complex, complicated, and exhausting, t...

Why Your Current Sales Title is Holding You Back: From Sculptor to Sistine Chapel 30.09.2026

Feeling creatively stuck in your current role? Join Scott and the (self-proclaimed) "heartless" Mike on this week’s episode of The Selling Podcast as they dive into an unlikely masterclass on professional evolution: the life of Michelangelo. Forget everything you think you know about the Renaissance master. Mike, who admits he usually remains emotionally detached from art, shares why Michelangelo’...

What Your Hands Are Saying When You're Selling 23.09.2026

In this episode of "The Selling Podcast," hosts Scott and Mike tackle the 90% of communication that isn't verbal: body language and hand gestures during sales presentations. Prompted by Scott's recent broken hand and subsequent awareness of his own gestures, the duo explores the critical nuances of non-verbal communication in sales. They contrast high-energy, large gestures used in public speaking...

The Three Deadly Sins of Professional Selling 16.09.2026

In this episode of "The Selling Podcast," hosts Scott and Mike dive deep into the foundational behaviors that separate true sales professionals from the amateurs. Moving beyond simple tactics, they identify three critical mistakes that a professional salesperson should never make. The discussion covers: Talking more than you listen: Drawing parallels to the medical field, they argue that "prescrip...

Integrity: The Missing Ingredient in Sales Perceptions 07.09.2026

In this episode of "The Selling Podcast," hosts Mike and Scott engage in a deep philosophical discussion about the role of integrity in life and professional sales. Following up on previous conversations regarding trust and manipulation, they establish integrity as the necessary precursor and base for successful selling. The hosts explore defining integrity not just as a moral compass, but as "int...

Why You Can't "Build" Trust (And What To Do Instead) 02.09.2026

In this episode of "The Selling Podcast," hosts Scott and Mike engage in a philosophical debate regarding the nature of trust. Kicking off with some lighthearted banter and statistics showing men are slightly more trusting than women, they dive deep into whether trust is an inherent "on/off" switch or something that is incrementally earned over time. Scott argues that trust is a default setting—an...

"More Work" Cure for Burnout: Why Vacations Aren't Enough 26.08.2026

In this episode of "The Selling Podcast," Scott and Mike tackle the pervasive issue of burnout in sales. They define burnout not just as tiredness, but as deep emotional, physical, and mental exhaustion where the simplest tasks feel overwhelming. Challenging conventional wisdom, the hosts argue that simply taking a vacation is not the answer, as it often leads to returning to an unmanageable pile...

Why Sales Management Is Not Sales: The Final Sales Discovery Episode 19.08.2026

This episode of The Selling Podcast concludes the five-part series on sales discovery by examining why sales management is not sales and what it truly takes to make the transition. Two Different Skill Sets and Philosophies Sales professionals and sales managers perform completely different roles; great sales reps do not automatically translate into great managers, much like elite athletes rarely m...

How Do You Actually Leave Sales? The Truth About Career Transitions 12.08.2026

This episode of The Selling Podcast dives into the often-overlooked conclusion of the sales career path by exploring how you actually leave sales and manage career transitions. The "Grass is Always Greener" Trap Sales reps frequently look at peers and assume their jobs are easier, faster, or better. This constant comparison is a natural human tendency driven by the search for a path of least resis...

Luck, Networking, and Grit: How to Land Your First Sales Role 05.08.2026

This episode of The Selling Podcast continues the five-part series on sales discovery by tackling a practical, foundational question for newcomers and career switchers: How do you actually break into sales? Summer Sales as a Testing Ground The hosts explore the role of high-difficulty entry-level positions, such as summer door-to-door sales: Low Barrier to Entry : These roles often hire almost any...

Why Choose Sales? The Truth About the World's Best Profession 29.07.2026

This episode of The Selling Podcast continues the five-part series on sales discovery by exploring a fundamental question: Why in the world would anyone choose sales as a career? Why People Fall Into Sales The hosts discuss how most people don't actively map out a linear career path to sales; rather, they naturally fall into it out of necessity or everyday human interaction. The Power of Human Nat...

What is Sales? 5 Part Series All About Sales 22.07.2026

This episode of The Selling Podcast kicks off a five-part series on sales discovery by tackling a foundational question: What is sales, and how does it differ from persuasion, buying, or simply pitching an idea? Defining Sales vs. Persuasion The hosts debate the core nature of sales and where persuasion fits into the process: Scott's Definition : Sales is fundamentally about helping solve a proble...

Stop Being a Jerk: How to Perfect Your Sales Follow-Up Speed 15.07.2026

This episode of The Selling Podcast features hosts Scott and Mike as they discuss the critical, often misunderstood art of follow-up timing and the importance of maintaining trust in client relationships. The Three Speeds of Follow-Up The hosts outline three distinct speeds of communication that help maintain momentum without crossing the line into desperation or pressure: Immediate Response (The...

Are You in the Right Restaurant? Finding Joy and Success in Sales 08.07.2026

This episode of The Selling Podcast features hosts Scott and Mike as they discuss the critical mid-year ritual of analyzing your sales pipeline to set the foundation for next year’s success. The Mid-Year Pipeline Audit To ensure consistent growth, the hosts argue that you should always be planning at least two quarters ahead. They recommend a structured approach to auditing your current business:...

Why "Being Present" is the Secret Weapon of Top Sales Professionals 01.07.2026

This episode of The Selling Podcast features guest Jerry Gregory, a high-performing healthcare sales professional and multi-time President’s Club winner, discussing the discipline required to maintain a customer-centric approach. Core Principles of Customer-Centric Sales Servant Leadership : Success is not about the individual salesperson, but about serving the client (physicians, administrators,...

Building and Maintaining Momentum: The Rocket Fuel of Sales Success 24.06.2026

Just like a rocket consumes the majority of its fuel in the first minute of flight to break gravity, building momentum in sales requires significant, upfront energy. Once established, however, that momentum acts like a flywheel, making every subsequent action—from prospecting to closing—easier and more efficient. Three Strategies to Sustain Sales Momentum 1. Get Out of Your Head: Overanalyzing rej...

Mastering the Art of the Referral: Turn Success into Your Next Opportunity 17.06.2026

Are you struggling to fill your pipeline? Many sales professionals are hesitant to ask for referrals because they fear it comes across as self-serving or uncomfortable. In this episode of The Selling Podcast , Scott and Mike break down the three most effective strategies to turn satisfied customers into your best advocates, proving that asking for referrals doesn't have to be forced—it just requir...

From High School Dropout to Six-Figure Closer: The Unfiltered Journey of JB Fetzer 10.06.2026

In this week's episode of The Selling Podcast , we dive deep into the extraordinary life and career of JB Fetzer , a man who's seen and done it all. From humble beginnings as a ninth-grade dropout to becoming a top-tier sales strategist and a powerful voice in the entertainment industry, JB's story is one of relentless pursuit and unfiltered truth. Inside this Episode, You'll Discover: The Militar...

Finding the Balance: Creating "Clarity and Doubt" with Your Sales Questions 03.06.2026

Scott and Mike tackle a fundamental hurdle in sales: Why do reps need to ask questions? Scott initially challenges the process, suggesting a rep could just hand a prospect a list of answers. But Mike explains how genuinely curious questions can guide customers polite to their own conclusions—helping them see potential "gaps" in their current business that might be keeping them from their ideal sit...

The Golden Formula: What Business Can Learn from a Pro Athlete’s Attitude & Effort 27.05.2026

Unlocking Peak Performance: Zack Lutz on Failure, Fundamentals, and the Road to the MLB What does it take to make it to the pinnacle of professional baseball, and more importantly, how do you sustain success once you arrive? On this week's high-octane episode of The Selling Podcast , we’re pulling back the curtain on the world of elite sports with professional baseball player and performance coach...

Four-Letter CRM? Turn the Dreaded Tool into your Secret Sales Weapon with CRM Whisperer Jason Kramer 20.05.2026

Visit Jason here at AfterTheLead.com In this episode of The Selling Podcast , hosts Scott and Mike dive into the often-dreaded world of Customer Relationship Management (CRM) systems. They welcome Jason Kramer , founder and CEO of Cultivize and self-proclaimed "CRM Whisperer," to discuss why CRMs are often despised by sales teams and how to transform them from an administrative burden into a power...

Say No and Still Get Invited Back 13.05.2026

Have you ever turned down an invitation from a customer or colleague, only to realize later that they stopped asking you to events altogether? In this episode of The Selling Podcast , hosts Scott and Mike tackle the difficult art of saying "no" without burning bridges. Using a simple, four-step formula, they discuss how to decline requests and invitations confidently while ensuring you remain on t...

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