The Sell Like A Leader Podcast

David Kreiger sits down with Justin Michael, creator of the Justin Michael Method and author of over 10 books, to explore why doing the opposite of what feels natural is the real key to winning in outbound. His central premise is simple and uncomfortable: whatever thousands of sellers are doing right now is probably the wrong move.  In this episode, he breaks down: Why permission-based openers mak...

David Kreiger sits down with Lynn Hidy, Founder of Up Your Telesales, to explore the most common mistakes inside sales leaders make and what it actually takes to build a team that performs consistently over time. Lynn spent over two decades on the inside sales floor and made the unconventional choice to step back from management and stay a seller. That decision gave her a rare, ground-level view o...

David Kreiger sits down with Tom Stearns and Peter Cleary for a rare two-guest episode inspired by their newly released book, Graphic Sales: How to Build a Prospecting Playbook for Sales Leaders. Together, they turned decades of real client work and hard-learned lessons into a sales book unlike any other. In this episode, they cover: Why most sales leaders are misdiagnosing their biggest problem W...

David Kreiger sits down with Jason Mironov of TA Associates to unpack how growth-focused investors evaluate sales organizations. With over a decade of experience leading investments in tech-enabled services, Jason brings a rare "outside-in" lens to what revenue leaders must do to build an investment-ready business. In this episode, he breaks down: Why gross vs. net retention tells the real story o...

David Kreiger sits down with Aaron Ross, author of the bestselling Predictable Revenue , to revisit the principles that reshaped how the SaaS world thinks about sales, and examine what those principles mean in today's high-noise environment. Aaron brings two decades of perspective on outbound, specialization, and pipeline building, and he challenges revenue leaders to stop chasing the playbook and...

David Kreiger sits down with Caryn Kopp, Chief Door Opener at Kopp Consulting, to explore why today's prospecting landscape is stacked against sellers, and what sales leaders need to do differently to break through. Caryn brings a human-first philosophy to prospecting built on 27 years of opening C-suite doors, and she challenges some of the most common assumptions. In this episode, she breaks dow...

David Kreiger sits down with Chris Bondarenko, Chief Revenue Officer at 360 Learning, to explore what it really takes to build and scale high-performing revenue teams in today's rapidly evolving sales environment. Chris brings a people-first approach to sales leadership that emphasizes the strategic importance of hiring the right personas, developing talent through continuous learning, and underst...

David Krieger sits down with Justin Shriber, CEO and co-founder of Terret, to explore the dividing line between sales organizations that thrive with AI and those that don't. With three decades of leading teams through major technology transformations at Oracle, LinkedIn, and high-growth startups, Justin has a front-row seat to how AI is reshaping sales. In this episode, Justin breaks down: Which s...

David Kreiger sits down with Thomas R. Leidigh, CEO and founder of Infinity, to unpack one of the most overlooked growth levers in sales: the buyer data hiding in your existing customer base. After 30 years of building high-performing inside sales teams, Tom has seen the same pattern repeat itself—companies chase new logos while leaving millions in untapped revenue sitting inside their own account...

David Kreiger sits down with Lee Salz, bestselling author of 7 business books and ranked #6 in the world on Global Gurus' Top 30 Sales Thought Leaders for 2025. In this episode, David and Lee challenge the traditional discovery meeting approach that most salespeople rely on. Here are the questions they tackle: Why do traditional discovery meetings fail? How can salespeople provide value in first m...

David Kreiger chats with John Barrows, the founder and lead trainer of JBarrows Consulting, working with teams at Salesforce, LinkedIn, Google, and more. He's the author of I Want to Be in Sales When I Grow Up!. In this episode, David and John tackle the anxiety many parents and sales leaders feel about the future of work. Here are the questions they try to answer during their conversation: What s...

David Kreiger chats with Jake Dunlap, CEO of Skaled and author of "The Innovative Seller." Jake brings 12 years of experience helping CEOs, CROs, and CMOs transform their businesses with AI-driven revenue strategies. In this episode, we dive into: Outdated sales methodologies: The Challenger Sales, Predictable Revenue, MEDDIC, and BANT.  The four C's framework: Commitment to technology and AI prof...

David Kreiger chats with Frank Sondors, the co-founder and CEO of Salesforge. He helps B2B companies generate more sales pipeline and reduce costs by blending humans and AI agents. He scaled to $3M ARR in 12 months and is looking to get to $10M ARR next. In this episode, we dive into: AI agents and human SDRs: Sales integration, blending human and AI, market testing with AI, pipeline efficiency, g...

David Kreiger chats with Roee Hartuv, who heads the Revenue Architecture practice at Winning by Design. He's a B2B startup executive with more than 20 years of experience working at high-growth SaaS companies. In this episode, we dive into: AI integration in sales: Technology landscape, AI's emerging role, changing buyer-seller dynamics, AI in customer interaction, future sales funnel impacts, hum...

David Kreiger chats with Jessica Klek, the CRO at User Interviews. For +20 years, Jess Klek has worked and led teams in B2B SAAS organizations like LinkedIn, SalesLoft, and 6sense. She has also been a fierce advocate for women in technology often speaking on panels, and was voted the Best Female Executive in tech by Women In Sales America. In this episode, we dive into: Building high-performing sa...

David Kreiger chats with Valerie Schlitt, the Founder of VSA Prospecting which she launched in 2001. She has recently sold VSA and entered a new life stage, managing the one customer service client she retained. In this episode, we dive into: Collaborating with competitors: Competitors becoming mentors and thought leaders for each other, the concept of "frienemies," shared learning, building relat...

David Kreiger chats with Mitchell Kasprzyk, the VP of Sales at Compyl. He has driven growth across SaaS startups and enterprise organizations by shifting from traditional selling to a consultative approach that helps buyers make meaningful progress. In this episode, we dive into: Transitioning to management role: Mentorship and learning from thought leaders, focusing on team development, developme...

David Kreiger chats with Maxwell Nee, the CRO of Scoreapp, a Quiz Marketing Platform with 7,000 paying clients. He's also a multi-award winning entrepreneur, bodybuilder & dancer and has been featured in TV, Radio, Forbes, Singapore's The Business Times & The Australian Business Review. In this episode, we dive into:  Innovation and trust in sale teams : focusing on picking mature impactful ideas...

David Kreiger chats with Rich DeGuzman, an experienced revenue-focused GTM executive and VP at Vensure Employer Solutions, where he leads national HCM West strategy. Rich's expertise in GTM strategy, M&A, and B2B partnerships has earned him consistent recognition, including Chairman's Club and Board of Directors distinctions. In this episode, we dive into:    Leadership Coaching and Training in Sa...

David Kreiger chats with Mike Kavanagh, VP of Commercial Sales N. America for OneTrust, a leader in data privacy and consent management. He has been in B2B sales for 16+ years, and transitioned into sales management about 10 years ago. During that time, he led Enterprise sales teams, partner teams, and cross functional teams including marketing, customer success, and operations. In this episode, w...

David Kreiger chats with Danny Wasserman, a former restaurateur turned Enterprise SaaS seller and currently a leader at Databricks. He has researched, architected, and delivered sales enablement content that globally serves SMB, Commercial, Enterprise, Partner, and Customer Success teams. Whether in front of the room facilitating, in the studio hosting a podcast, or in the back office ghostwriting...

David Kreiger chats with Erin Dues, a seasoned sales leader with 13+ years of experience in technology and SaaS, incl. 9 years specializing in HR tech. As VP of Sales for Assessment and Succession within Korn Ferry's Digital business unit, Erin is focused on expanding Korn Ferry's talent technology solutions to a broader market. She has built high-performing sales teams at WorkTango, Asana, Linked...

David Kreiger chats with Bob Spina, who is developing a Sales Advisory practice and has just departed from ON24, where he led Enterprise Sales. Previously, Bob led the Strategic sales team to record growth at Gong. He has a proven track record of unlocking seller performance and building high-performing teams across various organizations, from startups to mid-sized firms, and even a half-billion-d...

David Kreiger chats with Michael Maximoff, the owner of Belkins, a top-ranked B2B Lead Generation Agency. Michael specializes in creating budget-smart strategies that deliver impactful growth solutions for clients and is also the driving force behind the newsletter "From Zero to Agency Hero" and the voice of the popular Growth Podcast. In this episode, we dive into:  Cold Email Playbooks for Sales...

In this episode, David Kreiger chats with Terence Lee, Protecht's VP of Risk for North America. His deep understanding of the market has been key to rapidly facilitating Protecht's growth across NA. Before Protecht, he held sales leadership roles at companies like Origami Risk and SAI Global, where he helped build successful sales departments. In this episode, we dive into: Market entry to expansi...