Grace Cacho & Alex Taylor

The Say Less Podcast

Business EN ↓ 42 episodes

A podcast for creative women building businesses in real life. Hosted by Grace and Alex, wedding photographers and creative entrepreneurs, this show lives at the intersection of sustainability and strategy. Some weeks we are talking editing workflows, client contracts, pricing as a beginner, associate shooting, timelines, systems, and how to actually run a creative business. Other weeks we are unpacking burnout, ambition, motherhood, identity shifts, and what happens when the business you prayed for starts asking more of you than you expected. We love the technical side. We love the heart side...

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Author

Grace Cacho & Alex Taylor

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Business

Latest episode

Oct 9, 2026

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Episodes

042 - Full-Time Entrepreneurs. Full-Time Parents. Can We Do Both? | Ft. Andrew Cacho 09.10.2026

What happens when you're both full-time entrepreneurs AND full-time parents? This week on Say Less Creative, Grace is joined by her husband, Andrew, to talk about what life looks like running a creative business together while raising two little kids. After nearly eight years of a traditional 9–5 work arrangement, they took a leap of faith and started building Arisa Haus together. Now, their...

041 - The Wild Wild West of Wedding Photography Pricing 02.10.2026

Alex and Grace unpack why wedding photography pricing feels chaotic right now, from massive swings in rates to the pressure of looking “the same” online. They focus on the gap between what couples expect, what photographers deliver, and how transparency on both sides could reduce sticker shock and bad-fit bookings. Send us burning questions, topic ideas, and things you’re loving about the podcast!...

040 - She Shot Her First 20 Weddings in Her First 10 Months of Photography ft. Caitlyn Marshall 25.09.2026

Grace and Alex sit down with Caitlyn Marshall to talk about what’s changing in wedding photography right now and what newer photographers need to hear.  Caitlyn shares how she shot 20 weddings in her first 10 months of photography, along with lessons about building a sustainable business, avoiding burnout, and choosing a workload that supports the kind of creative life you want. The conversation c...

039 - Living Your Life as a Creative Entrepreneur: Guilt, Business Boundaries, and Finding Balance 18.09.2026

Alex and Grace talk candidly about what it actually feels like to run a creative business while also living a full family life. They unpack the tension between showing up for clients and showing up for yourself, plus the guilt that can come from doing either one too much or too little. In this episode, they explore the day-to-day reality of being a working mom, why creative entrepreneurs often fee...

038 - For the Partner Who Supports the Dream ft. Travis Taylor 11.09.2026

This episode is a candid conversation between Alex and hubby Travis about what it’s really like when the 9-5 marries the creative business. Alex explains the emotional and logistical realities of creative entrepreneurship, while Travis offers the perspective of a spouse with a structured corporate job. It’s a practical, supportive discussion about communication, sacrifice, and why support people m...

037 - From First Inquiry to Sealing the Deal: Our Wedding Booking Processes 04.09.2026

Grace and Alex break down how they handle inquiries, consultations, and follow-up in a way that fits real client behavior, especially for today’s younger, mobile-first brides. They compare lead sources, talk through what to say on discovery calls, and share how they balance professionalism with flexibility. Send us burning questions, topic ideas, and things you’re loving about the podcast! Connect...

036 - Girl Boss Without Burnout 28.08.2026

Grace and Alex unpack the tension between ambition and rest for small business owners, especially creative entrepreneurs and moms. They talk candidly about hustle culture, burnout, and what it looks like to keep working hard without letting work take over your body, brain, or family life.  In this episode, Grace and Alex reflect on how the rise of girl boss culture encouraged a lot of women to lau...

035 - Has Social Media Become the New Complaint Department? 21.08.2026

Grace and Alex are diving DEEP to discuss the pressure that comes with public reviews and viral criticism, especially for small business owners and creative entrepreneurs. They unpack how one negative post can outweigh years of strong work, why social media has become a complaint department, and how to respond professionally when feedback turns public. Alex also shares a personal story about recei...

034 - Freefall Business Building, Choosing Yourself, and Creating Legacy Work ft. Rachel Meagan 14.08.2026

Today, Rachel walks us through the real cost of building a creative business without a traditional job, what burnout actually looked like, and how systems, boundaries, and identity changed everything. Rachel also shares the next chapter of her work, moving from weddings into legacy-focused brand and story-driven creative direction. In this episode, Rachel opens up about the years she spent working...

033 - 17 Years in Photography: Lessons on Growth, Brand-Longevity, and Balance ft. Katelyn James 07.08.2026

Photography Educator and Entrepreneur Katelyn James sits down with Alex & Grace to talk about Living Authentically, Building Communities, and Staying Relevant. Discover how Katelyn James has stayed true to her passion while balancing motherhood, business growth, and evolving social media landscapes over nearly 2 decades in this industry. This episode offers practical advice, heartfelt stories,...

032 - Our Not So Serious Q&A 31.07.2026

In this episode, Grace and Alex share candid, humorous, and heartfelt responses to listener questions about photography, business, motherhood, and life's unexpected lessons. No planning. No script. Just real stories and practical insights born from their journeys as moms and entrepreneurs. Key Topics Covered: The importance of saying no in business and recognizing personal limits How motherho...

031 - Editing Workflows: What we do (and what we want to change) 24.07.2026

Alex and Grace dive into the practical aspects of photography editing workflows, focusing on how to save time, stay organized, and leverage AI tools for editing. Whether you're just starting out or have been in the business for years, these insights will help you work smarter, not harder. Resources & Links: Narrative Select + Edit Send us burning questions, topic ideas, and things you’re...

030 - Photographer ICKS... 17.07.2026

Ever feel overwhelmed by the wedding industry’s trends, client expectations, or just the little things that make you go "ick"? Join Alex and Grace as they peel back the curtain on the industry, sharing their personal pet peeves, honest thoughts, and insights into navigating the chaos with humor, depth, and authenticity. This episode is a mix of silly candidness and deep guiding principle...

029 - How to Stand Out in Your Industry When Everyone Looks the Same 10.07.2026

We are exploring how creative entrepreneurs can break free from industry sameness by leaning into what makes them uniquely them. They share practical tips to cultivate authenticity, avoid copying trends, and harness your personality to truly stand out.  In this episode: The dangers of industry sameness and the trend towards copying How starting out can lead to unintentional replication and loss of...

028 - Finding Your Perfect Fit: Why Choosing the Right Vendor Matters 02.07.2026

In this episode, hosts Alex and Grace dive into the nuanced world of vendor-client relationships, emphasizing how crucial alignment in personality, style, and expectations is for creating a seamless and joyful wedding or creative experience. They explore how transparency, authenticity, and understanding your personal style can lead to better matches, happier clients, and more fulfilling work. Whet...

027 - Business State of the Union: We're making our biggest shifts yet as entrepreneurs, and we're bringing you along for the ride. 26.06.2026

Alex and Grace share a raw, real-time check-in on their entrepreneurial journeys amidst personal and professional transitions. If you've ever felt overwhelmed by the constant changes and growth in your business and life, this episode is your perfect companion to embrace the messy middle with hope and authenticity. In this episode: The balance of scaling up and scaling down, depending on life...

026 - From Competition to Celebration: Navigating FOMO as an entrepreneur 19.06.2026

Join Alex and Grace as they dive into the art of celebrating success, fostering community, and overcoming the shadows of jealousy and FOMO in entrepreneurship. This episode is a heartfelt reminder that being genuinely supportive and celebrating others can transform your own journey. In this episode: How comparing social media highlight reels fuels jealousy and FOMO The importance of intentional co...

025 - Mastering the Wedding Timeline: Tips from Industry Vets 12.06.2026

In this episode, Alex and Grace share their combined 16 years of wedding industry experience to unpack the often-overlooked importance of crafting a solid timeline. They emphasize how understanding your priorities, venue specifics, and season influences can make or break your perfect wedding day. Whether you're a bride, vendor, or wedding planner, their insights will help you craft a day that...

024 - The Effects of Social Media on Motherhood & Business... Are we doing enough? 05.06.2026

Alex and Grace get real about their complicated relationships with social media — as moms, as business owners, and as creatives trying to protect their mental health in a world that never stops scrolling. This one has been heavy on Alex's heart, and it shows. From postpartum anxiety and rage-bait influencers to comparison culture and the art of actually logging off, this episode is part thera...

023 - How Content Creators are reshaping weddings with raw, real, unfiltered content ft. Katie from The Veil Club 29.05.2026

In this episode, hosts Alex and Grace sit down with Katie Bryant, the visionary behind The Veil Club, to explore her inspiring journey from working in occupational therapy to becoming a full-time content creator in the wedding industry. Whether you're a budding creator or a seasoned vendor, Katie's story offers valuable insights on embracing unexpected paths and building a personalized b...

022 - [SERIES] First Year Files: Growth Readiness... Systemizing before Scaling and Knowing When it's Time to Grow 22.05.2026

Join Alex and Grace as they wrap up their first year series with a deep dive into growth readiness What it really takes to scale and how to recognize when you're ready to level up. This episode offers practical insights, personal stories, and a little humor to help you navigate the next phase of your entrepreneurial journey. In this episode: The importance of balancing emotional and logistica...

020 - [SERIES] First Year Files: Time Management 15.05.2026

Forget five-step formulas — this episode dives deep into the realities of managing time as a busy creative entrepreneur and parent. Alex and Grace share candid insights into navigating life’s unpredictable seasons, setting boundaries, and prioritizing self-care without guilt. If you're feeling overwhelmed by your to-do list or unsure how to adapt with life's constant changes, this episod...

021 - Motherhood & Content Creation (and all the things that come with it...) with Shelby Tuffentsamer 15.05.2026

The Rise of Content Creators in Weddings with Shelby Tuffentsamer In this lively episode hosted by just Alex for this one, Shelby Tuffentsamer joins us to debunk myths and share the truth about content creation in the wedding industry. Whether you're a bride, a vendor, or simply curious about the digital age’s impact on weddings, this conversation offers fresh insights into how content creato...

017 - Mother's Day Episode: Grace & Mama Mel 08.05.2026

An Entrepreneur for Life: Lessons from Mama Mel In this heartfelt episode, Grace sits down with her incredible mom, Melanie Medina, affectionately known as Mama Mel, to discuss her expansive entrepreneurial journey, the importance of staying humble and flexible, and the wisdom behind doing "what's gogical" — not just what makes sense logically. Whether you're a seasoned busines...

018 - Mothers Day Episode: Alex & Sandy 08.05.2026

Celebrating Motherhood & Hard Work with Sandy: Lessons on Resilience, Balance, and Self-Care In this heartfelt special episode, Alex sits down with her mom Sandy — a true embodiment of resilience and dedication — to explore what motherhood has taught her across decades of balancing a full-time career, raising kids, and building a life of purpose. Sandy’s stories are raw, inspiring, and filled...

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