The Sacred Art of Leadership

Sam Clark: Leadership Forged in Crisis When Sam Clark moved to Sri Lanka in 2004 to start a travel company, he didn't expect to spend his first year running a disaster relief operation instead. The Boxing Day tsunami hit weeks after he arrived — and what followed became the unlikely training ground for everything he knows about leadership. In this conversation, Sam takes us inside the moments that...

Athene Parker walks into this conversation having had three hours sleep. She's been running on empty for a long while now and she tells you that in the first five minutes, without apology or performance. What follows is one of the most honest conversations we've had on this podcast. Athene is a 27-year advertising veteran, a CTI-trained coach, and the founder of the emPOWER Breakfast — a gathering...

There is a comfortable story a lot of organisations tell themselves about people-first leadership. That if you care enough, listen enough, create the right culture, the results will follow. Kate Thrumble believes that story is only half true. And the half that's missing is where most leaders quietly fail. Kate has spent 20 years in the rooms where the real work happens, redundancies, restructures,...

Barny Wright co-founded No.8 London and is seven and a half years sober. In this episode he talks about what sobriety actually revealed, what it cost him to get there and so much more about founding and operating a business from the heart. Episode Summary Barny has built award-winning businesses, run marathons, and made bold creative bets for over two decades. He's also spent the last 2,682 Days s...

Jane Gomez has spent 25 years in the room where it actually happens. Not on the stage — in the circle. Chairing forums, steadying founders, asking the question nobody else thought to ask. In this conversation, Jane brings something rare: a view of leadership from the inside out. Why the best leaders are often the ones who say "I don't know" — and mean it. And what happens when an entrepreneur won'...

Before interviewing their first guests, Dip & Del reflect on the first few episodes and answer some audience questions, including "how do you spot a poor leader", "what do you do if you're promoted before you are ready", and "what's one thing that you've never spoken about that made you the leader you are today?". They also delve into the sensitive topics of mental health in leadership, impost...

Dip & Del discussing what the show is all about.

In this next episode, it’s Dip’s turn to put his co-host Derek Moore in the ‘hot seat’. He explores the journey behind the business: the humble beginnings, the unexpected leadership, and why Del has come to believe that the world doesn't just need better creative work, it needs a fundamentally different kind of leader. One who leads from awareness, not authority.  Del didn't set out to run a compa...

The Sacred Art of Leadership is a podcast for people who carry responsibility and are quietly questioning what it really means.  Hosted by executive coach, Dipak Davé and founder CEO, Derek Moore, each episode is an honest, unhurried conversation exploring leadership as a human experience, beyond titles, performance, and the noise of expectation. 

In this episode, Del turns the mic on co-host Dip, who spent over 30 years moving through investment banking, management consulting, fashion retail, and start-ups before realising the most important work was happening not in the boardroom, but inside himself. This is the conversation behind the podcast: who Dip is, what shaped him, and why he believes that leadership isn’t an act of doing, it's a...