Where digital assets meet capital markets. Hosted by Robbie & Andy

The Rollup

Where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world. Website: https://therollup.co/

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Where digital assets meet capital markets. Hosted by Robbie & Andy

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Jul 10, 2026

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Episodes

Max Resnick on Ethereum's Roadmap, Economics, and Alignment Taxes 30.11.2024

For today's episode, we’re diving into one of the most controversial conversations around Ethereum’s future—the decisions required to create a truly thriving onchain ecosystem. Joined by Max Resnick, we raised key questions about the future of rollups, appchains, and Ethereum’s economic structure. Are rollups helping Ethereum grow, or are they parasitic? Should apps like Uniswap stay on Ethereum L...

The Biggest Shift In Crypto Investing Since ICOs with Anil Lulla & Fabrizio Giabardo 28.11.2024

For today's episode, a thanksgiving day special, we are breaking down an evolving model in the crypto space that looks beyond traditional VC funding. Legion, a platform built from the ground up to address issues with token launches, is reshaping how communities and projects interact with each other. We are teaming up with Legion to bring early stage opportunities to our community of amazing listen...

Tarun Chitra and Jon Charbonneau on Solana vs. Ethereum Valuation Outlook 27.11.2024

For today's episode, we were joined by Tarun & Jon to take a closer look at one of the most compelling debates in crypto: The valuation, 'moneyness', collateral asset viability, and onchain usage of ETH vs. SOL. Is there a real chance that Solana could flip Ethereum in the next several years? Ethereum, with its ETF advantage and rollup-centric focus, is standing strong but may face hurdles in...

Infinex's Vampire Attack on CEXs with Kain Warwick and Jed Watson 26.11.2024

Today, we're exploring a project that has its sights set on making onchain DeFi just as approachable as traditional exchanges and brokerages. Infinex, led by Kain and Jed, brings a fresh take to the DeFi landscape by prioritizing user experience and easing the transition for those who are familiar with centralized platforms like Binance but hesitant to fully dive into DeFi due to the UX complexiti...

Anthony Sassano on The Past, Present, And Future of Ethereum 22.11.2024

Today, we’re diving into the story of Ethereum—its past, its present, and its ambitious path forward with a core leader of the community, and founder of The Daily Gwei, Anthony Sassano. Ethereum’s evolution is a tale of resilience and innovation. From surviving brutal bear markets to leading the charge with decentralized applications and L2 solutions, this ecosystem has seen it all. During the rel...

Andre Cronje on DeFi, Sonic Network, and His New Apps 20.11.2024

Welcome to a blast from the past. Imagine this: You're on your laptop in summer 2020, when you see a message from a friend "new yield farm just opened called Yearn, you can only farm it for one week with DAI." You ape in. The rest is history, and DeFi was (more or less) born. That was the early stages of Andre's journey into DeFi. For his latest reappearance, we will take you on a deep dive into h...

Is Beam Chain Good For Ethereum? With Justin Drake 19.11.2024

Today, we’re unpacking Beam Chain, a proposal by Justin Drake that’s sparked wide-ranging discussions in the Ethereum community. Andy and Robbie sat down with Justin in Bangkok to discuss this in person, just one day after his presentation. Beam chain aims to accelerate Ethereum’s roadmap by introducing a massive hard fork specifically aimed at the consensus layer. Whether you’ve heard about the b...

Devcon Soundbites: Espresso Mainnet Exclusive with Ellie Davidson 13.11.2024

In this conversation, Ellie discusses the launch of Espresso on Mainnet, focusing on the significance of the Global Confirmation Layer for decentralized sequencing and interoperability among rollups. The discussion covers the benefits of fast and safe bridging, the potential for cross-rollup transactions, and the positive reception from the community. Ellie emphasizes the importance of composabili...

Devcon Soundbites: How EtherFi Plans To Generate $250M+ In Revenue in 2025 13.11.2024

In this conversation, Mike from EtherFi discusses the vision and differentiation of EtherFi as a DeFi protocol, its product suite, business model, and strategies for onboarding new users. He emphasizes the importance of building user-friendly products that allow individuals to manage their finances without traditional banks, while also addressing the tokenomics and community engagement aspects of...

Memecoins, Macro, And AI with Crypto Billionaire Arthur Hayes & Murad Mahmudov 08.11.2024

Memecoins are absolutely dominating mindshare in today's crypto economy. While they might be easy to dismiss as passing fads, there appears to be something bigger happening here which we wanted to explore. So, we sat down with Arthur Hayes and Murad Mahmudov to discuss the unique structure of memecoins as a new asset class designed for a generation deeply immersed in social media and digital inter...

How Camp Is Bridging The Gap With Social Data 06.11.2024

We're live again from the studio from Singapore for EigenLayer Unlocked, this time for episode 21 with Nirav Murthy about Camp Network. Today’s piece dives into a unique approach to building lasting connections in Web3, using pre-exisiting data from prominent social media platforms. With Camp, we’re looking at a shift from single-transaction incentives to real, ongoing rewards that invite users to...

What Is The Next Phase of Onchain Crypto? With Predicate 04.11.2024

Welcome to episode 20 of EigenLayer Unlocked. In today's video, we dive into the mechanics behind Predicate, led by Nikhil Raghuveera, and their goal to streamline transaction prerequisites across crypto. This idea of “transaction prerequisites” may sound a bit like a mouthful, but the way we are thinking about it is bringing the crypto onchain UX far closer to that of the internet. Predicate is o...

Building Ethereum's Connectivity Hub with Polymer Labs 03.11.2024

We're live again from the studio from Singapore for EigenLayer Unlocked, this time for episode 19 with Peter Kim. For this episode, we are tackling the fragmentation problem head on with the story of Polymer and their north star of building an onchain experience where different execution environments communicate securely, transparently, and in a way users don’t even need to think about. As you kno...

How Abstract Plans to Dominate Consumer Crypto 02.11.2024

Welcome back to the live studio podcasts from Singapore for EigenLayer Unlocked, this time for a conversation with Luca from Abstract with a focus on building the next era of consumer-friendly blockchain experiences. As you know, we have been quite bullish on chains which are usecase-specific with a target market and segment of focus. Abstract is designed to prioritize user experience, aiming to b...

What is The Interop Endgame? With Hyperlane 01.11.2024

Welcome to episode 16 of EigenLayer Unlocked, for a further look into the interoperability endgame. In today's video, we are focused on the technical design of Hyperlane's open framework for interoperability. Joined by Jon Kol, we touched on why we believe that modular, horizontal scaling is key for the future of the crypto space and building towards that future is where Hyperlane is headed. Recen...

Why ZK Will Power Crypto's Next Killer Apps with Lagrange 31.10.2024

Welcome to episode 16 of EigenLayer Unlocked. We’ve got a lot to cover, and we’re excited to share some insights from our recent technical talk focused around ZK coprocessors with Ismael from Lagrange. The “internet of proving” is a network where ZK proofs are the centerpiece of all blockchain interactions onchain. We discussed the rise of proof markets onchain, why Lagrange is building their own...

How Inco Is Bringing Privacy Onchain using FHE 30.10.2024

Welcome back to Eigenlayer Unlocked for episode 15. Today, we’re exploring a concept that has intrigued cryptographers for decades but is now edging closer to practical use onchain — Fully Homomorphic Encryption, or FHE. We had the pleasure of speaking with Remi Gai from Inco, who walked us through how FHE is making its mark in crypto. Just recently, they announced a partnership with Circle as wel...

Why Crypto Is Following A Similar Path As Cloud Computing with Polymer 29.10.2024

Welcome to episode 14 of EigenLayer Unlocked, for a deeper dive into the interop landscape of crypto with a tight parallel to the internet experience. Our focus today is on Polymer Labs, for a technical presentation with Bo Du. Polymer is dedicated to making onchain interop as smooth as possible by acting as the "messaging queue" that acts as an interop layer for various rollups. By leveraging Eig...

How To Think About Restaking Economics with Tarun Chitra 28.10.2024

Welcome to episode 13 of EigenLayer Unlocked, for a very insightful conversation about building the correct mental model for restaking and crypto-economic security. We had the opportunity to sit down with Tarun Chitra from Gauntlet, who brought mental models, analogies, and key information to the table about how restaking mechanisms work, what makes EigenLayer's economics operate, and why incentiv...

Why Movement Is Going All in On MoveVM 27.10.2024

gmove. Welcome to back to another studio podcast from Singapore for EigenLayer Unlocked! Today's pod is with Rushi Manche, co-founder of Movement Labs. We discussed the moveVM, Rushi's community building strategy and the testnet. We also explored how regions like Southeast Asia and LATAM are leading the way in everyday crypto adoption, while the USA is trying to get its footing with regulation. On...

It’s Time For Crypto To Ditch AWS with Versatus 26.10.2024

Welcome to back to the live studio podcasts from Singapore for EigenLayer Unlocked In todays episode, we're diving into an engaging conversation where we explore the future of onchain compute. From decentralized cloud solutions to efficient, globally distributed systems, Versatus aims to bring the resilience and security of blockchain to cloud services. We had the chance to explore their approach...

Is Shared Security A Myth? With Toghrul Maharramov 25.10.2024

Welcome to episode 10 of EigenLayer Unlocked, for a much more broad overview of what shared security really is, how to think about the concept of shared security, and where EigenLayer fits in. Following up on his earlier thoughts around modularity being a meme, we decided to bring Toghrul on to discuss his mental model for shared security and restaking. In the crypto world, shared security is ofte...

Why Fast Finality Can Enhance Cross-Rollup Transactions With Nuffle 24.10.2024

Welcome to episode 9 of EigenLayer Unlocked, with a focus on utilizing a fast finality layer to improve cross-rollup interop and avoid the long finality delays on Ethereum L1. Today, we’re taking a closer look at Nuffle Labs’ fast finality layer, NFFL, an EigenLayer AVS that addresses state fragmentation, user experience issues, and security concerns amongst L2s. Nuffle Labs, led by founders Altan...

Everything You Need To Launch An AVS With Othentic 23.10.2024

Welcome to episode 8 of EigenLayer Unlocked, for a deep dive into the core infrastructure you need to launch an AVS. Othentic’s journey started with building their own AVS, and along the way, they faced every complexity imaginable. So, they created the Othentic Stack, making it easier for builders to get their AVSs off the ground without having to reinvent the wheel. So, what exactly is an AVS? Th...

How Espresso Aims To Solve The L2 Fragmentation Problem 22.10.2024

Welcome to Episode 7 of EigenLayer Unlocked, where we’re exploring the concept of cross-chain composability -- and in particular, the fragmentation of the modular ecosystem. This is the key to unlocking the full vision of Ethereum's rollup-centric roadmap facilitating coordination between different chains, and Espresso is at the forefront of making it happen. Robbie had a very technical conversati...

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