Colin Jeffries & Paul Frodge
The Rethink Marketing Podcast
Are you drowning in the sheer volume of contradicting marketing and sales speak? Do you find yourself perplexed and overwhelmed by recommendations from "marketing & sales gurus" ? How can the thought processes of marketing and sales be based on the one size fits all mentality? They can't be! Rethinking conventional wisdom is always good practice but rethinking conventional marketing and sales wisdom is necessity. If you aren’t sure how to ignore the bad and test the good, then welcome to the Rethink Marketing Podcast. The Rethink Marketing Podcast is a quick hitting punchy conversation focused...
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Jul 22, 2025
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Episodes
When Should Marketers Stop Testing? 12.03.2024 18:47
One this episode of the Rethink Marketing Podcast, Colin Jeffries and Paul Frodge opine on finding the right balance between testing and optimization in marketing and advertising. They explore whether there is a point where testing becomes excessive and whether or not perfection is actually attainable. How important is intentionality in testing? How should today's marketers think about the opportu...
Shhh... Should We Tell or Not? 05.03.2024 20:17
One this episode of the Rethink Marketing Podcast, Colin Jeffries and Paul Frodge chat about the increasing pressure from platforms like Google and Meta to identify content made using gen-AI. The delineate between content made with AI and that made by AI, and discuss whether or not marketers should be help accountable for transparency when AI is used. No gen-AI was used in the making of this episo...
Staying Relevant and Weathering the Social Network Effect 28.02.2024 15:35
One this episode of the Rethink Marketing Podcast, Colin Jeffries and Paul Frodge converse about the social multiplier effect in marketing. As marketers get better and share their learnings, it seems that marketing continues to improve. Competition is increasing, forcing marketers to get better--and, thereby, increase the competition! It can be a challenge to keep up with the rapidly evolving mark...
Anchoring Influence in Empathy | Dr. Carolyn Goerner 23.02.2024 49:23
One this episode of the Rethink Marketing Podcast, Colin Jeffries is joined by Dr. Carolyn Goerner, a negotiation, power, and imposter syndrome expert, as well as a clinical professor of management at the Kelley School of Business. She shares insights on power, vulnerability, empathy, negotiation, and influence. From understanding the underlying motivations and interests to working together agains...
They Paid $7 million for 30 Seconds of Airtime! 13.02.2024 18:35
One this episode of the Rethink Marketing Podcast, Colin Jeffries and Paul Frodge chat about the winner's and losers from the 2024 lineup of the year's most expensive commercials! The conversation explores the role of on-screen and off-screen talent in Super Bowl commercials, the power of social media shareability, self-deprecating humor in ads, nostalgia, the use of teasers and extended ads, and...
More Engaging Chatbots and Hosting Better Events | Kris Olivo 06.02.2024 49:08
One this episode of the Rethink Marketing Podcast, Colin Jeffries and Paul Frodge are joined by co-founder of Helpful Human Franchising and Almost Magical Marketing, Kris Olivo. Kris explains the importance of systems and processes to create successful grand openings and events, including the development of compelling offers and a multi-channel approach. Additionally, Kris explores the role of cha...
Asking for Less Word of Mouth 30.01.2024 18:34
One this episode of the Rethink Marketing Podcast, Colin Jeffries and Paul Frodge discuss the importance of optimizing word of mouth as a channel without becoming over-reliant on it. Having customers help you grow your business has tremendous benefits--and some dangerous drawbacks! They emphasize the need to diversify marketing efforts and de-risk the business from too much word of mouth. The conv...
Eliminate the Chief Marketing Officer Position 23.01.2024 21:36
Summary On the last episode of season four of the Rethink Marketing Podcast, Colin Jeffries and Paul Frodge unpack the relatively recent trend of eliminating the Chief Marketing Officer (CMO) position. Many notable brands, including Walgreens, Etsy, Johnson & Johnson, UPS, and more have taken this step. This podcast episode explores whether removing the marketing executive is a long-term solution...
Marketing Predictions for 2024 16.01.2024 24:39
On the last episode of season four of the Rethink Marketing Podcast, Colin Jeffries and Paul Frodge pull out the crystal ball and speak to 2024 predictions! Will gen-AI really change the game within the next 12 months? How should brands differentiate if they aren't using AI? Is not using AI a cop out for marketing leaders who are intimidated by an ever-evolving landscape of new tech? How should we...
Should We Be Creating Customer Ecosystems? 09.01.2024 17:20
On the last episode of season four of the Rethink Marketing Podcast, Colin Jeffries and Paul Frodge wax eloquent about advice to follow the leaders by creating end-to-end ecosystems for their customers. This mentality improves customer loyalty, expands share of wallet, boosts margins, and has countless other benefits. But if it's all that and a bag of chips, why isn't every organization following...
Seasons Greetings from the Rethink Marketing Podcast 26.12.2023 1:45
This wraps up Season 4 of the Rethink Marketing Podcast! We are thrilled to kick off Season 5 on January 9, 2024! Until then, Merry Christmas, Happy New Year, and keep on rethinking those common assumptions! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
How to Manage the Diderot Effect 19.12.2023 19:19
On this episode of the Rethink Marketing Podcast, Colin Jeffries and Paul Frodge discuss the needs and wants behind marketing and sales software upgrades. If we switch project management tools, do we need a new Digital Asset Manager? How does a new CRM impact our email tool? When we upgrade one system, do we really need to upgrade another? What are the opportunity costs for staying put? The Rethin...
Try These Hacks for Webinar Success 12.12.2023 19:00
On this episode of the Rethink Marketing Podcast, Colin Jeffries and Paul Frodge share some heard earned tips on making webinars even more successful. Too many of us think that webinars are a chance to sell or talk about our products/services. Spoiler alert: They are not! There are some important actions we can take before, during, and after the virtual event to ensure the effort and investment pa...
All These Hands in the Marketing Cookie Jar 05.12.2023 21:46
On this episode of the Rethink Marketing Podcast, Colin Jeffries and Paul Frodge explore the benefits and drawbacks of having the executive team, finance, human resources, product, and other business units involved in making marketing decisions. This impacts crucial factors like advertising budget, sale pricing, marketing hires, growth goals, and beyond. When should marketing leaders heed the insi...
This is the Foundation of Machine Learning (and AI) for Marketers 28.11.2023 13:33
On this episode of the Rethink Marketing Podcast, Colin Jeffries and Paul Frodge wax eloquent about the upcoming machine learning era in marketing. While AI has already dramatically impacted content creation, many marketers have yet to see much change in data analytics. We stand on the precipice of a massive shift away from one-to-many and into one-to-one marketing, leveraging the power of AI and...
Are You Thinking About Reputation Management Wrong? 21.11.2023 21:09
On this episode of the Rethink Marketing Podcast, Colin Jeffries and Paul Frodge exchange blows about the true meaning of reputation management. Reputation includes the value proposition, differentiating claims, word of mouth, online ratings, customer experience, and more. So why do so many marketers equate “reputation management” with simply begging customers to leave reviews? Obviously, in today...
A New Perspective on Black Friday and Deep Discounts 14.11.2023 18:56
On this episode of the Rethink Marketing Podcast, Colin Jeffries and Paul Frodge rethink the traditional goals of Black Friday, Small Business Saturday, Cyber Monday, and the cadre of surrounding deep discounting days. How should we think about customer retention, customer experience, customer satisfaction, branding, and the myriad other aspects of marketing strategy? New customer acquisition thro...
Are These Certifications a Waste of Time? 07.11.2023 23:02
On this episode of the Rethink Marketing Podcast, Colin Jeffries welcomes agency owner and marketing thought leader Paul Frodge to the show! Together they try to answer this pressing question: are free or low cost certifications worth it for marketers? They are available for everything in a mar-tech-stack from SalesForce or Hubspot to Hootsuite or Sprout. There are more than 11 certifications just...
When Should Sales Fail Fast + Eric Reed Sendoff 24.10.2023 27:22
On this episode, Colin Jeffries and Eric Reed bust the myth of failing fast in sales. When do we rush to failure without giving success a chance? And when do we cling to a doomed relationship, process, or target too long? Instead of failing fast, what if we tried failing often? I’m addition to a great conversation, this is Eric Reed’s final episode on The Rethink Marketing Podcast, so be sure to c...
When Does Customer Journey Mapping Matter? 17.10.2023 22:06
Colin Jeffries and Eric Reed talk through 2024 planning and the importance of creating a journey map for your customers. What can you control and which factors are outside of your control? How can you prepare for small pivots and big navigational adjustments? Have confidence in your strategies. If you built the plan with purpose, you can stay the course in the face of adversity! The Rethink Market...
The Latest on Protecting Your AI Intellectual Property 10.10.2023 19:42
Colin Jeffries and Eric Reed talk through some of the recent developments in patent and copyright protection around artificial intelligence. What do marketing leaders need to know about using AI for their content? The laws are still being written, so marketers need to know how to earn and protect intellectual property protection for content created by and with artificial intelligence tools! The Re...
A New Take on SEO 26.09.2023 14:45
Colin Jeffries and Eric Reed explore the intersection of website design and on-page search engine optimization. Instead of handing a website off to an SEO team, shouldn't the designers be on the hook for SEO performance at some level? Or are the two houses best kpt separate? When does it make sense to sacrifice performance at the altar of beauty, and when is the opposite approach right? The Rethin...
Should Marketers be Channel Agnostic? 19.09.2023 14:10
Colin Jeffries and Eric Reed talk through the resurgence of channel agnosticism. On the one hand, marketers try to build funnels anywhere customers are active. On the other hand, marketers leverage channel native content to build funnels only on specific channels. Which one is right: should marketers strive to provide a great experience across all channels, or instead only focus resources on a lim...
Are There Disadvantages to Being Terminally Unique? 12.09.2023 17:27
Colin Jeffries and Eric Reed explore the advantages and disadvantages of being unique. But first, they wrestle with the question of whether or not brands and businesses can truly be unique. After all, when we are leveraging the same technologies, talents, and customers as other organizations, how much can be truly different? Where should marketers seek to be similar and where should we strive to b...
Social Media Workers Are Burning Out. Here Are Some Solutions. 06.09.2023 24:34
Colin Jeffries and Eric Reed discuss research from Sprout Social and Adweek about social media manager burnout. Are social media teams really overworked, underpaid, and unappreciated? How do we equip them to deal with the worst of people that comes out on social media. Should brands continue to hire entry-level employees or should these roles go to more experienced content marketers? Are the expec...
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