The Real Deal Landman Show

Recent episodes of the Real Deal Landman Show have emphasized the innovative technological landscape, including AI, data centers, and fractional investment opportunities in oil and gas assets. (If you enjoy geeky, tech discussions, be sure to check out past episodes.) To get the greatest effectiveness out of your AI initiatives, it’s important to have clean data. The StackDX platform is comprehens...

So many listeners of the Real Deal Landman Show work in the oil and gas industry, yet how many own assets themselves? The RDLS welcomes back Tim Pawul (previously on Episode 20) and introduces Chip Simmons and Adrian Macias of Tokenized Energy .  Recent episodes have explored many thoughts about artificial intelligence, data centers, and the rapidly approaching future of the landman profession. Th...

In case you needed more proof that Drew Hopkins is the main attraction on the Real Deal Landman Show, this episode introduces another fascinating aspect of his life: catfish noodling. Watch the full episode video and see a picture of the biggest monster (literally) that he has caught. We were pleased to have Jake Anderson of PV Case with us. Jake and his team built an incredible product for scouti...

Well more than a month after it’s over, this seems like the perfect time to share our NCAA March Madness predictions. Note that Dagen Boyd, Co-founder of Firm. App , called it perfectly. Drew Hopkins and Jerris Johnson hear Dagen's story and his experiences with evolving, innovative technology, particularly how AI can revolutionize owner relations and customer service in the oil and gas industry a...

This episode of The Real Deal Landman Show kicks off with Drew Hopkins talking about his experiences at MLB Spring Training. (He didn't make any of the teams.) It goes on to introduce Brendan O'Donnell of the Pittsburgh-based Houston Harbaugh law firm and feature a discussion on oil and gas law, data centers, and lease agreements. Brendan has the opportunity to provide legal representation for lan...

The Real Deal Landman Show has welcomed many interesting and influential people, but this one includes actual royalty. Dan Whitmarsh is the current appointed Secretary of the Commissioners of the Land Office of Oklahoma. Yet, somehow, he found time to give Drew Hopkins and Jerris Johnson an education on Oklahoma state land ownership, revenue generation for schools, and the office’s interaction wit...

Drew Hopkins, Jerris Johnson, and The Real Deal Landman Show returned to NAPE (North American Prospect Expo) with a stylish booth in the nether regions of the conference, but plenty of giveaways and goodies to bribe visitors into coming to see them. The conversations covered various topics in the energy industry, including personal experiences, stories, and memories, as well as the significance of...

On The Real Deal Landman Show, Drew Hopkins and Jerris Johnson are honored to host guests with their own podcasts and successful ventures. For the legendary industry leaders who share valuable insights and others' experiences, we like to give them a chance to tell their own stories. The latest episode is with Brent Broussard of Dudley Land Company and The Land Department podcast. Gems to be heard:...

In this episode of the Real Deal Landman Show , Drew Hopkins and Jerris Johnson converse with Shad Frazier , a popular energy executive. Shad shares his journey from a non-oil family in Colorado to becoming a prominent figure in the oil and gas sector. He discusses the importance of community, mentorship, and building effective teams. The conversation explores the role of technology, particularly...

In this episode, Ben Heinzelmann , CEO of Energy Domain , joins Drew Hopkins and Jerris Johnson to discuss the impacts of winter weather in areas not accustomed to it. Ben, a software expert in the oil and gas industry, shares his journey from field landman to technology executive. Additional talking points include the evolution of the oil and gas sector and the importance of embracing technology...

It’s the first episode of 2026 on the Real Deal Landman Show with hosts Drew Hopkins and Jerris Johnson sitting down in person with Alex Wolfe and Dakota Lewis of Three Points Land . They share insights on transitioning from oil and gas to renewable energy, the challenges faced in the profession, and the role of AI in improving land services.  Other takeaways: A psychology major and playing colleg...

The Real Deal Landman Show is back with hosts Drew Hopkins and Jerris Johnson getting to know Vincent Caruso . Talk about a fascinating path! Vin grew up on Long Island, but now lives in Houston. Vin was a maritime lawyer, but is now a managing director at Percheron .  He has worked on many facets of land in virtually every aspect of energy. He values relationships with landowners and wants to ens...

In this episode of the Real Deal Landman Show, hosts Jerris Johnson and Drew Hopkins welcome Paula Rauchfuss , a seasoned professional in land administration. The conversation covers Paula's extensive career journey, her experiences with software in the oil and gas industry, and the challenges of change management. They discuss the impact of AI and automation on land administration, the importance...

Special note about this episode: This could have also been called “The Tale of Two Drews”. For those of us out there not named “Drew”, there is apparently a real deal discussion on what is a “True Drew” versus an “Andrew”, and there are also some very strong feelings on the matter!  It’s the time of year again to get out the Christmas decorations, wait for the new season of the Landman TV show, an...

If you are a mineral or royalty owner, and you have ever had a question or issue that needed resolution, you probably talked to someone in an owner relations department. At the recent annual convention of the National Association of Royalty Owners , hosts Drew Hopkins and Jerris Johnson visited with Ardy Amin , the man who heads up owner relations for Ascent Resources.   They discuss the evolution...

The title isn’t clickbait. This is a legit episode about wrestling. This conversation was recorded live for a webinar with the Dallas-Fort Worth Association of Lease and Title Analysts.  Host Jerris Johnson sits down in the OKC studio with his guests, local celebrity Colby Thelen and another guy we’ve seen before, Drew Hopkins. It goes against the norm of what this podcast usually discusses, but l...

This conversation was recorded live in Boston at the annual institute of the National Association of Division Order Analysts. Drew Hopkins and Jerris Johnson were excited to bring back Larry Coshow , a legendary landman. It offers valuable insights for both new and experienced division order analysts and land professionals, highlighting the importance of networking, mentorship, and personal brandi...

Drew Hopkins and Jerris Johnson had the immense privilege to converse with Nancy McCaskell , who has a storied career as a landman, executive leader, and is the Immediate Past President of the American Association of Professional Landmen. Nancy shares her remarkable story of how she began her career in the profession and quickly advanced into leadership. And to follow her passion, she even took ti...

Drew Hopkins sits down in person with Hamel B. Reinmiller, EVP of Land, Legal & Business Development for Command Energy, for a candid conversation that leads to an inevitable conclusion: Hamel IS the Tulsa King. Jerris Johnson is on the episode too, but since he stayed home, it just doesn't seem to count as much. Hamel shares his stories from the field, his education at the Virginia Military I...

Scott Casso of Casso Land & Imaging Services LLC joins Drew Hopkins and Jerris Johnson in The Real Deal Landman Show studio to share lessons of good old-fashioned hard work. What do you do when a global pandemic happens and threatens your business? Whatever it takes, including cleaning chickens in a butcher shop. What do you do when you see a wave of new technology on the horizon? Embrace it,...

In this episode of The Real Deal Landman Show , hosts Drew Hopkins and Jerris Johnson sit down with their guest, Jonathan Rich , Vice President Land for Renewa, to discuss his journey as a landman, from early career experiences to the transition from oil and gas to renewable energy. They explore the importance of building relationships in the land business, the challenges of navigating contracts,...

Hosts Drew Hopkins and Jerris Johnson recorded a live episode of The Real Deal Landman Show from the annual symposium of the Oklahoma City Association of Lease Title Analysts. They were honored to welcome distinguished guests Brent Douglas and David Woods of Magellan Executive Partners to the stage. Brent and David shared timeless lessons of old-fashioned leadership gained from years of executive...

It might seem that way, but this has not pivoted into a sports podcast. And Drew Hopkins proves it with his stellar knowledge of blockbuster NBA trades. Drew and Jerris Johnson bring in non-op expert Pete Marshall , Land Manager for Ellipsis . Pete shares his stories of how he became a landman and how his career evolved to its current role with a privately funded non-operating company that is expl...

Drew Hopkins and Jerris Johnson are beyond excited to sit down with Tim Pawul , President of the Minerals & Royalties Authority LLC . After nearly 200 episodes of his Minerals and Royalties podcast, Tim has the opportunity to share his story on The Real Deal Landman Show. Hear stories of inspiration and personal development, and receive a master class on the oil and gas minerals space. Connect...

Another in-studio session of The Real Deal Landman Show with hosts Drew Hopkins and Jerris Johnson and guests Grant Raney and Michael Gumbs of Impact Energy, EQV Resources, and Environmental Impact Solutions. Hear about the fascinating backgrounds of Michael and Grant and how they have built a few of the premier independently owned oil and gas companies in Oklahoma City. Find Grant and Michael on...