The Public Company Series Podcast

In this season one finale of The Public Company Series Podcast , host Doug Chia reflects on the insightful conversations and key governance issues explored throughout the show's first sixteen episodes. Grounded in the foundational book Board Structure and Composition, co-published by the New York Stock Exchange and J.P. Morgan, this season brought together leading experts to deliver practical...

Boardrooms today are navigating competing priorities: preserving institutional knowledge while responding to rapid technological and societal change. In this episode, Doug Chia sits down with Andrew Jones of The Conference Board to unpack new data revealing how boards are evolving, more slowly than expected, and why fewer directors are being added despite increasing complexity. From the decline in...

Executive pay is often judged by a single figure, but that figure can be deeply misleading. In this episode, Doug Chia speaks with Ira Kay and Mike Kesner from Pay Governance LLC about the limitations of traditional compensation reporting and the frameworks that aim to better reflect reality. They walk through the mechanics of realizable pay, the SEC’s compensation actually paid metric, and the br...

Boards today are operating in a rapidly shifting landscape where traditional expertise alone is no longer enough. In this conversation, Erin Essenmacher and Rochelle Campbell unpack what it means to build a “balanced board” that can effectively oversee strategy and risk in a dynamic environment. They challenge long-held assumptions about board composition and make the case for expanding the lens b...

What makes a board truly effective? Beyond resumes and expertise, it comes down to how directors interact, challenge each other, and make decisions together. In this episode, Chuck Gray and Pam Warren of Egon Zehnder share insights from their work with boards around the world, focusing on the cultural foundations that drive performance. They discuss the importance of intentional leadership, the nu...

Board observers are a common yet often misunderstood feature of private company governance. In this episode, Doug Chia is joined by Jeremy Winter and Michelle Gasaway of Skadden to unpack what board observers are, how they differ from directors, and why investors and companies use them. They explore the flexibility of the role as a contractual construct, the benefits it can provide through strateg...

Internal audit plays a critical yet often misunderstood role in corporate governance. In this episode, Doug Chia is joined by Carey Blakeman and Benito Ybarra from the Institute of Internal Auditors, and Mike Varney from Crowe LLP, to unpack what internal audit actually is, and what it isn’t. They explore how the function extends far beyond compliance, offering both assurance and strategic advisor...

Board assessments have evolved from routine, check-the-box exercises into critical tools for improving performance, strengthening culture, and identifying hidden risks. In this conversation, Stuart R. Levine shares how effective evaluations balance quantitative rigor with qualitative insight, uncovering the nuances that surveys alone often miss. He explains why confidentiality and independence are...

Boards today are navigating a landscape defined by constant change, emerging risks, and evolving expectations. In this episode, Doug Chia sits down with Jane Edison Stevenson and Claudia Pici Morris of Korn Ferry to explore how board succession must adapt to meet these challenges. They discuss the shift from relying on past experience to cultivating a continuous learning mindset, and why agility,...

Corporate spinoffs are among the most complex strategic transactions a company can undertake. In this episode, Doug Chia speaks with Rama Variankaval, Managing Director and Global Head of Corporate Advisory at JP Morgan, about the governance and strategic considerations involved in spinning off a business into a standalone public company. The conversation explores why companies pursue corporate se...

What was once simply the “nominating committee” has evolved into one of the most influential bodies in corporate governance. In this episode of the Public Company Series, Doug Chia is joined by Lillian Tsu and Natalia Rezai of Cleary Gottlieb Steen & Hamilton to explore the expanding role of the Nominating and Corporate Governance Committee. From board refreshment and director independence to...

AI is rapidly reshaping how organizations operate, and the boardroom is no exception. In this episode, Tim Adair, CPO of OnBoard, joins Doug Chia to explore how AI is changing the way boards function today and how it will influence governance in the years ahead. Drawing on insights from OnBoard’s board effectiveness research, Tim explains why many boards struggle to operate at full effectiveness a...

The role of the compensation committee has expanded far beyond setting CEO pay. In this episode, Doug Chia is joined by Blair Jones and Todd Sirras of Semler Brossy to explore how compensation committees are evolving to oversee workforce strategy, culture, talent development, and organizational readiness for the future. They discuss how regulatory changes, stakeholder capitalism, and emerging tech...

In this episode, Doug Chia sits down with Paul Washington, president and CEO of the Society for Corporate Governance, to explore how public company board committees ended up with the familiar Audit, Compensation, and Nominating & Governance structure and why that structure may no longer match the demands boards face today. Paul explains how the post-Enron regulatory environment solidified the...

Corporate governance begins with the board of directors, but designing the “right” board is far more complex than following a standard formula. In this episode, Doug Chia is joined by Steven Byeff and Ning Chiu, partners at Davis Polk & Wardwell LLP. Together, they explore why one-size-fits-all approaches to board design often fall short and what companies should consider instead. The conversa...

Shareholder engagement has come a long way from its early days as a loosely defined practice to a core component of modern corporate governance. In this episode, Doug Chia is joined by Matt Filosa, Senior Managing Director at Teneo, to trace the evolution of engagement from pre-Dodd-Frank conversations around say on pay to today’s polarized environment shaped by pro- and anti-ESG activism.  The co...

In the first episode of the Public Company Series podcast, host Doug Chia is joined by Chuka Umunna, Global Head of Corporate Governance and Sustainable Solutions at JP Morgan. Drawing on the opening chapter of the book Board Structure and Composition, they explore how global board governance practices are evolving under increasing shareholder pressure, regulatory scrutiny, and cross-border comple...

Curious how top boards stay agile, resilient, and future-ready? Host Doug Chia guides conversations with leading experts in corporate governance, based on the NYSE & J.P. Morgan book Board Structure and Composition . This season explores board effectiveness, CEO succession, shareholder engagement, and more, equipping directors, executives, and governance professionals with practical tools to d...