Black Winch
The Product-As-A-Service Champions Podcast, by Black Winch
The Product-As-A-Service Champions Podcast aims to eliminate the sense of being alone when trying to navigate the complexities of the "As-A-Service" landscape. You are not alone out there. We're creating a bustling community of As-A-Service champions just like you. In the Product-As-A-Service Champions Podcast, we will cut through the noise surrounding "As-A-Service". We'll talk real business. Welcome to a space where we dissect buzzwords and offer you meaningful perspectives. To get started with your As-A-Service journey, visit www.blackwinch.eu
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Episodes
Tire-As-A-Service: Meet François Johnston, Founder of Johnston Circular and ex-General Manager at Michelin 06.05.2026 36:21
In this episode, Yann Toutant speaks with François Johnston , Founder of Johnston Circular and former Head of Michelin ’s Tire-as-a-service business, about why value-based pricing, high reuse rates, and operational excellence are key to making product-as-a-service both profitable and truly circular. Key takeaways: Monetize real customer value first: efficiency, peace of mind, and performance drive...
Filtration-As-A-Service: Meet Eva Verbrugghe, Business Development Director Europe at DESOTEC 08.04.2026 25:17
To kick off Season 3 of the Product-as-a-Service Champion podcast, Yann Toutant , CEO of Black Winch, sits down with Eva Verbrugghe , Business Development Director Europe at DESOTEC , to explore how filtration-as-a-service is transforming industrial sustainability. Key takeaways: Filtration-as-a-service bundles equipment, logistics, compliance, and expertise into one seamless solution, removing op...
Sound-As-A-Service: Meet Alina Bösch, As-A-Service Manager at d&b audiotechnik 26.06.2025 28:03
In this episode, Yann Toutant speaks with Alina Bösch , Lead of Subscription-Series at d&b audiotechnik , about the company's innovative "Sound as a Service" model and its impact on the professional audio industry. Key takeaways: d&b offers a full-service, low-risk alternative to owning a sound system, providing access to cutting-edge audio technology for a fixed monthly fee....
Mobility-As-A-Service: Meet Louis Wyers, Director Partnerships & Retail at Ayvens 14.03.2025 39:44
In this episode, Yann Toutant speaks with Louis Wyers , Director Partnerships & Retail at Ayvens , about the evolving landscape of car leasing, circularity, and the future of mobility. Key takeaways: Profitability in car leasing depends on high fleet utilization and low standing costs. Flexibility in leasing attracts customers but must be balanced to stay profitable. Circular leasing wor...
Lighting-As-A-Service: Meet Dominiek Plancke, CEO at ETAP Lighting 20.02.2025 50:52
In this episode of the Product-As-A-Service Champions podcast, Yann Toutant talks with Dominiek Plancke , CEO of ETAP Lighting , about their Circular Light as a Service (C-LaaS) model. Key takeaways: Four mega trends shape the model: the EU’s carbon-neutral targets, circular economy, ownership to usership, and digitalization. Sales need to focus on Total Cost of Ownership (TCO), addressing long-te...
Sports-As-A-Service: Meet Yann Carré, Leader circular business models at Decathlon 21.01.2025 36:48
In this new episode, Yann Toutant, CEO of Black Winch, and Yann Carré , Leader of Circular Business Models at Decathlon , explore the evolution of Sports-As-A-Service and the shift toward circular business models. Key takeaways include: Transitioning to Sports-As-A-Service requires patience, resilience, and strong executive sponsorship. Decathlon’s approach is driven by three KPIs: customer review...
Furniture-As-A-Service: Meet Jonas Kjellberg, Founder of NORNORM 10.12.2024 29:37
In this episode of the Product-As-A-Service Champions podcast, Yann Toutant, CEO of Black Winch, and Jonas Kjellberg, Founder of NORNORM , explore the transformative potential of circularity in the furniture industry. Key takeaways include: Circular furniture design focuses on modularity, repairability, and simplicity. Technology and iterative processes help build stronger client relationships. Ed...
Compressed-Air-As-A-Service: Meet Olli Kuismanen, Business Developer at Tamturbo 18.11.2024 40:14
Season 2 of the Product-As-A-Service Champions podcast starts with a look at Tamturbo 's "Touch-Free Air", an innovative approach to compressed air offered as a service. Host Yann Toutant speaks with Olli Kuismanen , Business Developer at Tamturbo, about how their unique setup is transforming compressed air systems. Key takeaways: Ownership has shifted to subscriptions and specialized companie...
PaaS: What the big 4 won't tell you 20.09.2024 46:46
To conclude the first season of the Product-As-A-Service Champions podcast, we have gathered, during a one-of-a-kind webinar, top servitization experts sharing insights beyond traditional theories. While academic principles and insights from the Big 4 are valuable, it’s the practical experiences that truly fuel the success of Product-As-A-Service solutions. Get ready for genuine stories from the f...
Healthcare-As-A-Service: Meet Daniel Cho, Head of Strategic Pricing at Philips Healthcare 12.09.2024 39:25
Yann Toutant , CEO of Black Winch, and Daniel Cho , Head of Strategic Pricing at Philips Healthcare , discuss the concept of "Healthcare as a Service" and "Patient Monitoring as a Service." Instead of just selling medical devices, Philips offers comprehensive solutions that help hospitals optimize patient care, improve monitoring, and ensure high-quality care. Key insights: Philips's model e...
Telco-As-A-Service: Meet Pierre-Yves Noel, Director Rainbow Platform at Alcatel-Lucent Enterprise 06.08.2024 50:47
Episode 5 of the Product-As-A-Service Champions Podcast is out! Tune in as Yann Toutant, CEO of Black Winch and Pierre-Yves Noel , Director Innovation and Ecosystem - Rainbow Platform at Alcatel-Lucent Enterprise , demystify Connectivity-As-A-Service. Here are the key insights: Shifting to as-a-service was key as the market moved toward software and subscriptions. The "Land, Adopt, Expand, Renew"...
Cinema-As-A-Service: Meet Bas van Heek, Director Strategic Marketing at Barco 10.07.2024 35:21
Tune in to Episode 4 of the Product-As-A-Service Champions Podcast! Join Yann Toutant , CEO of Black Winch and Bas van Heek , Director Strategic Marketing at Barco Cinema as they discuss the evolution of cinema technology and the shift towards a Cinema-as-a-Service model. Key insights include: Barco’s model focuses on delivering quality projection, not just hardware. Cinema-As-A-Service lets cinem...
White Goods As-A-Service: Meet Gaurav Julka, Co-Founder of Levande by Electrolux 20.06.2024 37:14
Tune in to the third episode of the Product-As-A-Service Champions Podcast! In this episode, Yann Toutant , CEO of Black Winch, engages in a dynamic conversation around subscriptions for appliances with Gaurav Julka , former Head of Appliance As-A-Service at Electrolux APAC & MEA and co-founder of Levande - an innovative app that enables consumers to subscribe to Electrolux appliances. Key tak...
Cooling-As-A-Service: Meet David Mackerness, Director at Kaer 30.05.2024 31:50
Welcome to the second episode of the Product-As-A-Service Champions Podcast! Yann Toutant , CEO of Black Winch, discusses with David Mackerness , Director at Kaer , about their pioneering work in Cooling-as-a-Service (CaaS) across Asia. Tune into this episode as we explore: How customer demand led Kaer to switch from selling products to offering CaaS solutions. The challenge of shifting from CAPE...
Appliance-As-A-Service: Meet E-Lin Tan, Global Head of BlueMovement - BSH 16.05.2024 37:15
Welcome to the first episode of the Product-As-A-Service Champions Podcast! Yann Toutant , CEO of Black Winch, sits down with E-Lin Tan , Global Head of BlueMovement at BSH Home Appliances , to discuss how they are revolutionizing the home appliance industry through their Appliance-as-a-Service model. Tune into this episode as we uncover: BSH's shift to appliance subscriptions for flexibility,...
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