Penn Graduate School of Education, University of Pennsylvania
The Practitioner-Scholar: The PennCLO Podcast
Welcome to "The Practitioner-Scholar: The PennCLO Podcast," the flagship production of the renowned Penn Chief Learning Officer Executive Doctoral Program at the University of Pennsylvania. Immerse yourself in a curated blend of scholarly insights and industry expertise, offering a profound exploration of organizational learning and leadership. Unveiling strategies and success indicators crucial in today's dynamic landscape, this podcast is a testament to the distinctive approach fostered by our program. Join us on a transformative journey through the multifaceted world of leadership, where pr...
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Jun 30, 2026
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Episodes
Architects of Change: A Six-Part Leadership Roadmap for the AI Era 30.06.2026 37:23
In this episode of The Practitioner Scholar , Dr. Sharon Ravitch sits down with Dr. Bridie Fanning, Managing Director at Accenture and former Chief HR Officer, to discuss her critical contributing chapter to the ground-breaking new book, Leaders as Architects of Change (edited by Dr. Sharon Ravitch and Dr. Raghu Krishnamoorthy). While modern headlines focus heavily on what artificial intelligence...
Leaders as Architects of Collaboration 28.05.2026 43:38
Great collaboration doesn't happen. It's designed. So why do so many leadership teams still treat it as something that should just emerge naturally? In this episode of the PennCLO Podcast, The Practitioner Scholar , Dr. Sharon M. Ravitch speaks with PennCLO mentor and lecturer Dr. Phillip Ellis about designing organizations for collaboration, resilience, and adaptive leadership. Based on Phillip’s...
Designing for Uncertainty: Rethinking Leadership Beyond Control 29.04.2026 29:06
What if uncertainty isn’t the problem—but the point? In this episode of the PennCLO Podcast, Dr. Jennifer Neumaier sits down with Penn CLO doctoral alum Dr. Lucrecia Grandolini about her chapter on leading through uncertainty from the book Leaders as Architects: Designing Organizations for Connection and Resilience , co-edited by Dr. Sharon Ravitch (University of Pennsylvania Graduate School of Ed...
When the Map Disappears: Architecting Adaptability in a World That Won’t Slow Down 02.04.2026 37:42
Dr. Sharon Ravitch (University of Pennsylvania Graduate School of Education) interviews Penn CLO doctoral alum Oscar Arias about his chapter, “Leading in Flux,” from the book Leaders as Architects: Designing Organizations for Connection and Resilience, co-edited by Ravitch and Dr. Ragu Krishnamoorthy. Arias explains “flux” as leading when conditions constantly shift, and describes a move from VUCA...
How Motherhood Creates Stronger Leaders and The Hidden ROI of Working Parents 24.03.2026 55:52
What if one of the most powerful leadership development experiences doesn’t happen in the workplace at all? In this episode of The Practitioner Scholar: The Penn CLO Podcast , Gwen Mdinaradze, CEO of Edbridge, sits down with Dr. Becca Clanton, Ed. D., Americas Learning & Talent Development Leader at WSAudiology. Dr. Clanton shares findings from her research her own personal and professional st...
PennCLO Presents: Leaders as Architects of Change - A pre-launch conversation for the forthcoming book 24.02.2026 37:15
In this special episode of the Practitioner Scholar podcast from the Penn Chief Learning Officer Doctoral program, Dr. Ragu Krishnamoorthy and Dr. Sharon Ravitch introduce their new book, 'Leaders as Architects of Change.' The discussion covers how modern leadership demands adaptability, resilience, and innovative thinking to navigate a world defined by rapid, unpredictable change. They explore t...
Rethinking Psychological Safety: What Sales Can Teach Anyone About Cooperation and Trust 24.01.2026 26:03
In this episode of The Penn CLO Podcast, host Emma Zumsen sits down with Dr. Jess Jones, a recent graduate of the CLO program, to delve into her groundbreaking research on the intersection of B2B sales and psychological safety. Dr. Jones highlights how psychological safety, often focused on team dynamics within organizations, plays a crucial role in B2B sales environments. Moving beyond sales, th...
Encouraging Dissent for Better Outcomes 29.05.2025 35:58
In this episode of the Practitioner Scholar podcast, host Julio Zelaya sits down with Dr. Marikay Forst , a distinguished alumna of the Penn Chief Learning Officer program with over 25 years of experience in learning and development, human resources, and organizational behavior. Dr. Forst shares her academic journey, including her decision to join the Penn CLO program after gaining substantial pro...
Grit and Growth: Keys to Success for Women Lawyers 28.04.2025 43:26
In this episode of the Practitioner Scholar podcast, hosted by Julio Zelaya , we meet Dr. Milana Hogan , the Chief Talent Officer at Sullivan and Cromwell, LLP. Dr. Hogan is an alumna of the Penn Chief Learning Officer (CLO) program at the University of Pennsylvania and holds a doctorate in work-based learning and development. The episode focuses on the role of grit and growth mindset in the succe...
Empathy at Work: Transforming Organizations from Within 26.02.2025 25:21
In this episode of The Practitioner Scholar , host Jess Jones welcomes Dr. Carla Thomas, a former WNBA athlete turned leadership consultant and educator. Dr. Thomas shares her journey from professional sports to academia, exploring how empathy shapes workplace culture and enhances collaboration. She discusses the role of emotional intelligence in effective leadership and the ways organizations can...
Harnessing Film for Leadership Development 21.01.2025 36:03
In this episode of The Practitioner Scholar, a Penn Chief Learning Officer podcast, hosts Maria Luisa Underwood and Lisa-Marie Aird interview Dr. Douglas Clayton, a visionary in corporate learning and culture transformation. Dr. Clayton, founder and CEO of Leadership Filmworks LLC, shares his journey through the Penn CLO program and how it shaped his unique approach to leadership development using...
The Serious Research of Workplace Fun 04.12.2024 44:14
In this episode of the Practitioner Scholar, host Julio Zelaya sits down with Dr. Janet Duliga, a distinguished executive and alumna of the Penn CLO Executive Program. Dr. Duliga, currently the Chief Corporate Officer at Prada Group, shares her extensive journey through law, psychology, and human resources, emphasizing her passion for organizational learning and leadership. They delve into Dr. Dul...
Authenticity in Leadership and Why it Matters 24.10.2024 26:25
In this episode of the Practitioner Scholar podcast, hosted by Lisa-Marie Aird, Dr. Mark Kaestner, an alum of the Penn Chief Learning Officer program and VP at Ball Corporation, shares his insights on authentic leadership. He discusses his journey through the Penn CLO program, the essence of leadership authenticity, and strategies for building trust with teams. Dr. Kaestner highlights key element...
From the Navy to Academia: Insights on Ethical Leadership 25.09.2024 17:17
In this episode of the Practitioner Scholar, host Becca Clanton interviews Dr. Peg Klein , a distinguished alumna of the Penn Chief Learning Officer (CLO) program. Dr. Klein shares her unique journey from growing up near a Naval base to becoming a Navy officer and eventually an ethical leadership scholar. She discusses the impact of her early exposure to the military and aviation on her career, an...
Mastering Stress and Leadership in High-Stakes Environments 21.08.2024 28:03
In this episode of the Practitioner Scholar podcast, host Jess Jones interviews Dr. John 'Coach' Havlick, a retired Navy SEAL Captain, Hall of Fame swimmer, and Penn CLO graduate. They discuss Dr. Havlick's storied career, from college swimming and coaching at the Naval Academy to leading elite SEAL units and his subsequent career in consulting and academia. Dr. Havlick shares insights from his bo...
Branding as an Executive 17.07.2024 27:33
In this episode of the Practitioner Scholar, hosted by Lisa-Marie Aird, we welcome Dr. Lilian Ajayi Ore, a distinguished digital marketing strategist, top LinkedIn influencer, and humanitarian. Dr. Ajayi Ore, an alumna of the Penn Chief Learning Officer (CLO) program, shares her journey and insights from her extensive career in global diplomacy, corporate industry, consulting, and academia. The di...
Leading the Charge: Reshaping Executive Leadership for the Modern Age 09.06.2024 38:58
In this enlightening episode of the Practitioner Scholar, Lisa-Marie Aird welcomes Dr. Raj Ramachardran, a trailblazer in leadership consulting and an alum of the Penn CLO program's first cohort. Amidst shared laughs and candid stories, they delve into pivotal leadership concepts for the modern age, examining both the challenges and transformative strategies essential for today's executives. Raj s...
AI-Powered Learning: Navigating the Future of Talent Development 07.05.2024 36:52
In this episode of the Practitioner Scholar, hosted by Melissa Monti, Dr. Ann Schulte, a Penn CLO program alumna and current Senior Vice President of Talent Development and Chief Learning Officer at Procter & Gamble, discusses the integration of AI in talent development and the importance of an always Beta mindset for continuous workplace innovation.
Diversity, Equity, Inclusion and Belonging Unleashed: Turning Buzzwords into Business Breakthroughs 05.04.2024 59:10
In this episode of 'Practitioner Scholar', host Lisa-Marie Aird dives into the realm of Diversity, Equity, Inclusion, and Belonging (DEIB) with Maria Luisa Garcia Underwood, a seasoned leader in education and organizational development. Maria, who serves as the CEO of M. Ideas Consulting Services and is also a current CLO student at Penn, shares her journey into DEIB, inspired by her personal expe...
Unlocking the Resilience Code: Emotional Intelligence and Burnout Immunity 06.03.2024 41:12
In this episode of the Practitioner Scholar, Penn Chief Learning Officer podcast, host Melissa Monti talks with Dr. Kandi Wiens, a senior fellow at the University of Pennsylvania and author of the new book, 'Burnout Immunity.' Dr. Wiens, a graduate of the Penn CLO program, shares her experiences juggling work, school, and family life, leading to a life-threatening wake-up call due to stress. Disc...
Redefining the Learning Leader Role: Elevating Learning Strategies for Organizational Excellence 06.02.2024 39:48
In the inaugural episode of the Practitioner-Scholar, The Penn Chief Learning Officer Podcast, host Melissa Monti talks extensively with Dr. Keith Keating, Chief Learning and Talent Officer for BDO, a global consulting firm. Dr. Keating shares his challenging personal learning journey, having dropped out of formal schooling at 15 and subsequently recognizing the power of learning. They discuss Dr....
Trailer 30.01.2024 0:51
Introducing "The Practitioner-Scholar: The PennCLO Podcast," where we blend academic know-how with real-world practicality. In this series we dive into the strategies and success stories shaping organizational learning and leadership. From dissecting practitioner-scholar approaches to featuring standout individuals from our student and alumni circles, we bring you insights that matter. Whether you...
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