ABC Refinery
The Pod of Gold
Hosts Nick Frappell and Shae Russell interview members of the ABC Refinery team and industry professionals to better understand today’s investing landscape for precious metals. ABC Refinery is Australasia’s pre-eminent independent precious metal assayer, refiner and mint. ABC Refinery is the refining division of Pallion, Australasia’s largest independent precious metal services group of companies.
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Jul 3, 2026
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Episodes
Banks go down, rates go up and gold runs hard. Plus…why the Fed had to raise rates so they didn’t spook the market 29.03.2023 35:30
In this episode we analyse why gold has fallen back from its peak despite recent US banks collapsing, we look at the reasons behind the Fed rate hike and why banks will be forced to raise rates, leading to more pressure this tightening cycle. Time Stamps 1:00 – The gold trade isn’t crowded despite gold’s run 3:55 – Traders didn’t want to be short gold with the swirl of news flow 5:25 – Au l...
Gold holds up as the Fed faces a two-speed economy. Plus, silver falls without a big spending package from China. 09.03.2023 29:54
In today’s episode we look at the upcoming FOMC in March and discuss the mismatch between narrative and the futures market when it comes to what the Fed will do next. Nick dissects China’s recent National Party Congress, what the GDP expectations China has put forward mean and the hints which suggest China is looking to internalise consumption. Plus, as gold continues to hug the US$1,850s level, N...
What lies above US$2,075 for gold...plus Fed still looks to hike, markets to remain volatile and silver’s duality. 20.02.2023 35:14
In this episode of The Pod of Gold, Nick Frappell & Shae Russell discuss why central banks increased their gold position in 2022, why the Federal Reserve Bank may hike a few more times and a key multiyear gold price target to watch. PODCAST INFO: ABC Refinery website: https://www.abcrefinery.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-pod-of-gold/id1592958488 Spotify:...
Higher rates, sticky inflation, and what this means for gold in 2023 22.12.2022 22:21
Can gold stay above US$1,800? In this episode of The Pod of Gold, Nick Frappell & Shae Russell discuss how the potential Fed pivot fed a short covering rally in gold, why the performance of the Australian dollar hinges on China’s economic reopening, and key price targets ahead for the yellow metal. PODCAST INFO: ABC Refinery website: https://www.abcrefinery.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://...
The Fed didn’t flinch 10.11.2022 19:16
Are bond and equity asset markets pricing interest rate expectations in? In this episode of The Pod of Gold, Nick Frappell & Shae Russell discuss why the higher for longer rate narrative is here to stay, we question if equity markets have factored this in, and what this means for gold... PODCAST INFO: ABC Refinery website: https://www.abcrefinery.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.ap...
Fed – to pivot or not to pivot? Commentators say yes, market pricing suggests not 27.10.2022 32:07
China’s political reshuffle and the impacts for Australian dollar In this episode of The Pod of Gold, Nick Frappell & Shae Russell discuss why gold short positions are still increasing, why central bank policies will keep markets transfixed for some time, and the impact of China’s 20th National Congress meeting on the Australian dollar. PODCAST INFO: ABC Refinery website: https://www.abcrefine...
Why the Fed is unlikely to pivot in the current inflationary phase 11.10.2022 31:20
Precious metals price action to watch out for In this episode of The Pod of Gold, Nick Frappell & Shae Russell discuss how managed money is impacting gold positioning, why the Taylor Rule suggests the Fed won’t pivot, and how China’s 20th national congress meeting this week is likely to create a new political cycle in the middle kingdom. PODCAST INFO: ABC Refinery website: https://www.abcrefin...
Fed drives higher for longer narrative, plus gold shrugs off geopolitics 26.09.2022 30:24
When it comes to gold, in the end it’s still a rates market In this episode of The Pod of Gold, Nick Frappell & Shae Russell discuss the Fed’s ongoing battle with inflation, the critical importance of energy security, and what’s really driving the gold price. PODCAST INFO: ABC Refinery website: https://www.abcrefinery.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-pod-of...
Momentum still with the US dollar 19.09.2022 31:43
In this episode of The Pod of Gold, Nick Frappell & Shae Russell discuss the rotation from gold into US dollars, the dataset that spooked gold markets, and the continuing central bank policy divergence. Recorded Friday 16th PODCAST INFO: ABC Refinery website: https://www.abcrefinery.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-pod-of-gold/id1592958488 Spotify: https://...
Central bankers in Jackson Hole continue aggressive tightening moves 31.08.2022 28:17
In this episode of The Pod of Gold, Nick Frappell & Shae Russell discuss how gold failed to move up through a key indicator, how silver appears to have decoupled from copper, and why a once in a decade US dollar rally can trigger a crisis somewhere else. PODCAST INFO: ABC Refinery website: https://www.abcrefinery.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-pod-of-gold...
Gold and silver react to Fed’s rate rise 04.08.2022 34:55
In this episode of The Pod of Gold, Nick Frappell & Shae Russell discuss the dovish interpretation of the Fed’s July meeting and what that means for gold, why the Australian dollar is still under pressure, and if the Chinese property woes are a contagion event or if the CCP have the problem contained. PODCAST INFO: ABC Refinery website: https://www.abcrefinery.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https...
Gold treads water ahead of July FOMC 26.07.2022 24:03
In this episode of The Pod of Gold, Nick Frappell & Shae Russell discuss how gold is treading water ahead of the July Federal Open Market Committee, how much higher can the US dollar go, and will the Fed start cutting rates in 2023? PODCAST INFO: ABC Refinery website: https://www.abcrefinery.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-pod-of-gold/id1592958488 Spotify:...
Fed and ECB policies diverge – can the system handle a shock from a highly valued US dollar? 10.07.2022 35:12
In this episode of The Pod of Gold, Nick Frappell & Shae Russell discuss the impact dollar strength is having on gold and the increasing yield gap between the US dollar and major currencies. Finally, we ask, is there scope in the system for a shock from a highly valued US dollar? Time Stamps: · 0.41 – Gold longs aren’t strong, but shorts aren’t convinced · 3:35 – Point n Figure suggested in Ap...
Is the glass half full or half empty for gold? 29.06.2022 30:16
In this episode of The Pod of Gold, we look at what managed money’s lack of rotation is signalling about stagflation fears, the G7’s decision to ban Russian gold imports, how the Fed will manage rate expectations against inflation plus the Bank of Japan’s intervention in their bond market and the inflection point in the Japanese yen. Time Stamps: · 0:40 – Managed money not rotating into gold despi...
Rates, gold and the market that matters the most 20.06.2022 28:08
Recorded at the Australian Gold Conference on 14th June, in this episode of The Pod of Gold, Nick Frappell & Shae Russell start with ‘the market that matters the most’, the Fed’s 75 basis point increase, discuss liquidity fears not seen since the financial crisis and how gold is holding up remarkably well... Time Stamps: · 1:29 – Higher interest rates triggered a ‘violent’ response from market...
Gold holds, Fed stays on course and China blinks 31.05.2022 31:29
In this episode of The Pod of Gold, Nick Frappell & Shae Russell discuss the confluence of Fibonacci levels in gold, the duality of views coming from the Federal Reserve Bank, and what Dr copper can tell us about silver. Time Stamps: · 1:06 – Gold closes above the weekly cloud · 5:16 – Spot gold and the confluence of Fibonacci levels · 8:19 – Point n Figure suggests there’s room for gold to re...
The US dollar, war, stagflation and their impact on gold 06.05.2022 32:26
Recorded Live from RIU Sydney 2022 In this episode of The Pod of Gold, Nick Frappell & Shae Russell discuss how the US dollar may be nearing the peak of its 39-month cycle, why Russia’s war on Ukraine increased inflation risks and what these mean for spot gold. Time Stamps: · 0:40 — US dollar strength and real yields · 2:12 — Russian invasion worsens inflation outlook · 3:53 — Key factors driv...
How much longer can the US dollar rally last? 01.05.2022 30:24
In this episode of The Pod of Gold, Nick Frappell & Shae Russell discuss how one indicator would have tested the resolve of most traders, the absolute smashing for most currencies against the US dollar, why Brent’s retreat won’t last and what could cause gold to jump despite the current strong dollar. Time Stamps: · 0:40 — Gold’s shooting star was a warning · 4:28 — An unpleasant test for trad...
Crude's correlation to gold and why the bulls are ready to charge 19.04.2022 25:44
In this episode of The Pod of Gold, Nick Frappell & Shae Russell discuss managed money’s increased short position for gold and silver’s recent bounce. Nick delves into Russia’s recent monetary theatre, then takes a deep look at the bullish predictions for Brent, and crude’s correlation to gold. Time Stamps · 0:44 — Managed money is on the defensive, yet technical support for gold is strong · 7...
Instability risks in China grow as gold sniffs out support 07.04.2022 22:28
In this episode of The Pod of Gold, Nick Frappell & Shae Russell discuss the muted moves in spot gold and how support for the yellow metal is inching higher. Nick takes a deeper look at the dollar cost of China’s relentless pursuit of Covid zero, and what the rumblings in the Middle Kingdom’s property sector may mean for the Australian dollar. Time Stamps: · 1.00 – Fourth consecutive week of m...
Fed hawks drive dialogue as gold finds support 30.03.2022 25:26
In this episode of The Pod of Gold, Nick Frappell & Shae Russell look at how Managed Money has reduced their exposure to gold for the third week in a row, why the Fed’s terminal limit is higher than we think, and what the synchronised slowdown in two of the world’s largest economies means. Time Stamps: · 0.55 – Managed Money has reduced their positioning in gold three weeks in a row · 3.10 – I...
Fed sticks to their plan as the gold price falls 17.03.2022 26:46
In this episode of The Pod of Gold, Nick Frappell & Shae Russell discuss the tilt of positioning in gold, some bullish price targets for silver and why the Fed didn’t want to spook the market. Plus, we have an update on China’s property sector, as well as a look at the LME’s day of reckoning last week. Time Stamps: · 0.57 – Why gold is difficult to trade during news flow · 3.10 - Managed Money...
Gold and commodities soar as Russia-Ukraine conflict drives markets 08.03.2022 29:18
In this episode of The Pod of Gold, Nick Frappell & Shae Russell discuss the different factors influencing gold and silver, soaring commodity prices and the risks to the market plus how the changing of seasons may slow Russia’s invasion in the Ukraine. Time Stamps: · 1.30 – Gold has had two cracks at US$2,000 per ounce · 3.53 – Managed money positioning – shorts are driving gold buying · 6.07...
How the Russian-Ukraine conflict may impact the Fed tightening cycle 28.02.2022 27:43
In this episode of The Pod of Gold, Nick Frappell & Shae Russell discuss how the Russian-Ukraine conflict may lead to a less aggressive Fed tightening cycle for 2022, silver’s recent short covering and what Russia’s invasion means for gold in the weeks ahead. Time Stamps: · 1.00 – Gold volatility and managed money positioning · 4.00 - ‘War drives up the price of gold but the news flow can driv...
‘When the Fed is in a tightening cycle, we all are’ 18.02.2022 32:08
In this episode of The Pod of Gold, Nick Frappell & Shae Russell discuss what fast money and slow money suggest about sentiment in gold, how 'when the Fed is in a tightening cycle, we all are' and the dollar positive environment which could provide a headwind for gold. Time Stamps: · 1.20 – Gold breaks through the weekly cloud top signalling a swing to the medium term bullish · 3.40 – Managed...
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