ABC Refinery
The Pod of Gold
Hosts Nick Frappell and Shae Russell interview members of the ABC Refinery team and industry professionals to better understand today’s investing landscape for precious metals. ABC Refinery is Australasia’s pre-eminent independent precious metal assayer, refiner and mint. ABC Refinery is the refining division of Pallion, Australasia’s largest independent precious metal services group of companies.
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Jul 3, 2026
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Episodes
Gold Breaks $2500: What’s Next? Insights on Rate Expectations, China, and the Aussie Dollar 22.08.2024 32:15
In this episode of The Pod of Gold, Nicholas Frappell, Global Head of Institutional Markets at ABC Refinery, discusses gold's recent surge past the $2500 mark. Nick explores the factors behind this psychological milestone, including shifts in U.S. rate expectations and the ongoing influence of central bank policies. Nicholas also delves into the impact of China’s economic stagnation on gold d...
Navigating Market Volatility: Short-Term Downside and Long-Term Upside for Gold 07.08.2024 20:55
In this episode of The Pod of Gold, host Shae Russell and Nicholas Frappell, Global Head of Institutional Markets at ABC Refinery, delve into the recent market volatility and its impact on gold. They discuss the factors driving recent market events, including significant changes in non-farm payrolls and the Bank of Japan's rate hike. Nicholas provides a detailed analysis of gold's performa...
Gold's Consolidation and the Impact of a Strong Dollar 27.06.2024 21:06
In this episode, Nicholas Frappell and Shae Russell delve into gold's recent consolidation, the impact of a strong dollar on Asian currencies, and the effects of market narratives on the yellow metal. They also explore the implications of US non-farm payrolls, China's pause on gold purchases, and the ongoing expectations around Fed rate cuts. Finally, they touch on Japan's economic pol...
Gold bubbling on the back of Fed’s higher for longer 29.05.2024 23:28
In this episode, Nicholas Frappell discusses: Gold cooling from recent rally, Fed sticking with higher for longer, Managed Money is positive on gold, Bullish targets for silver, and is US$2,600 possible? PODCAST INFO: ABC Refinery website: https://www.abcrefinery.com/podcast Nick Frappell: https://twitter.com/nick_frappell Shae R...
Decoding the global financial tapestry at this year’s RIU 12.05.2024 29:30
Record at the RIU Resources Round-up: In this episode, Nicolas Frappell unravels the complexities of global currencies and their relation to gold’s current rally, the nuances of the Federal Reserve’s anticipated rate cuts and how these continue to influence gold. (1:40) – Myths around the gold market (7:00) – How much of the rally is Chinese gold buying? (13:00) – China’s proportion of US dollars...
Could gold reach US$2,500 this year? 29.04.2024 28:45
In this episode, Nicholas Frappell covers gold's recent move south and the ongoing impact of open interest. PODCAST INFO: ABC Refinery website: https://www.abcrefinery.com/podcast Nick Frappell: https://twitter.com/nick_frappell Shae Russell: https://twitter.com/shaearussell OUTLINE : Here'...
Has this heart stopping #gold rally peaked? 07.04.2024 29:58
In this episode, Nicholas Frappell dives into the current drivers behind gold's recent rise, the magnetic pricing effect of open interest and why “2332” is the most important number to watch for April. PODCAST INFO: ABC Refinery website: https://www.abcrefinery.com/podcast Nick Frappell: https://twitter.com/nick_frappell Shae Russel...
Gold: How long will this super hot rally last? 18.03.2024 23:54
In this episode, Nicholas Frappell discusses the several factors driving gold higher and, where gold may land next and future potential impacts on the yellow metal’s price. Join us as we delve into these topics and more, offering insights and analysis on gold's macro position and what the future may hold. PODCAST INFO: ABC Refinery website: https://www.abcrefinery.com/podcast...
Will gold crack US$2,500? 25.02.2024 26:12
In this episode Nicholas Frappell puts forward to very bullish long term price targets, he covers why one economist warns rates may not go in the direction people are hoping for and perhaps we have reached peak China doom. Join us as we delve into these topics and more, offering insights and analysis on gold's macro position and what the future may hold. PODCAST INFO: ABC Refinery website: ...
Evergrande, dominates news but gold doesn’t react…plus why the Fed is moving down the rate cut path with caution. 12.02.2024 22:57
In this episode of The Pod of Gold, Nicholas Frappell discusses the potentially magnetic pricing of gold options, the unforeseen risks of Evergrande winding up and he analyses the continued divergence between the Federal Reserve and market rate cut expectations. Join us as we delve into these topics and more, offering insights and analysis on gold's macro position and what the future may hold....
Gold - holding above US$2,000 - Where next? 25.01.2024 27:53
In this episode of The Pod of Gold, Nicholas Frappell discusses the factors contributing to the strength of gold in 2024, including increasing geopolitical tensions, market responses to potential rate cuts, and China's attempt to mobilise 2 Trillion Yuan. Join us as we delve into these topics and more, offering insights and analysis on gold's macro position and what the future may hold. PO...
Gold's set up for 2024 20.12.2023 37:29
In this episode, Nicholas Frappell discusses gold’s current bullish set up, the ongoing disconnect between the markets and Federal Reserve Bank comment, the seasonal effects on gold and how real rates are still the main driver for gold. PODCAST INFO: ABC Refinery website: https://www.abcrefinery.com/podcast Nick Frappell: https://twitter.com/nick_frappell...
Gold's bold move, but where to next? 06.12.2023 22:04
In this episode Nicholas Frappell covers the gold’s all time high, price retreat and what targets to look for as the price settles. Why the US data released later this week will determine the outlook going into 2024 and what the Taylor Rule says about the Federal Reserve Bank’s current rate settings. PODCAST INFO: ABC Refinery website: https://www.abcrefinery.com/podcast N...
Gold rally heads north but will momentum keep it there? 23.11.2023 29:04
In this week's Pod of Gold episode, Nicholas Frappell covers gold’s potential double top, the exuberance behind the recent bond rally and has the Fed reached its terminal rate? PODCAST INFO: ABC Refinery website: https://www.abcrefinery.com/podcast Nick Frappell: https://twitter.com/nick_frappell Shae Russell: https://twitter.com/shaear...
The ‘war premium’ versus gold’s fair value 13.11.2023 19:34
In this week's Pod of Gold episode, Nicholas Frappell discusses the ‘war premium’ versus gold’s fair value, geographic threats around the Saudi peninsula, and how the ongoing Israel-Palestine conflict will impact gold prices going forward. Recorded at the International Mining and Resources Conference (IMARC) PODCAST INFO: ABC Refinery website: https://www.abcrefinery.com/podcast...
Where the gold price heads next 05.10.2023 34:24
In this episode Nick Frappell discusses why gold's recent drop is the market accepting rates will be 'high for longer', why the Aussie dollar will remain under pressure for the foreseeable future and where gold might head to next. PODCAST INFO: ABC Refinery website: https://www.abcrefinery.com/podcast Nick Frappell: https://twitter.com/nick_frappell...
The bulls push silver higher while gold holds ahead of Fed 20.09.2023 31:47
In this episode we discuss the short term road blocks for gold and why silver still has room to run higher. We cover what the Fed will do between now December and take a look at the why 10yr Treasury divestment is really about the negative carry trade. PODCAST INFO: ABC Refinery website: https://www.abcrefinery.com/podcast Nick Frappell: https://twitter.com/nick_frappell...
Markets doubt hawkish Fed, but you should believe Powell. Plus, don’t get caught betting against China and where to next for gold. 04.09.2023 26:10
Recorded live at the Australian Gold Conference, Gold rallies but Managed Money isn't bullish, yet there's plenty of upside ahead for the yellow metal. Don't be too bearish on China just yet, the trade looks crowded and could surprise you. Plus Bank of Japan's yield curve control and how much lower will the Aussie dollar fall? PODCAST INFO: ABC Refinery website: https://www...
Gold’s ‘Roaring 20s’ to continue strong 21.07.2023 19:13
Today we welcome special guest Jordan Eliseo, General Manager of ABC Bullion Australia to discuss the best gold event of 2023, what caused the gold price to pop higher and the technical indicators pointing to an uptrend in gold. Plus! secure your ticket to ABC Bullion’s Precious Metals Forum 2023 ‘Gold & The Roaring 20s’ https://www.eventbrite.com.au/e/abc-bullion-precious-metals-forum-tuesday...
Gold pops higher ahead of July Fed meeting and ANZ Bank forecasts more silver demand 13.07.2023 28:07
Today we discuss gold’s moves ahead of The Fed's July meeting, ANZ Bank's forecast on the Silver market entering a period of tightness unseen for decades, and key targets to watch for the Aussie dollar. PODCAST INFO: ABC Refinery website: https://www.abcrefinery.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-pod-of-gold/id1592958488 Spotify: https...
Gold dips, investors hold steady and a possible grey swan event 30.06.2023 28:00
Today we discuss gold’s recent dip to US$1,923, how investor interest is neither bullish nor bearish and we take a deep look at past exits from yield curve control and what pitfalls the Bank of Japan may face if they try to normalise policy. PODCAST INFO: ABC Refinery website: https://www.abcrefinery.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-pod-of-gold/id15929...
Gold hold steady as Fed pauses…plus silver’s fortunes are tied to China’s economic recovery 20.06.2023 26:00
In this episode The Federal Reserve Bank pauses but assures the market there’s more hikes to come, the Aussie dollar hits its stride but does it have staying payer? Silver’s price moves remain tied to China’s slow moving economy and we have some very bullish price targets for gold. Recorded at the Mines and Money Conference Melbourne - https://minesandmoney.com/melbourne/ PODCAST INFO: ABC Refiner...
Gold pivots away from US$2075 and why the Aussie dollar is falling 30.05.2023 15:55
In this episode we look at the reason’s behind gold’s pivot from 2075 back into the 1940s, how the markets appear to be pricing in a smooth debt ceiling negotiating, and what’s causing the Aussie dollar to fall. PODCAST INFO: ABC Refinery website: https://www.abcrefinery.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-pod-of-gold/id1592958488 Spotify: https://open.s...
Will gold head to US$2,500...plus how 'powerful macro themes and powerful macro risks' support gold 15.05.2023 31:43
In this episode we look at the ‘powerful macro themes and powerful macro risks’ providing support for gold, how US loan officers are tightening lending conditions in spite of some quantitative easing attempts and why gold could reach US$2,500. PODCAST INFO: ABC Refinery website: https://www.abcrefinery.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-pod-of-gold/id159295...
Will gold attack US$2,075 again? Plus, why the ‘higher for longer’ Fed narrative is over… 17.04.2023 39:18
In this episode we look at what is keeping gold at US$2,000 per ounce and how big bar demand is increasing despite the elevated price. We discuss managed money’s pivot into gold, how silver’s is riding both gold and copper’s coattails, and why the Fed’s higher for longer rate narrative is about to end. PODCAST INFO: ABC Refinery website: https://www.abcrefinery.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https...
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