fourcornersguides
The Packrafting Life (aka A Beginner’s Guide to Packrafting)
In ”A Beginner’s Guide to Packrafting & Bikerafting,” Four Corners Guides owner Lizzy Scully interviews head guides Steve ”Doom” Fassbinder and Thad Ferrell, along with many special guests, to answer all your pertinent packrafting and bikerafting questions. We’ll also share fireside chats and fun adventure stories. Have questions, comments or suggestions, email us at fourcornersguides@gmail.com or follow us on Instagram at https://www.instagram.com/fourcornersguides/
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Apr 23, 2026
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Packrafting Throw Bag Showdown: Best Lightweight Rescue Ropes, with 4CRS Owner Tony Miely 23.04.2026 13:37
Host Lizzy Scully and guest Tony Miely test and review lightweight throw bags for packrafting and kayaking, examining deployment, rope type, mouth openness, waist‑pack options, weight, and re‑stowing ease. They compare models from ultralight to guide‑grade, discuss pros and cons and price points, and recommend which bags work best for different paddling situations (guiding versus personal). For mo...
🎧Episode #17: Packrafting Scotland - Callum Lewis, The Wild, Wacky, River-Loving Owner of Scotland's Packraft Guide Service 17.04.2026 42:42
Callum Lewis started Packrafting Scotland just a couple years ago with friend Jack, to fill a growing niche and because every day on the river is a great day. In episode #17 we chat about how, when and why he started his new guide service. We explore the various rivers on which they guide, along with big adventures Callum plans to do on the rivers and lochs of Scotland. And we laugh a lot about Sc...
🎧Episode #16: Packraft Maine's Alejandro Strong on NE Bikerafting Routes & The Growth of East Coast Packrafting 27.01.2026 48:44
In episode #16 of The Packrafting Life, Lizzy Scully chats with Packraft Maine's Alejandro Strong about his love of bikerafting, the new route he is establishing across his adopted state, the growth of the sport on the East Coast, the plethora of opportunities to packraft within a few hours of where he lives, and the origins of his guide service. They also discuss Alejandro's efforts to get more f...
🎧Episode #15! Gender Differences in Learning, Teaching & Packraft Course Creation with Jule Harle & Sarah Histand 13.12.2025 1:12:18
Hey! This is Lizzy Scully, host of The Packrafting Life podcast. Welcome to episode #15. In this fascinating episode we look at scientific reasons behind the differences between how men and women learn, teach and how and why courses designed specifically for women or non-binary folks can be really beneficial, safe spaces for those folks to learn. This absolutely was my favorite discussion/intervi...
The Making of Be WaterWise: A Chat w/ Deane Parker about the APA's Series of 10 Safety Videos 11.10.2025 11:12
In this ten-minute pod short, Four Corners Guides owner Lizzy Scully & filmmaker Deane Parker discuss the American Packrafting Association's new Be WaterWise series of 10 safety videos, recently launched through the APA Website & YouTube channel . Deane worked with the APA, the Packrafting Assoc. of New Zealand and numerous experts in the industry to develop these 10 short videos highlight...
🎧Episode #14: The Wonders, Dangers & Realities of La Venta River + New Guide Service Packraft Mexico - a chat w/ Rod Alfonzo 30.08.2025 51:57
In this episode, Lizzy interviews Rodrigo Alfonzo a Level 3 American Canoe Association Packraft Instructor and Level 4 Swiftwater certified, discussing his journey into packrafting and the significance of La Venta River, including its wonders, dangers and realities. They emphasize community involvement, safety and/or ACA training for local guides and communities, and the importance of preserving n...
Happy Pride Month! Let's Talk Being Queer in the Packrafting & Greater Outdoor Community w/ LGBTQ+ Outdoors Founder Justin Yoder & Ambassador Justin Bickley 28.05.2025 1:10:45
In celebration of Pride Month, I dedicate this episode of The Packrafting Life to queer folks. ~Lizzy Scully, CEO Four Corners Guides And according to AI (but with some edits )... In this episode, host Lizzy Scully dives deep into the intersection of queer identity and the great outdoors. Joined by guests Justin Yoder, founder of LGBTQ+ Outdoors, and Justin Bickley, an ambassador & packrafter,...
Episode #12 Leveling Up in Packrafting: When, How, What to Look Out For, with Dan Thurber 21.03.2025 1:21:32
Introduction In Episode 12 of The Packrafting Life (aka A Beginner’s Guide to Packrafting), Lizzy talks with Dan Thurber, primarily about leveling up in packrafting, but also about his paddling life and various other fun things. Dan was one of Lizzy’s first mentors in packrafting, teaching her much in various courses and also on a 14-day trip on the Grand Canyon. She continues to look to him for a...
Packraft Design: The Process of Creating High-Performance Inflatable Boats, with Design Engineer Dustin Partridge 07.02.2025 1:08:43
At the end of 2024 we snagged an interview with Alpacka Raft Design Engineer Dustin Partridge before he left for three months of packrafting in Patagonia, Chile. We're super stoked on Episode #11, the first full episode of 2025. Dustin is Alpacka Raft founder/owner Sheri Tingey’s right hand man, and a long-time employee at Alpacka. He came on board as the 15th or 16th employee and worked his way f...
Pod Clip - The International Packrafting Film Festival, an interview with Jule Harle 09.01.2025 14:19
For more information on the film fest, to be a sponsor or to show the film in your town, please email packraftfilmfest@gmail.com or visit their website: https://www.packraftfilmfest.com/
A Quick, Non-Technical Look at the Alpacka Raft Mage 01.01.2025 10:15
Please note this is a non-technical look at the Mage, where I compare how it *feels* compared to the Wolverine and the Gnarwhal. On January 6th, we’re publishing Episode #11 of, A Beginner’s Guide to Packrafting , featuring one of Alpacka Raft’s designers, Dustin Partridge. In it, Dustin offers a more technical description of the Mage versus the Valykyrie. You can also find out more technical spe...
Episode #10: Thor Tingey Talks Hunting & Fly Fishing & How Packrafts Fit Into the Mix 12.12.2024 50:03
In Episode #10 of, A Beginner's Guide to Packrafting & Bikerafting, we talk with Alpacka Raft co-owner, Thor Tingey, about the hunt packrafting and packraft fly fishing scene. We start by discussing his background in those two activities and how Alpacka Raft’s hunt and fish boats developed along with changing hunting trends generally, along with Alaskan trends toward minimalism and packrafts a...
Packraft Fly Fishing in Colorado & the Arctic Wildlife Refuge, Plus Tips on Packraft Fly Fishing with guide Thad Ferrell 05.11.2024 1:00:01
In Episode #9 we dive into packraft fly fishing with guide Thad Ferrell. Thad was an early adopter of packrafts, and a longtime cyclist, rock climber and fly fisherman. He recently packrafted the Kongakut River in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge in Alaska to fly fish for char. In this episode we talk about how Thad got started with fly fishing and guiding, his multi-sport adventures, his new v...
Whitewater Bikerafting New Zealand with Deane Parker 09.10.2024 42:54
In Episode #8 of, "A Beginner’s Guide to Packrafting & Bikerafting," Deane Parker talks about how he got into pairing bikes and packrafts on pretty hardcore whitewater from the get-go, in addition to his history kayaking and rafting Class V rapids, his raft guiding business in the 90s, his mountain bike adventures, his filming projects through Deane Parker Adventure Channel, and his family far...
Seeking Wild Adventures? 1st Descents? Good Beer? Try Packrafting New Zealand 29.08.2024 48:55
Episode #7, A Beginner's Guide to Packrafting & Bikerafting Starting today and through fall we’ll be sharing stories, podcasts, videos and photos focusing on international packrafting adventures. We'll explore places we guide or will be guiding, such as La Venta River in Chiapas, Mexico, and Chilean Patagonia. But also some places we are not guiding, such as Tajikistan and beyond. February 202...
Healing Adventure Trauma: Julia Yanker on How Adventurers Can Get Back Into the Activities They Love 25.07.2024 1:05:32
For Episode #6 of A Beginner’s Guide to Packrafing & Bikerafing, we did interview with Julia Yanker, a long-time packrafter, life coach and Somatic Experiencing Practitioner, aka trauma resolution specialist. My primary goal with chatting with Julia was to really find out what can be done for adventurers who experienced trauma that now affects the other adventures they partake in. I had a ter...
Podcast #5: Luc Mehl on Close Calls, & How Knowing More About Them Can Enhance Packrafting Safety ++ His Safety Tool Kit 25.04.2024 59:43
PLEASE NOTE. WE DO NOT KNOW WHY THIS SHOW ISN'T UPLOADING IN ITS ENTIRETY TO SPOTIFY. PLEASE LISTEN TO IT ON PODBEAN. LINK BELOW. Luc Mehl on The Risks & Rewards of Leveling Up in Packrafting, What Close Calls Are & How Knowing More About Them Can Make Our Play Safer, Plus His Safety Tool Kit Today we’re talking with one of the most interesting and accomplished guys in the world of pa...
Expedition Packrafting & More with Jeff Creamer, SSI Instructor & Alpacka Raft Boat Tester 13.03.2024 46:22
Today, for our fourth episode, we’re bringing you an interview with Jeff Creamer, a Swiftwater Safety Institute Instructor and a boat tester and boat maker at Alpacka Raft. Jeff is one of America’s top packrafters, having done numerous remote, challenging expeditions on up to Class V whitewater in the mountains, along with some creative trips pairing boats and skis. We are stoked this year, as Jef...
A Chat with Alaska Packraft School's Jule Harle on How Women Learn Differently from Men & More 19.01.2024 34:07
In the third episode of our Podcast, A Beginner’s Guide to Packrafting, Four Corners Guides owner Lizzy Scully talks with renowned Packraft Instructor Jule Harle. A long-time kayaker and packrafter and owner of Alaska Packraft School, Jule has been instrumental in legitimizing packrafting as a sport through her work as a guide and her work with others to get the American Canoe Association packraft...
Whitewater Packrafting Gear: Recommendations From an Expert 10.12.2023 23:06
In the second episode of A Beginner's Guide to Packrafting (& Bikerafting), Tony Miely talks whitewater gear for packrafters. While he doesn't review the full spectrum of gear available (that would be a 5-hour video!), he talks about some of the basic gear that people need to get started with whitewater boating. Tony is one of the long-time owners of 4Corners Riversports, the premier boating...
A Chat With Steve ”Doom” Fassbinder About All Sorts of Packrafting Things 21.11.2023 27:05
In this episode, Four Corners Guides Head Guide Steve Fassbinder discusses his packrafting history, how he gained experience & his packrafting kit (boats, PFDs, helmets & drysuits, etc). Doom offers tips for beginners, emphasizing the importance of honesty & communication when paddling with others, plus advice on choosing appropriate rivers & trips based on skill level, the benefit...
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