The Ownership Economy

The Ownership Economy

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Welcome to the Ownership Economy podcast, the podcast that explores the people and ideas that are utilizing technology, economics, and the law to reimagine how the economy can work for everyone. Here we connect with the entrepreneurs, investors, thought-leaders, academics, and politicians that are constructing a better economy, one based on broad-based ownership and democratic governance. Hosted by Martin Smith and Jahed Momand, two investors and operators that aim to use this platform to showcase the people and ideas that will shape more inclusive economies.

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www.ownershipeconomy.com

Latest episode

Sep 16, 2025

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Episodes

Episode 038 - Building Local Communities Amidst Global Token Flows, Optimizing for Presence with Charlie Fisher from OASA 28.10.2022

In this episode of the Ownership Economy, we talk with Charlie Fisher, a researcher and entrepreneur that is working to build regenerative communities through an interesting new model based on the concept of “proof of presence”. Charlie walks us through the history of community land trusts and how this legal and economic structure is being reimagined through shared governance and ownership. The di...

Episode 037 - What a Molecular Gastronomist Can Teach You About Building Empowered Communities and Organizations, with Daniel Ospina of RnDAO 21.10.2022

In this week’s episode of the Ownership Economy, Jahed and Martin connect with Daniel Ospina from RnDAO. RnDAO is an innovation center funded by DAOs to serve DAOs, with a mission to empower humane collaboration. The organization works with projects to deeply understand DAOs and user challenges, so they can build tools that make decentralization fluid and natural, thus facilitating mainstream DAO...

Episode 036 - Creating Global Demand for Plastic Waste Reduction: The Plastiks Token and Business Model with Andre Vanyi-Robin 14.10.2022

In this episode of the Ownership Economy, we catch up with Andre Vanyi-Robin from Plastiks. Andre is working on a fascinating business model that aims to reduce plastic pollution around the world. Through a unique normalization of invoice data combined with smart contract technology, Andre is building a new market for plastic recovery guarantees. In the process, the venture is building new revenue...

Episode 035 - Web3, Operator-Investors, Venture-Contributors and the World of Web3 VC with Jake Lynch from L1 Digital 07.10.2022

In this episode of the Ownership Economy, Jahed and Martin speak with Jake Lynch from L1 Digital. Jake is a rare breed of researcher, operator, and investor and is working in the heart of the web3 ecosystem. L1 Digital invested in Molecule, a decentralized biotech protocol porting intellectual property into web3 and launching biotech DAOs. It is a deal that Jahed and Martin followed L1 Digital int...

Episode 034 - Optimal Timing for Launching a User-Aligned Ownership Program with Sascha Kellert from Rekursive Labs 30.09.2022

In this episode of the Ownership Economy, Jahed and Martin speak with Sascha Kellert from Rekursive Labs. Sascha is an entrepreneur with experience building multi-sided digital marketplaces. The experience of building a home-services marketplace and his unsuccessful attempt to convince his existing venture capital investors in that business to allocate ownership rights to vendors set him on the jo...

Episode 033 - Making the Transition from Web2 to Web3 as a Engineer and Operator with Golda Velez, Co-founder of What’s Cookin and Former Uber and Postmates Senior Engineer 24.09.2022

In this episode of the Ownership Economy, Jahed and Martin connect with Golda Velez, the Co-founder of WhatsCookin, an activity planning startup working to strengthen communities, create opportunities and democratize corporations. Golda comes from a background working as a senior software engineer in some of the largest web2 digital platforms. She worked on data at Uber, risk at Postmates, and hel...

Episode 032 - Building a Natural Asset Economy with Regenerative Finance, with Gregory Landua of Regen Network 16.09.2022

In episode 032, Martin and Jahed chat with Gregory Landua, CEO of Regen Network. Gregory has a long history in regenerative finance before it became the web3 incarnation of #ReFi. He covers the roots of regenerative finance in the permaculture movement, traces its intellectual history, introduces key concepts necessary to understand the new economy being built in natural assets, and introduces us...

Episode 031 - Tokenized Communities and Creator Ownership, with Jihad Esmail of ForefrontDAO 14.09.2022

The previous wave of internet innovation created a new economy, but left many creators out of it. Tokenized communities, some of which are organized as DAOs, are the next attempt at trying to broadly distribute and own the wealth generated by communities of creators. Jihad Esmail of ForefrontDAO is at the forefront of trying to figure out how to build new, sustainable organizational structures for...

Episode 030 - How to Unleash a Culture of Innovation in Your DAO with Liberating Structures, with Jeremy Akers of Regens Unite 02.09.2022

In the middle of the current bear market, DAOs are still surviving and sometimes thriving. One of the keys is social, emotional, and operational support, and in this week’s episode, Jahed sat down with Jeremy akers of Regens Unite, GravityDAO, Commons Stack, and LS DAO to discuss how the framework for unleashing team innovation, Liberating Structures, can be used by DAOs to get themselves through...

Episode 029 - Ownership, Individuality, and Sybil Attacks: A Conversation with Octopus, GitcoinDAO Contributor 26.08.2022

It’s summer for us at the Ownership Economy Podcast, so we’re bringing you a short series of wide-ranging episodes, which are more conversational in nature. We start this week with anonymous GitcoinDAO contributor @8octopuso, who is a mathematics PhD and worked on the systems for public funding distribution and governance at Gitcoin. In the conversation, we cover sybil attacks, how they can be a t...

Episode 028 - Sharing Wealth by Realigning Incentives in Real Estate, with David Lidz of StreetWell 19.08.2022

In this episode, Martin & Jahed sat down with David Lidz, an entrepreneur building an impact real estate company that employs those in recovery and convicts looking for their way back into society. David has managed to innovate at the intersection of real estate, technology, and social / political realms by finding a way to give people upside in restoration and ownership of properties in the c...

Episode 027 - Empowering Local Providers with Efficient Development Finance Facilitated through Web3 with Dr. Melyn McKay 12.08.2022

In this episode, Martin and Jahed connect with Dr. Melyn McKay, the founder and CEO of CoalaPay, a direct funding platform that connects users to trusted, grassroots actors working to sustain and strengthen their communities. Dr. McKay is an anthropologist by training and has spent years working in emerging markets with some of the largest institutional donors in the world. She is now bringing tha...

Episode 026 - Decentralized Finance: Stability vs Effiiency in Design of a More Equitable Financial System with Dr. Hamid Rashid Part 2 05.08.2022

In this week’s episode of the Ownership Economy, Jahed and Martin where joined by UN macroeconomist Dr. Hamid Rashid.. In this episode, we start out of a recap of Episode 11 where we explored the impact of monetary policy on the ownership economy. We recommend listening to that episode first before this deep dive on the tension between stability and efficiency in the design of decentralized financ...

Episode 025 - Building Resilience and Democratic Access to Finance by Preserving Cash with Brett Scott 22.07.2022

In this week’s episode, Jahed and Martin sit down with Brett Scott, author of https://www.harpercollins.com/products/cloudmoney-brett-scott?variant=39727615180834https://www.harpercollins.com/products/cloudmoney-brett-scott?variant=39727615180834 In the book, Scott guides the reader through the undercurrents of the banking and technology industries to create a compelling argument on how the two ar...

Episode 024 - Investing in and Building the New Open Internet with Dermot O'Riordan of Eden Block 16.07.2022

In this episode, Jahed and Martin sit down with Dermot O'Riordan, a Partner at Eden Block who is focused on supporting and building what they refer to as the new Open Internet. In the course of the conversation, we dive into how new, efficient markets in compute, machine learning, and other sectors of technology can actually democratize access to the services that result from innovation in web3, t...

Episode 023 - Web3 and the Transition to Stakeholder Aligned, Democratic Institutions with Patrick Rawson 08.07.2022

In this episode of the The Ownership Economy, Jahed and Martin talk about how institutions are built, how to make them more inclusive, and the tension between global economies and local empowerment. The conversation has implications for how we construct companies, but also how more inclusive and vibrant democracies could be realized.

Episode 022 - Scaling Regenerative Economies with Local Currencies and New Markets in Natural Assets, with Luuk Weber of Kolektivo 01.07.2022

In this episode, Jahed and Martin sit down with Luuk Weber of Kolektivo to dive into the opportunity for regenerative, non-extractive economic designs built on tokenization of natural capital assets and localist economic principles. Luuk's story starts in Curaçao where he experienced the consequences of living on an island whose currency is pegged to the dollar, and the vicissitudes that come alon...

Episode 021 - Evolving the Venture Capital Model in web3 to Distribute Wealth to Awesome People, with Julia Lipton of Awesome People Ventures 24.06.2022

In this episode, Jahed and Martin connect with Julia Lipton, the founder of Awesome People Ventures. Julia cut her teeth in venture capital on a first fund working on the future of work. Her exposure to crypto and blockchain inspired her to position her second fund at the center of the ownership economy. Julia’s experience in web3 goes beyond her investment fund and she is also the founder of a DA...

Episode 020 - Decentralized Travel Marketplaces and How They Might Improve the Travel Industry, with Maksim Izmaylov of Winding Tree 17.06.2022

In this episode, Martin and Jahed sit down with Winding Tree founder Maksim Izmaylov and learn how the travel and hospitality industry works. It's not pretty—we dive into the economics of online travel agencies (OTAs), how they work, where their take rate comes from, and how consumers win while most community businesses and even airlines lose. Winding Tree is building a multi-stakeholder platform...

Episode 019 - Undefining Money and Redefining Value, with Christopher Goes of Anoma Network 10.06.2022

In this episode, Jahed and Martin sit down with Christopher Goes who is building Anoma Network with Heliax. In the conversation, we cover definitions of money, what new definitions of money co-designed with local context can unlock in terms of value for communities, what the design space of money is, and promise and perils of privacy-shielded transactions. Show Notes: An Overview of Anoma's Archit...

Episode 018 - Co-creation and Co-ownership in DAOs and Co-ops with Metalabel founder Austin Robey 03.06.2022

In this episode, Martin and Jahed connect with Austin Robey, founder of one of the first platform tech co-ops Ampled, and a prolific doer and thinker when it comes to self-managing organizations. We cover the full gamut of self-management, from Austin's formative experiences with co-operatives in his neighborhood in New York, bootstrapping and sharing ownership in the music platform Ampled, to his...

Episode 017 - Identity, Security, Reputation, and Control: Crafting Free Societies with Decentralized Identity Protocols with Jaya Klara Brekke 27.05.2022

In this episode, Jahed and Martin spoke with Dr. Jaya Klara Brekke, a researcher on the political economy of blockchains at Durham University and Chief Strategy Officer at Nymtech. Nymtech is reimagining a world where resilient digital platforms and ecosystems and individual privacy are not mutually exclusive. We connected with Dr. Brekke on a variety of topics including identity, security, contro...

Episode 016 - Beyond State and Market, Building Ecosystems in the Commons with Tamara Helenius 20.05.2022

In this episode, Jahed and Martin connected with Tamara Helenius, who is a Program Manager at the Commons Stack and Steward in the Token Engineering Commons. In an earlier episode, we spoke with Jeff Emmett at the Commons Stack about token engineering. In this episode, we discuss the human side of building ecosystems, commons and companies that embrace decentralization. It builds on the conversati...

Episode 015 - Mutual Credit on the Blockchain: Building Local Resilient Economies with David Casey 13.05.2022

In this episode, Jahed and Martin talked with David Casey, the Founder and CEO of Resource Network. Trained in political economy, David spent nearly a decade thinking about how to build local, mutually supported communities in the real world. He is a co-founder of Numundo, a network of ecovillages, intentional communities, permaculture farms and retreat centers. That experience informs his current...

Episode 014 - Patient-Owned and Aligned Healthcare Platforms with Dr. Jen Horonjeff 06.05.2022

In this episode, Jahed and Martin talked with Jen Horonjeff, the Founder and CEO of Savvy Cooperative. Jen has a truly interesting background, having worked in academia after completing a doctorate in Environmental Medicine, subsequently working as a consumer representative with the Food and Drug Administration in the USA, and even as a scout for an early stage venture fund. Dr. Horonjeff took her...

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