The Ordinary Elite

The Ordinary Elite is a Scottish podcast brought to you from Glasgow by John McGovern and Mike Dailly. Both are Solicitor Advocates - John a criminal defence lawyer and Mike a civil litigation practitioner and social justice campaigner. In episode 8 of Season 5, we discuss the High Court guilty plea this week by Peter Murrell of embezzling over £400,000 of SNP funds. Many people across Scotland, t...

The Ordinary Elite is a Scottish podcast brought to you from Glasgow by John McGovern and Mike Dailly. Both are Solicitor Advocates - John a criminal defence lawyer and Mike a civil litigation practitioner and social justice campaigner. In episode 7 of Season 5 we present our inaugural Holyrood eve of poll special. Who will be the winners and losers in tomorrow's Scottish Parliament elections?...

The Ordinary Elite is a Scottish podcast brought to you from Glasgow by John McGovern and Mike Dailly. Both are Solicitor Advocates - John a criminal defence lawyer and Mike a civil litigation practitioner and social justice campaigner. In episode 6 of Season 5 we speak with Paul Sweeney MSP about the recent fire which destroyed 175 years of Glasgow's history and cultural heritage on Union Str...

The Ordinary Elite is a Scottish podcast brought to you from Glasgow by John McGovern and Mike Dailly. Both are Solicitor Advocates - John a criminal defence lawyer and Mike a civil litigation practitioner and social justice campaigner. In episode 5 of Season 5 we meet Sari Bashi an Israeli-American human rights lawyer who petitions Israel's Supreme Court for her Palestinian client's right...

The Ordinary Elite is a Scottish podcast brought to you from Glasgow by John McGovern and Mike Dailly. Both are Solicitor Advocates - John a criminal defence lawyer and Mike a civil litigation practitioner and social justice campaigner. In episode 3 of Season 5 we discuss the independent review of NHS Scotland written by consultant surgeon, Mr Mike McKirdy, former President of the Royal College of...

The Ordinary Elite is a Scottish podcast brought to you from Glasgow by John McGovern and Mike Dailly. Both are Solicitor Advocates - John a criminal defence lawyer and Mike a civil litigation practitioner and social justice campaigner. In episode 3 of Season 5 we discuss Paul Holden's new book. The Fraud shows how Keir Starmer has been the frontman for a ruthless, right-wing political project...

The Ordinary Elite is a Scottish podcast brought to you from Glasgow by John McGovern and Mike Dailly. Both are Solicitor Advocates - John a criminal defence lawyer and Mike a civil litigation practitioner and social justice campaigner. In episode 2 of Season 5 we consider the recent mass protests and political unrest in Iran. We speak with Kate Phillips. Kate is a retired international developmen...

The Ordinary Elite is a Scottish podcast brought to you from Glasgow by John McGovern and Mike Dailly. Both are Solicitor Advocates - John a criminal defence lawyer and Mike a civil litigation practitioner and social justice campaigner. In episode 1 of Season 5, we chat with Scott Wortley a lecturer at Edinburgh University's Law School. Scott has a particular interest and expertise in drafting...

The Ordinary Elite is a Scottish podcast brought to you from Glasgow by John McGovern and Mike Dailly. Both are Solicitor Advocates - John a criminal defence lawyer and Mike a civil litigation practitioner and social justice campaigner. In our final episode of Season 4, we provide some reflection and thoughts on Hogmanay of the shows we've done during 2025. We hope you will enjoy. We would lik...

The Ordinary Elite is a Scottish podcast brought to you from Glasgow by John McGovern and Mike Dailly. Both are Solicitor Advocates - John a criminal defence lawyer and Mike a civil litigation practitioner and social justice campaigner. In our 12th episode of Season 4, we're joined by Dean M Thomson, a lecturer in logic and philosophy with Beijing Normal - Hong Kong Baptist University, United...

The Ordinary Elite is a Scottish podcast brought to you from Glasgow by John McGovern and Mike Dailly. Both are Solicitor Advocates - John a criminal defence lawyer and Mike a civil litigation practitioner and social justice campaigner. In our 11th episode of Season 4, we are we're joined by Annmarie Ward, the founder and CEO of the charity Faces & Voices of Recovery UK (FAVOR UK). Last mo...

The Ordinary Elite is a Scottish podcast brought to you from Glasgow by John McGovern and Mike Dailly. Both are Solicitor Advocates - John a criminal defence lawyer and Mike a civil litigation practitioner and social justice campaigner. In our 10th episode of Season 4, we discuss Glasgow homeless crisis. We're joined by Homeless Project Scotland's (HPS) Colin McInnes who runs a night shelt...

The Ordinary Elite is a Scottish podcast brought to you from Glasgow by John McGovern and Mike Dailly. Both are Solicitor Advocates - John a criminal defence lawyer and Mike a civil litigation practitioner and social justice campaigner. In our 9th episode of Season 4, we discuss the ongoing genocide and famine in Gaza with acclaimed Scottish screenwriter, Paul Laverty and Legal Partner at Govan La...

The Ordinary Elite is a Scottish podcast brought to you from Glasgow by John McGovern and Mike Dailly. Both are Solicitor Advocates - John a criminal defence lawyer and Mike a civil litigation practitioner and social justice campaigner. In our 8th episode of Season 4, we consider some of this week's book reviews of Nicola Sturgeon's new autobiography, "Frankly". The book hasn't went down so well i...

The Ordinary Elite is a Scottish podcast brought to you from Glasgow by John McGovern and Mike Dailly. Both are Solicitor Advocates - John a criminal defence lawyer and Mike a civil litigation practitioner and social justice campaigner. In our 7th episode of Season 4, we talk to Sharif Abdel Kouddous, a journalist and Middle East editor at Drop Site News. The United Nations has today warned that t...

The Ordinary Elite is a Scottish podcast brought to you from Glasgow by John McGovern and Mike Dailly. Both are Solicitor Advocates - John a criminal defence lawyer and Mike a civil litigation practitioner and social justice campaigner. In our 6th episode of Season 5, we are back from our summer holidays! We consider the numerous policy failures and woes that Prime Minister Keir Starmer now faces;...

The Ordinary Elite is a Scottish podcast brought to you from Glasgow by John McGovern and Mike Dailly. Both are Solicitor Advocates - John a criminal defence lawyer and Mike a civil litigation practitioner and social justice campaigner. In our 5th episode of Season 5, we examine Scotland's energy policy with Dr. Ewan Gibbs. Ewan is a lecturer in Global Inequalities at the University of Glasgow...

The Ordinary Elite is a Scottish podcast brought to you from Glasgow by John McGovern and Mike Dailly. Both are Solicitor Advocates - John a criminal defence lawyer and Mike a civil litigation practitioner and social justice campaigner. In our 4th episode of Season 4, we consider this week's judgment of the UK Supreme Court in For Women Scotland v the Scottish Ministers. The Scottish Governmen...

The Ordinary Elite is a Scottish podcast brought to you from Glasgow by John McGovern and Mike Dailly. Both are Solicitor Advocates - John a criminal defence lawyer and Mike a civil litigation practitioner and social justice campaigner. In our 3rd episode of Season 4, we examine the race to the economic bottom with President Trump's tariff's wars. We also look at the political achievements...

The Ordinary Elite is a Scottish podcast brought to you from Glasgow by John McGovern and Mike Dailly. Both are Solicitor Advocates - John a criminal defence lawyer and Mike a civil litigation practitioner and social justice campaigner. In our 2nd episode of Season 4, we talk with Cllr Thomas Kerr - a Glasgow city councillor who left the Tories to join Reform UK earlier this year. Thomas was joine...

The Ordinary Elite is a Scottish podcast brought to you from Glasgow by John McGovern and Mike Dailly. Both are Solicitor Advocates - John a criminal defence lawyer and Mike a civil litigation practitioner and social justice campaigner. In our 1st episode of Season 4, we consider the performance of Chancellor Rachel Reeves and Prime Minister Keir Starmer. The last 7 months has been the world's...

The Ordinary Elite is a Scottish podcast brought to you from Glasgow by John McGovern and Mike Dailly. Both are Solicitor Advocates - John a criminal defence lawyer and Mike a civil litigation practitioner and social justice campaigner. In our 12th episode of Season 3, we present our eve of Hogmanay, Year in Review. We look at of the ups and downs of politics in Scotland & the UK in 2024. We h...

The Ordinary Elite is a Scottish podcast brought to you from Glasgow by John McGovern and Mike Dailly. Both are Solicitor Advocates - John a criminal defence lawyer and Mike a civil litigation practitioner and social justice campaigner. In our 11th episode of Season 3, we discuss wars and human rights atrocities in the Middle East with Israeli journalist and author, Gideon Levy. Gideon writes opin...

The Ordinary Elite is a Scottish podcast brought to you from Glasgow by John McGovern and Mike Dailly. Both are Solicitor Advocates - John a criminal defence lawyer and Mike a civil litigation practitioner and social justice campaigner. In our 10th episode of Season 3, we discuss current political issues in the UK and beyond with Jon Trickett MP. Jon was the only Labour MP to vote against the cut...

The Ordinary Elite is a Scottish podcast brought to you from Glasgow by John McGovern and Mike Dailly. Both are Solicitor Advocates - John a criminal defence lawyer and Mike a civil litigation practitioner and social justice campaigner. In our 9th episode of Season 3, we discuss the UK Government's first Labour budget with former Shadow Chancellor of the Exchequer, John McDonald MP. Will Labour's...