Drs. Tricia Bertram Gallant & David Rettinger
The Opposite of Cheating
The Opposite of Cheating Podcast shares the real life experiences, thoughts, and talents of educators and professionals who are working to teach for integrity in the age of AI. The series features engaging conversations with brilliant innovators, teachers, leaders, and practitioners who are both resisting and integrating GenAI into their lives. The central value undergirding everything is, of course, integrity!
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Drs. Tricia Bertram Gallant & David Rettinger
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May 27, 2026
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Episodes
The Opposite of Cheating Podcast (Season 2) Episode 62: Finale 27.05.2026 10:32
Join me, Tricia, as I cap off Season 2 with 5 key lessons learned and some notes of appreciation.
The Opposite of Cheating (Season 2) Episode 61: Jessa Kirk 18.05.2026 32:33
"We don't all have to embrace AI as many of us are being told to. But we should be prepared to consider different perspectives and change the way that we're doing things if we're finding that something's not working.""You might think that you're being kind by bending the rules for a student when actually that's modeling something that you don't want your...
The Opposite of Cheating Podcast (Season 2) Episode 60: Loretta Goff 11.05.2026 34:20
"The general tools are not built for learning. You have to really know what you're doing to use them. It's very easy to end up being led by them because of the way they communicate.""If I had the magic wand, it would give everyone the time and the resources to really be able to focus on how they're teaching and how they're assessing."In this 60th episode of The...
The Opposite of Cheating Podcast (Season 2) Episode 59: Joe Clare 05.05.2026 38:18
"There are actually things I can do and it's empowering I think for academics at a time where it can feel a bit overwhelming — there's actually a range of things that we can do.""The thing you can try and limit is the extent to which opportunity exists within the assessment items and the structure of the things you're doing in your unit."In this 59th episode of The Opposite of Cheating Podcast, Da...
The Opposite of Cheating Podcast (Season 2) Episode 58: Jason Stephens 27.04.2026 34:47
"Our tendency to deceive and our tendency to make moral judgments — both of these things are bred in the bone. These things live in tension inside of us.""I'm working on what I call a wise model of use — where I want to help students balance outsourcing stuff that's appropriate to outsource versus offloading the stuff I really should be engaging in because learning is diffic...
The Opposite of Cheating Podcast (Season 2) Episode 57: Kelly Ahuna 20.04.2026 31:39
"The future of the asynchronous online class, I think, is really in jeopardy. The classes are fine, but the assessments are completely cooked.""We're not going to win this on compliance. We're not going to win this with students because we say, 'We told you not to.' We have to win it on the value of learning."In this 57th episode of The Opposite of Cheating Podc...
The Opposite of Cheating Podcast (Season 2) Episode 56: Emily Perkins 13.04.2026 29:55
"I need to find ways to trust them more and invite them to invest in their learning more at this point.""Are we going to be moving away from writing labs and designing more thinking labs when it comes to the classroom?"In this episode of The Opposite of Cheating Podcast, David sits down with Dr. Emily Perkins, Associate Director of the Writing Center at Le Moyne College, for a...
The Opposite of Cheating Podcast (Season 2) Episode 55: Mary Davis & Zeenath Khan 06.04.2026 44:39
"The shift needs to be about internalizing that [ethical] responsibility within the student." "Do you want to go up and upskill and continue focusing on your learning or do you want to go down and downskill and reduce or eliminate your learning?" In this 55th episode of The Opposite of Cheating Podcast, Tricia is joined by her co-authors Mary Davis (Oxford Brookes University) a...
The Opposite of Cheating Podcast (Season 2) Episode 54: Adam Pryor 30.03.2026 51:33
"AI risks becoming that proverbial situation where everything looks like a nail because you've got a hammer in your hand.""The arcane mechanisms of an industrial age model of education that were meant to make human beings who efficiently produced for machines doesn't exist anymore."In this 54th episode of The Opposite of Cheating Podcast, Tricia sits down with Adam Pryo...
The Opposite of Cheating Podcast (Season 2) Episode 53: Carter Moulton 23.03.2026 41:02
“We're hearing a lot about efficiency and personalization and we're not hearing about things like care, transparency, and, intention.” “Our students are being bombarded with media messages about AI and help and what does help mean? That's such a loaded term.” In this 53rd episode of The Opposite of Cheating Podcast, Tricia talks with Carter Moulton, a faculty developer at Colorado Scho...
The Opposite of Cheating Podcast (Season 2) Episode 52: Mary-Claire Kennedy & Justin Tonra 16.03.2026 43:42
“I am hopeful about is the the increasing degree to which I've encountered students in in this academic year who are thinking more critically about generative AI use.”“I think pessimistically this is going to take a decade to sort out to find an equilibrium of how we proceed here.”In this 52nd episode of The Opposite of Cheating Podcast, Tricia is joined by fellow "hopeful pessimists"...
The Opposite of Cheating Podcast (Season 2) Episode 51: Lew Ludwig & Todd Zakrajsek 09.03.2026 33:14
“We didn't ask for this, right? We didn't ask for this unregulated, unchecked technology just keep pouring on us every two weeks"“Learning is hard. Learning is work.”In the 51st episode of the podcast, Tricia reconnects with Lew Ludwig (from Episode 27) and welcomes Todd Zakrajsek to discuss their forthcoming book The Science of Learning Meets AI. Instead of spending time chasing tools, Lew and To...
The Opposite of Cheating Podcast (Season 2) Episode 50: 1st Year Bookiversary Special with Greer Murphy 02.03.2026 39:16
“People with integrity aren't perfect. They make mistakes, but the what differentiates them from other folks is that they take accountability for those mistakes and they choose to learn and grow from them.” “Also expect some of the stuff to fail miserably, right? Because nothing nothing complicated or worth doing works. the first time.” This special episode (#50) marks the first anniversary of...
The Opposite of Cheating Podcast (Season 2) Episode 49: Jason Lodge 23.02.2026 36:43
"You can't have an aha moment unless you go through a period of being stuck or struggling or confused before you get there.”“AI will help you get to the finish line, but it's not going to give you the kind of work related positive impact that you would have by going through that process yourself.”In this 49th episode of The Opposite of Cheating Podcast, David is joined by Professor Ja...
The Opposite of Cheating Podcast (Season 2) Episode 48: Craig Zilles 22.02.2026 39:05
“I’m an AI optimist long-term—but it’s creating an enormous problem in the short term around assessment.”“The automation allows us to shift the humans to do those things humans do better—like inspiration and one-on-one interaction.”In this 48th episode of The Opposite of Cheating Podcast, Craig Zilles (Computer Science Professor, University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign) shares a compelling case fo...
The Opposite of Cheating Podcast (Season 2) Episode 47: Ronald Lethcoe 16.02.2026 35:30
“We would be doing a disservice to the students if we didn’t at least include AI in the conversation as an institution.”“Digital adaptability — being able to navigate this digital space that’s always changing — is the skill that’s going to be beneficial for anybody in the future.”In this 47th episode of The Opposite of Cheating Podcast, Ronald Lethcoe reflects on what it means to build AI literacy...
The Opposite of Cheating Podcast (Season 2) Episode 46: Soroush Sabbaghan 02.02.2026 40:05
“Every time you engage with these systems, you gain something—but you also lose something.”“Human agency is your capability to make informed decisions, to act with intention, and to exercise judgment.”What happens when the red lines we draw around generative AI start to blur? In this 46th episode of The Opposite of Cheating, Dr. Soroush Sabbaghan reflects on how he’s crossed the lines he once swor...
The Opposite of Cheating Podcast (Season 2) Episode 45: Nick Potkalitsky 26.01.2026 42:33
“We missed the mark with social media. We can’t miss it with AI.” “College has to reach down and figure out what students are actually learning instead of just existing in this gap space and resenting K–12.” In this episode, Nick Potkalitsky offers a K–12 lens on AI Literacy, reflecting on how schools, students, and parents are navigating this moment of rapid change—without repeating the mistakes...
The Opposite of Cheating Podcast (Season 2) Episode 44: Karen Costa 19.01.2026 44:22
“I have many conflicted feelings about AI, but talking to kind, curious people seems to help.” “What does academic integrity mean when there are multi-billion dollar companies with armies of people whose job it is to make cheating irresistible?” In this deeply personal and reflective episode of The Opposite of Cheating Podcast (44), Karen Costa shares what it means to teach for integrity in asynch...
The Opposite of Cheating Podcast (Season 2) Episode 43: Tim Fawns 12.01.2026 35:23
“We need to be a little bit careful—if we put all our eggs in the assurance and academic integrity basket, then we’re at risk of forgetting some of the other really important parts of education.” “Some of the ways in which we deal with academic integrity actually do the opposite of cultivating integrity.” What is academic integrity in 2025—and how do we build learning environments that support it?...
The Opposite of Cheating Podcast (Season 2) Episode 42: Marc Watkins 05.01.2026 38:33
“It was the first time I was introduced to the idea of academic integrity—because I had done something.”“Assessment is broken now that AI’s here. It probably wasn’t in great shape beforehand.”In this 42nd episode of The Opposite of Cheating Podcast, Tricia speaks with Marc Watkins, Assistant Director of Academic Innovation and Lecturer of Writing & Rhetoric at the University of Mississippi, an...
The Opposite of Cheating Podcast (Season 2) Episode 41: Thomas J. Tobin 15.12.2025 32:43
“I started out as an academic integrity prescriptivist. I was the hard-nosed.”“There’s really only three main ways that we can ask students to demonstrate academic integrity: Trust, Verification, Observation.”In this 41st episode of The Opposite of Cheating Podcast, David talks with Thomas J. Tobin, an educational developer and consultant with decades of experience, to challenge the punitive parad...
The Opposite of Cheating Podcast (Season 2) Episode 40: Emily Pitts Donahoe 08.12.2025 43:45
“It’s not: do you have integrity or do you not. It’s: are there conditions in place that allow people to act with integrity?” “One of the things that alternative grading can do is to help shift students’ focus from getting grades and generating products to learning and engaging in a learning process.” In this episode, educational developer and writing instructor Emily Pitts Donahoe of the Center f...
The Opposite of Cheating Podcast (Season 2) Episode 39: Sonny Ramaswamy 01.12.2025 41:39
"We've been loathed to change and evaluate ourselves, make sure that we're addressing these fundamental issues and we need to own it." "These are wicked problems and we have the knowledge and the ability, but we are headbutting not willing to come together and come up with a path forward." In this 39th episode of The Opposite of Cheating Podcast, Tricia speaks with Sonn...
The Opposite of Cheating Podcast (Episode 38): Hoda Mostafa & Maha Bali 24.11.2025 35:36
"The issue I have is honestly that AI itself is a thief of ideas and doesn't really attribute where it got it from." "When you disclose, you're unpacking your thinking and you're making your thinking visible." In this 38th episode, Dr. Tricia Bertram Gallant is joined by Hoda Mostafa and Maha Bali from the Center for Learning and Teaching at the American University...
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