Nick Reilly, Jason Robinson
The Numbers Game
The Numbers Game — It’s finance, investment and business but not as you know it. Each week Jason Robinson (CPA Accountant), Nick Reilly (Planner) come together to bring you strategy and advice around the importance of knowing your numbers in life and business. Numbers really do tell a story so let us help you make it a good one.
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Jul 5, 2026
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Episodes
Why Every Business Owner Needs a Tax Planning Meeting 01.06.2025 32:50
Thinking tax planning is just paperwork? Think again. In this episode, we unpack why proactive tax planning is a must for business owners—not just to save tax, but to boost cash flow, avoid nasty surprises, and build a stronger financial future. We break down structures, trust distributions, company loans, and real strategies to keep more money in your pocket. On this episode, we discuss: (00:00)...
How to Avoid Burnout and Still Grow Your Business 25.05.2025 29:00
Burnout is hitting business owners harder than ever. In this episode, we dive into the harsh realities behind the stats: why so many founders feel trapped in their own businesses, the difference between being a consultant and a business owner, and how to build a team without burning cash or yourself. If you’re wearing five hats and going nowhere fast, this one's for you! On this episode, we discus...
Dollar Cost Averaging - The Easiest Way to Build Wealth Over Time 18.05.2025 24:22
How do you build long-term wealth without trying to time the market? Today we break down the power of dollar cost averaging and why it’s a proven strategy for growing your investments, especially in volatile times. We unpack how it works, why superannuation does it so well, and how rebalancing and automation can help you stay disciplined and reduce risk. On this episode, we discuss: (00:00) Intro...
Knowing When to Quit in Business 11.05.2025 23:01
Are you pouring time, money, and energy into something that just isn’t working? Today we talk about the “dead horse” strategy and why people cling to bad ideas, failing partnerships, underperforming staff, or side hustles that should’ve ended long ago. We share real stories, hard-earned lessons, and practical tools to help you spot the signs early and move on before it costs you big. On this episo...
Adam Sullivan’s Hard Lessons: Division 7A, FBT & Avoiding Costly Mistakes in Business 04.05.2025 27:57
Adam Sullivan’s incredible rise in business revenue came with some serious financial lessons. Today we dive into Adams financial rollercoaster - how he scaled to $1.5M a month, bought an $11M mansion, and nearly came undone by Division 7A loans, tax traps, and flashy spending. We unpack the real costs of pulling money from your company, how fringe benefits tax can sting, and why financial literacy...
Holiday Homes Don’t Make Financial Sense in 2025 27.04.2025 25:22
Dreaming of owning a holiday home? Today we break down the true costs, hidden traps, and emotional pull of buying a weekender and why the numbers often don’t stack up. We explore smarter alternatives for lifestyle and wealth building, and share real strategies to enjoy more holidays without the financial stress. On this episode, we discuss: (00:00) Intro (00:35) Why buying a holiday home might not...
The Real Cost of Uni in Australia 20.04.2025 24:58
HELP debt is now a $80 billion problem for Australia, and it’s only getting bigger. Today we dive into how HECS/HELP debt really works, why it’s impacting borrowing capacity, and whether the system needs a major rethink. From free money myths to the true cost of uni, we unpack the long-term financial consequences and what needs to change. On this episode, we discuss: (00:00) Intro (00:38) What is...
Rethinking Property Tax in Australia 13.04.2025 28:00
Today we unpack one of Australia’s hottest property topics: negative gearing. We dive into what it actually is, how it works, and why it may not be the game changer many think it is. We also explore some bold new ideas to reform the system, including an interesting proposal to simplify how property profits are taxed. On this episode, we discuss: (00:00) Intro (00:55) Should We Scale Back Negative...
What Car Loans Are Really Costing You 06.04.2025 25:29
Thinking about financing your next car? We break down the real cost of car loans and why they could be one of the biggest threats to your long-term wealth. We compare the impact of car debt vs. property debt and explore smarter strategies that could save you hundreds of thousands (or even make you millions) in the long run. On this episode, we discuss: (00:00) Intro (00:55) Are Car Loans Destroyin...
Why You Need a Will 30.03.2025 24:55
What happens if you die without a will? We get into the real-life consequences of not having your estate plan sorted -family fallouts, lost inheritances, and fortunes in limbo. We go through what makes a valid will, how to get one done properly, and why putting one in place now could save your loved ones years of pain later. On this episode, we discuss: (00:00) Intro (00:48) Why Most People Put Of...
Hunter vs. Farmer and Fixing Your Sales Strategy 23.03.2025 33:19
Are you a hunter or a farmer when it comes to business and sales? In this episode, we break down two sales styles—hunters who chase new deals and farmers who nurture and grow existing clients—and why both are essential for a thriving business. We share real-world examples from accounting, financial planning, and mortgage broking, plus insights on hiring, training, and balancing your team for maxim...
How Much You Need To Retire And How To Get There 16.03.2025 32:17
How much do you need to retire, and are you on track to get there? We break down the simple formula to calculate your retirement number, the power of tracking your net worth, how to do it, and the key financial habits that will set you up for long-term success. Whether you're in your 20s, 40s, or nearing retirement, this episode will help you take control of your financial future. On this episode,...
Raising GST in Australia and Why it Would Work 09.03.2025 27:05
Should Australia raise the GST and lower income tax? Today, we dive into one of the most controversial tax reform ideas, exploring how increasing GST while cutting income tax could simplify the system, boost business, and create a fairer economy. We compare Australia’s tax system to other countries, discuss capital gains tax, corporate tax loopholes, and economic impacts, and break down why no pol...
Standing Out in a Dry Industry - Lessons from Liquid Death 02.03.2025 24:01
How do you stand out in a crowded industry and “murder the competition”? Today, we break down the wild success of Liquid Death, the canned water brand that turned a boring product into a billion-dollar business with edgy marketing and cult-like branding. We explore how bold branding, niche positioning, and creative marketing can apply to any business—even in industries like finance, accounting, an...
Buying Property with Super, What You Need to Know 23.02.2025 25:04
Thinking about buying property with your super? We go through the ins and outs of Self-Managed Super Funds (SMSFs), including why more people are setting them up, the benefits and tax advantages of owning property within an SMSF, and key compliance rules. We look at financing options, lending challenges, and strategies for business owners looking to rent their premises from their own super fund. O...
Building Passive Income through Property 16.02.2025 29:23
Is residential property investment still the best way to generate passive income, or is commercial real estate the smarter play? In this episode we get into the real challenges of investing in houses vs. commercial properties, using a real-life case study of a couple who built an $8M portfolio. We break down the pros, cons, and financial realities of both strategies—so you can decide which path le...
Is Home Ownership Becoming a Fantasy in Australia? 09.02.2025 29:34
Australia's property market is booming and now ranks among the world's most expensive. We compare property prices and wage growth between 2000 and 2025, looking at whether these trends can be sustained. what needs to change, and what strategies can actually help you own property. On this episode, we discuss: (00:00) Intro (00:21) How buying a home in 2000 compares to today's market (02:59) Propert...
Our 2025 Predictions 22.12.2024 41:50
Welcome to Episode 217 of The Numbers Game. In this episode, we reflect on our predictions from 2024 and get some new predictions in for 2025! Jason's prediction about AI becoming more embedded in business operations and daily activities proved accurate as well as Nick's notable prediction about Donald Trump's return to office. What will 2025 hold? Take a listen as we share our two cents! On this...
From Dreams to Reality 15.12.2024 24:09
Welcome to Episode 216 of The Numbers Game. In this episode, we dive into the power of vision boards and goal setting. We share our thoughts and experiences of vision boards, from initial skepticism to surprising success stories, and discuss how they can help clarify long-term goals while mapping out the practical steps needed to achieve them. On this episode, we discuss: Vision Boards The Power...
Surviving the Festive Financial Crunch 08.12.2024 21:55
Welcome to Episode 215 of The Numbers Game. In this episode, we look at the challenges facing small business owners around the Christmas period. Marty shares his personal experience with business cash flow struggles and how he managed to bridge the gap and push through to the New Year. We also look at key points to help your long term business success, such as the importance of managing cash flow,...
The Cost of Raising a Child 01.12.2024 23:39
Welcome to Episode 214 of The Numbers Game. In this episode, we welcome Nick back to the pod and catch up on his new journey into fatherhood. Nick shares his fresh experiences as a new dad and we get into broader discussions about the costs of raising children, the pros and cons of private versus public education and the economic and social factors shaping modern parenthood. On this episode, we di...
The Benefits of Being AI-Curious 24.11.2024 41:36
Welcome to Episode 213 of The Numbers Game. In this episode, we welcome back Producer Tommy to discuss how the increasing AI presence is changing the way we operate our businesses. We also look at the importance of being AI-curious to prepare your business for the rollout of future AI products. As Marty says, AI + EQ = opportunity. On this episode, we discuss: Adrian Portelli's Big Play on The Blo...
Will Trump Impact Australia? 17.11.2024 29:06
Welcome to Episode 212 of The Numbers Game. In this episode, we dive into American politics and gun culture through the eyes of our guest, Producer Tommy, who recently returned from filming a documentary across the United States. This episode provides valuable insights into the complexities of gun culture, politics, and social dynamics in the United States, encouraging listeners to look beyond th...
Understanding Financial Wellbeing 10.11.2024 27:41
Welcome to Episode 211 of The Numbers Game. In this episode, we get into financial wellbeing, exploring what it truly means beyond getting wealthy. We take you through the various stages of financial health - from turmoil to understanding and ultimately to flourishing. This episode is packed with valuable insights and practical tips to help you take control of your finances and build a stable fina...
Pre-Approve or Lose! 03.11.2024 23:55
Welcome to Episode 210 of The Numbers Game. In this episode, we look at the increased activity in the property market and how buyers should prepare themselves! Marty shares some exciting insights about the Melbourne market, highlighting a significant uptick in pre-approvals and property listings. We chat about getting organised, understanding your maximum borrowing capacity, and the steps involved...
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