Nick Reilly, Jason Robinson
The Numbers Game
The Numbers Game — It’s finance, investment and business but not as you know it. Each week Jason Robinson (CPA Accountant), Nick Reilly (Planner) come together to bring you strategy and advice around the importance of knowing your numbers in life and business. Numbers really do tell a story so let us help you make it a good one.
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Nick Reilly, Jason Robinson
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Nov 1, 2026
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Episodes
Petrol vs Electric Cars: How Much You Actually Save in 2026 10.05.2026 23:32
Fuel's up 70% and EV orders have tripled, so Jase did the numbers on what switching actually costs. The per-kilometre gap between petrol and electric is ten to one, and if you salary sacrifice an EV through your business, the FBT exemption stacks another $10K-$15K a year on top. If you're thinking about making the switch, this is the one to listen to. On this episode, we discuss: (00:00) Intro (00...
Six Years of Zero Growth, $786B Spent | Australia's Productivity Crisis 03.05.2026 26:37
Australia hasn't had real productivity growth in six years, but the government keeps spending more and taxing more to cover the gap. Nick goes through the federal budget numbers, what productivity actually means when you strip out the spin, and why the answer might not be another tax bracket or another levy, but actually spending less. On this episode, we discuss: (00:00) Intro (00:17) Free Public...
Are You on the ATO's Radar? | The Biggest Audit Triggers in 2026 26.04.2026 30:53
The ATO's audit hit list is out for 2026, and they've got more data on you than ever. Your bank, your crypto platform, your rental agent, your Instagram, they're matching it all against your return. This episode covers the real triggers that put you on their radar, and why using the ATO as a cheap line of credit just became one of the most expensive mistakes a business owner can make. On this epis...
$5.4 Trillion Is Changing Hands | Is Your Family Ready for the Tax Bill? 19.04.2026 25:02
$4 to $5.4 trillion is set to change hands in Australia's great wealth transfer, and most families have no idea how much tax is hiding in super, shares, and property along the way. Nick walks through a real client case where a 94-year-old with $5.3 million in assets was staring down a $300,000 tax bill for her kids, and the strategies that brought it right down. And with The Australia Institute no...
Leaving Australia for Tax Purposes? The ATO Already Knows Your Plan 12.04.2026 23:06
Moving to Dubai to pay less tax is all over social media, but leaving the Australian tax system is a lot harder than packing your bags. If you've ever looked at your tax bill and thought about leaving, the ATO is already tracking more than you think: your travel, your bank accounts, even your family ties. Jase is working with a client who's actually making the move, and walks through what it takes...
He Did Everything Right and Still Lost $70K | The First Home Buyer Trap 05.04.2026 24:14
A first-home buyer did everything by the book and still lost $70,000 in three and a half years. Nick walks through the real numbers on a $495,000 boutique apartment in Carnegie, from strata fees that more than doubled to the government grants you can only use once, and what it actually cost when it came time to sell. On this episode, we discuss: (00:00) Intro (00:23) Does Property Really Double Ev...
AI Agents Are Here and Your Business Needs a Plan 29.03.2026 25:46
AI agents are no longer just a buzzword. They're already automating real tasks in businesses and the speed of change is only accelerating. We share firsthand examples of how AI is boosting productivity, replacing manual processes, and why having a deliberate AI strategy is no longer optional for business owners. On this episode, we discuss: (00:00) Intro (00:24) The Automation Course That Was Obso...
Why Income Alone Doesn't Build Wealth 22.03.2026 32:37
Do you actually need a high income to build wealth? We see the same problem at every income level. You earn more, spend more, and still feel stuck. In this episode, we walk through six common mistakes that hold people back, from lifestyle creep and no clear plan, to how you use debt and think about building assets. It’s a clearer look at why income alone doesn’t lead to wealth, and what actually d...
Your Beer Is Taxed More Than Our Gas Exports | We Did the Numbers on What Could Have Been 15.03.2026 20:49
Australians pay more in beer tax than what the government collects from companies exporting our gas. Senator David Pocock has been calling it out in Parliament, it's doing the rounds, and it's got Jase fired up. He's done the numbers on the petroleum resources rent tax, looked at how Norway faced the same situation with their oil boom and took a very different approach, and what a 10% levy on Aust...
10 Lessons from an F1 Boss. Do Any Actually Apply to Small Business? 08.03.2026 31:01
You see it all the time. Mega successful people sharing their business advice online. But does any of it actually stack up when you're running a small business day to day? Today we're taking 10 business lessons from the new Audi F1 team boss Jonathan Wheatley and pressure testing them against the reality of small business life to see what actually resonates and what's unrelatable. On this episode,...
Are Family Trusts Still Worth It In 2026? 01.03.2026 25:45
Family Trusts can be a seriously powerful structure for income distribution and asset protection, but they only work well when you’re across the rules and the deadlines. We talk through how trust distributions actually work, what needs to be documented before 30 June, and what changes in ATO reporting mean now that trust distributions are showing on pre-fill reports. If you’ve got a family trust o...
SMSF Property Strategy: Smart Move or Expensive Mistake? 22.02.2026 29:42
There’s a lot of talk about buying property through a Self-Managed Super Fund at the moment, but the difference between a smart strategy and an expensive mistake is knowing the rules and the real numbers. Today we cover what lending actually looks like, what it costs to set up and run, and the compliance traps that catch people out. On this episode, we discuss: (00:00) Intro (00:24) Why Everyone I...
The 3 Numbers Every Business Owner Must Track 15.02.2026 38:17
A business can be busy, growing revenue, and still be going backwards. Today we share a framework we use to judge business health properly, covering cash flow, profit margins, and the personal wealth piece most owners ignore. It’s a clearer way to tell what’s working, what’s not, and what matters next. On this episode, we discuss: 00:00) Intro (02:34) Three Key Numbers Every Business Owner Must Wa...
Avoid Burnout in 2026: A Simple Plan to Stay Consistent 08.02.2026 29:24
Most people start the year fired up, then fall back into the same yearly pattern and end up on the fast track to burnout by December. So how do you break that cycle and stay consistent all year? It’s our first episode back for 2026, and Nick runs through the patterns he’s noticed in himself and the system he’s putting in place this year to keep energy and momentum steady, from quarterly goals and...
2026 Predictions And Marty’s Final Episode 14.12.2025 42:07
We’re back with our yearly Predictions Episode and we’re also farewelling our mate Marty as he wraps up his time on the show. We look back on our 2025 predictions to see who was on the money and who was way off, then lock in our calls for 2026. From interest rates and modular homes to AI, robots in business and the payday super nightmare, there’s plenty on the table for next year. On this episode,...
Marty’s 5 Biggest Lessons Before He Finishes Up on the Show 07.12.2025 52:04
Welcome to episode $$ of The Numbers Game. On today's show On this episode, we discuss: (00:00) Intro (00:39) Why Marty’s Leaving The Show (02:26) Lesson 1: Know Yourself And Have Courage (05:14) Leaving “Safe” Jobs To Follow Meaningful Work (12:59) Lesson 2: Doing Simple Things That Work (16:02) How Complexity, Compliance And Tech Can Kill Progress (20:59) Lesson 3: You Are Your Own SEO (25:03)...
Why Young Aussies Are Buying “Boring” Businesses Instead of Property 30.11.2025 25:43
More young Australians are choosing to buy “boring” small businesses instead of investing in property. In this episode we look at a young couple who bought a 29-year-old fabrication business and turned it into a highly profitable asset, and we break down how profit, valuation multiples, succession gaps and efficiency improvements can create serious wealth for the right buyer. On this episode, we d...
Singapore vs Australia: Which Tax System Actually Works? 23.11.2025 32:13
Today we look at why Singapore’s tax system delivers stronger incentives for business and workers, from 17% company tax to lower personal tax rates and no capital gains. We compare the cost-of-living trade-offs, how innovation is supported, and what Australia could learn from a model that rewards progress instead of punishing it. On this episode, we discuss: (00:00) Singapore vs Australia (00:50)...
Why Your Inheritance Isn’t Safe Without a Valid Will 16.11.2025 20:55
What really happens when you don’t have a proper will in place? From state trustees taking control to long probate delays, contested estates and outdated super nominations, we cover the risks that can leave families exposed. If you want your wealth to end up where you intend, this episode will give you the clarity you need. On this episode, we discuss: (00:00) Intro (00:43) Would You Trust The Gov...
Australia’s Migration Numbers Explained: The Winners, Losers and Myths 09.11.2025 30:20
You may have seen a post on social media claiming 142,000 millionaires are leaving Australia. So today we look at what the migration report actually says, who’s really leaving, and how many wealthy people are moving here instead. We talk about migration, housing, cost of living, safety, and why some Aussies are heading to Dubai and Singapore. A clear look at whether migration is helping or hurting...
How Businesses Can Do Good and Still Make Money 02.11.2025 27:33
A roll of toilet paper might not sound revolutionary, but Who Gives A Crap turned it into a business that gives half its profits to improve sanitation around the world. Today we talk about how putting purpose behind your business can drive growth, why profit still needs to come first, and how the two can work together to create something meaningful. On this episode, we discuss: (00:00) Why Marty B...
Is Your Super Really Safe? How $1.2 Billion in Super Was Lost 26.10.2025 32:12
Imagine being months away from retirement, logging into your super account, and seeing your balance at zero. That’s what thousands of Australians are now facing after the collapse of multiple superannuation funds, with more than $1.2 billion in retirement savings wiped out. Today we explain how this happened, what went wrong with the platforms and checks that were supposed to protect investors, a...
Are Aussies Paying Too Much Tax? 19.10.2025 27:44
Australians are taxed on almost everything - income, fuel, property, super, even talk of inheritance and spare-bedroom taxes. In this episode we explore how much we really give back to the government, where that $800 billion in tax revenue goes, and whether our complex system is holding back innovation, investment, and everyday Aussies trying to get ahead. On this episode, we discuss: (00:00) Intr...
How to Beat the Stock Market Without Losing Your Pants! 12.10.2025 29:32
Markets are on a high - stocks, property, crypto, even gold - but what could go wrong? Today we talk about how to beat the stock market without losing your pants , sharing our biggest investment mistakes, lessons from the GFC, and the strategies that actually protect your wealth. From dollar cost averaging and stop-loss rules to Buffett-style patience, we unpack how smart investors win over the lo...
Has Realestate.com.au Become Too Powerful? 05.10.2025 22:22
Is Realestate.com.au too powerful? Vendors are forking out thousands just to list their property, agents are copping big subscription hikes, and the ACCC is asking questions about postcode pricing. REA Group, the business behind the site, now pulls in over 12 million users a month and $1.7 billion in revenue, leaving Domain in the dust. We break down how the network effect built this juggernaut, t...
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