Doug and Drew
The Next Trip - An Aviation and Travel Podcast
The Next Trip is a weekly, internationally acclaimed podcast with aviation insiders Doug and Drew, who together bring more than 40 years of industry experience as a professional pilot and a hub operations manager at a major airline. Join them, and their frequent guests, as they create a network for other AvGeeks and travel enthusiasts to obsess about all things aviation. Doug and Drew discuss today’s aviation news, share personal operational stories, regale listeners with trip reviews, and engage in friendly AvGeek banter. All thoughts and opinions are their own. Visit us at www.nexttripnetwor...
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Jul 6, 2026
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Episodes
Boarding Pass 220: Around the World in 80 Hours 12.02.2024 52:12
Send us Fan Mail Drew is in Hong Kong, with return guest Ian, while Doug is in North Carolina for KC46 training. Ian and Drew are fresh off flights from LAX where they met up with avgeek friends. We discuss: Lara of Nonrev Lounge has her birthday at LAX…of course Getting from LAX to HKG via MUC and ZRH? It’s complicated 4 engines for long haul. We discuss the A340 737 Max update Lufthansa ground...
Boarding Pass 219: Yes, She'll Make It. Next... 05.02.2024 57:05
Send us Fan Mail Drew is back in the air and working on perfecting landings in a Cessna Skyhawk. Doug is home from work and spending way too mcuh time figuring out if Taylor Swift will make it from her concert in Tokyo. We discuss: Doug gives Drew tips on how to grease a landing Jetblue and Spirit appeal the decision denying their merger Should Boeing “sunset” the 737? Contributor Steve laments t...
Boarding Pass 218: Back in the Sky! 29.01.2024 51:41
Send us Fan Mail Drew is back in the sky working on a private pilot’s license while Doug is in Houston on the “V" part of his “W" assignment of SFO-LHR-IAH-LHR-SFO. We discuss: Sending a 767 to San Diego with rampers to work it Late Senator Dianne Feinstein gets an SFO terminal and the Ontario Airport named after her American, Southwest, and United reported earnings Jetblue may be cha...
Boarding Pass 217: Lowered Spirits 22.01.2024 53:38
Send us Fan Mail Drew had 2 deice events this week as El Niño brings in the promised precipitation. Doug is back from sunny Taipei after riding some bad turbulence on the way home. We discuss: Air Florida 90 and deicing hold over times Boeing 737 Max 9 grounding update Everyone’s jumping on the India band wagon (Mumbai rush hour train) with more flights Spirit/Jetblue merger failure. What now? B...
Boarding Pass 216: Oh Boeing... 15.01.2024 59:38
Send us Fan Mail Doug is back from a 2-day trip to Munich where the trains weren’t running and Drew is lucking out again with calm East Coast weather for the MLK weekend traffic. We discuss: Alaska 1282 door plug incident It’s an El Niño year for weather patterns. How does that affect aviation? Jetblue's Joanna Geraghty is the first major US airline CEO Delta orders 20 A350-1000s What does Bo...
Boarding Pass 215: JAL 516 08.01.2024 52:33
Send us Fan Mail Drew deals with “flurrygate" to cap off 7 busy week for airport ops while Doug is getting much needed rest after a running the gauntlet over the Christmas holiday. We discuss: JAL 516 - “kudos to the crew” Smooth operators - airlines keep it together over the holiday season Akasa (who?) on the verge of a 150 aircraft order 2023 was a safe year for aviation Join the discuss...
Boarding Pass 214: Another Year Over and a New One's Just Begun 01.01.2024 1:06:25
Send us Fan Mail Doug is back from his “W” trip SFO-LHR-IAH-LHR-SFO and trying not to think of where his body clock is. Drew enjoyed a traditional airline Christmas of working and then enjoying takeout Chinese food on the couch with Robbie and doggie, Henny. We discuss: Did our predictions for 2023 happen? Mexicana is back! Are exploding engines in our future? We look at rotating detonation engine...
Boarding Pass 213: Under the AvGeek Christmas Tree 25.12.2023 55:58
Send us Fan Mail Drew and Doug are both on the job the week of Christmas with Drew working the busy hub operation and Doug doing flights to London, then Houston, back to London, and then home to SFO. We talk about news stories as presents and what we’d like to see under the avgeek Xmas tree. We also discuss: JSX buys 300 electric and hybrid planes Boeing resumes deliveries to China Lufthansa ord...
Boarding Pass 212: Why Flying is Miserable: And How to Fix It 18.12.2023 1:20:26
Send us Fan Mail Ganesh Sitaraman, professor at Vanderbilt University, and author of “Why Flying is Miserable: and How to Fix It”, joins us to talk about the history of the airlines and how to make them better. We discuss: The inception and growth of America’s airlines Regulation and deregulation Ideas on how to bring back service to smaller cities, improve the flying experience, and keep it ac...
Boarding Pass 211: Alaska Makes an (Un)Surprising Move 11.12.2023 59:08
Send us Fan Mail Doug is back from KC46 training near Philadelphia and Drew is working to save fuel by having aircraft APUs shut down fast. Both of us are excited about the Alaska/Hawaiian merger and of course we have opinions on it. Should they start a new airline brand or keep Alaska and Hawaiian identities separate? We also discuss: The best and worst airports for layovers The JetBlue-Spirit...
Boarding Pass 210: Busiest Day in History 04.12.2023 53:47
Send us Fan Mail It’s confirmed - Sunday, November 26 was the busiest day in US aviation history. Drew talks about how it was running the operation that day, and Doug recounts leaving snowy Chicago. We discuss: Travel forecasts for 2024 A Virgin 787 flies on 100% SAF Spirit struggles with planes out of service and excess staffing We remember the Concorde's last flight 20 years ago Why are...
Boarding Pass 209: The Great Sandwich War of 1958 27.11.2023 52:51
Send us Fan Mail Doug is back from Beijing and in the US Midwest for Thanksgiving while Drew is working the busiest holiday travel week ever. We talk about out Thanksgiving celebrations and discuss: TSA passenger numbers this week Airline service offerings and IATA regulating sandwiches in 1958 Dutch government drops flight cap threat Boom Supersonic project gains speed with Saudi investment Dubai...
Boarding Pass 208: Thanks for Nothing 20.11.2023 1:03:30
Send us Fan Mail Doug is back from New Zealand and Drew's back from Geneva via a 747 from Frankfurt. Both are gearing up for a record breaking Thanksgiving travel period. We talk about what we’re thankful for but it didn’t go as planned. 😃 https://www.nexttripnetwork.com/
Boarding Pass 207: Cargo Flashes Warning Signs 13.11.2023 44:15
Send us Fan Mail Doug is back from 777 simulator training and Drew continues Winter Ops training in 70F temps. We discuss: We get confirmation that our prediction about Jetblue and Alaska merging was and is a possibility Fedex tells pilots “go work for American" Spirit leaving Denver United expects record breaking Thanksgiving holiday travel period We finish the episode previewing Doug’s t...
Boarding Pass 206: Just Tap the Brakes 06.11.2023 47:24
Send us Fan Mail Drew has roadblocks getting flights out with the jetstream causing early arrivals in Europe, weight restrictions to Tokyo due to a volcanic eruption, and gate space issues at Las Vegas. Doug is in Denver for flight sim training after just arriving from Taipei. We discuss: US Senators accuse airlines of “unfair practices” in their frequent flyer programs What’s up with AOG Technics...
Boarding Pass 205: Downsizing? 30.10.2023 51:32
Send us Fan Mail Drew is back from a Winter Ops Summit in Chicago and Doug is getting his honey-do list done before flying to Taipei. We discuss: Challenges of running a full schedule during snow and ice events Kudos to the Horizon crew who dealt with a jumpseater trying to shut engines off Southwest posts smaller profit and orders 108 737-7s Spirit slows growth plans due to softer demand FAA fi...
Boarding Pass 204: Full Circle Part 2 (One Perfect Day) 23.10.2023 1:09:18
Send us Fan Mail Doug and Drew make it to Hong Kong to celebrate over 200 episodes. We accomplish our mission of walking to Checkerboard Hill where aircraft made the sharp turn before landing at Kai Tak airport until 1998. Drew has a special visitor from Sri Lanka with a civilian aviation story and Doug is back to KC46 training. . We discuss: Sri Lankan writer Ashok Ferrey joins us to talk about...
Boarding Pass 203: Full Circle Part 1 (Back Where it Started) 16.10.2023 40:26
Send us Fan Mail Drew is at SFO filling in for ops manager and Doug survived a water park with 2 kids. We do a quick taping before Drew rushed to get on a flight to Hong Kong (or anywhere in Asia). We discuss Drew’s full circle from SFO express ops agent to mainline ops manager Flights halted to Isreal as war erupts United flight to nowhere Boeing X66-A TTBW project update and will it have open...
Boarding Pass 202: Planes, Planes, and More Planes 09.10.2023 59:16
Send us Fan Mail Doug is back from Frankfurt, and Drew is rounding everyone up to create Winter ops checklists as temps start dropping. Breaking news is a cargo 757 doing a belly landing in Chattanooga, Tennessee after a possible hydraulic issue. We discuss landing gear situations as well as a planeload of other topics: SAS moves from the STAR Alliance to SkyTeam with Air France/KLM buying a stak...
Boarding Pass 201: Arrivederci Avgeeks 02.10.2023 45:21
Send us Fan Mail Doug is in Green Bay for a Packers game, after operating his 2nd flight to Rome, while Drew holds court with four avgeeks in DC. We discuss Reactions to Delta’s mileage program changes Ryan Air's CEO, Michael O’Leary, gets pied Jetblue/America Northeast Alliance update AirCanada orders 787-10s while AF/KLM orders A350 Cathay Pacific and HKG rise out of the ashes ACARS - the...
Boarding Pass 200: Thank You Listeners! 25.09.2023 52:30
Send us Fan Mail We made it to 200 episodes and could not have done it without you. Thank you for letting us be your avgeek fix every week. We do it for you! Thanks for the feedback, comments, engagement, and inspiration. We planned a fabulous trip for this episode but had to postpone because life happens, and we’ve alway said people (and pets) over planes. There will still be a celebratory trip s...
Boarding Pass 199: Impending Groundings? 18.09.2023 54:10
Send us Fan Mail We're back from Dorkfest at LAX but the fun didn't stop there. Doug had a rags to riches avgeek story for his return to the SF Bay Area and Drew and buddies went west to Honolulu (as one does) before returning to the mainland. On this episode we discuss: A passenger attempted to enter the flight deck at Chicago O'Hare Ural Airlines A320 lands in a field in Russia I...
Boarding Pass 198: Dorkfest! 11.09.2023 51:59
Send us Fan Mail Doug and Drew make it to Dorkfest 2023 LAX and meet up with a bunch of our awesome friends and listeners. This is a yearly avgeek meetup first organized by Brett Snyder, better known as blogger Cranky Flier. VIP listeners Ian and Ryan join us on the episode. We discuss: Our crazy routes to LAX Avgeeks on a train? Annoying announcements New FAA administrator Tom Brady hired as Delt...
Boarding Pass 197: No Way Red Way 04.09.2023 52:37
Send us Fan Mail It’s the busiest Labor Day weekend ever in the US and Drew’s mom tells us about getting the last seat on a flight from SF to DC. We also discuss: Allegiant's new alcohol pricing LHR's ATC meltdown Redway Airlines, acting as sales agent for Fly Next, flying Global Crossing Airlines aircraft, fails. Confused yet? FAA investigation close to 5,000 pilots for not reporting h...
Boarding Pass 196: All Roads Lead to PSLs 28.08.2023 52:14
Send us Fan Mail See Rome and fly! Doug’s speed dating the Eternal City and Drew's on AM shift avoiding delays for customers in line for pumpkin spice lattes. We discuss Is FCO the best large airport in Europe? Will Carsten Spohr of LH bring ITA into STar Alliance? Dulles breaks ground on largest airport green energy project Boom's SST tester aircraft gets FAA certification Will the Bo...
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