Tier4 Group

The Next Tier

Business EN ↓ 8 episodes

The Next Tier is a leadership podcast about the people-decisions that shape organizations and the moments that define careers. Hosted by Betsy Robinson, Founder and CEO, and Robert Bouchard, COO, each episode features candid conversations with executives, founders, and industry leaders about how they build teams, navigate complexity, and make high-stakes hiring and leadership decisions. We go beyond titles and resumes to uncover the experiences, lessons, and uncommon turning points that influence how great organizations are actually built. Are you ready to reach the next tier?

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Tier4 Group

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Business

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Latest episode

Jun 29, 2026

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Episodes

Step Into It: The Future of Talent, With Ray Culver, Global Managing Director, TALiNT Partners 29.06.2026

What does it take to lead through uncertainty, embrace technology without losing the human touch, and build a culture where everyone rises together? In Part 2 of our conversation with Ray Culver, seasoned talent industry veteran with over 30 years across Randstad, Spherion, and Manpower, we dive deep into the leadership principles and workforce strategies that have defined his career. Ray shares h...

Betting On Yourself: Navigating Reinvention, Risk, & Growth | Part 1 Ft. Ray Culver, Global Managing Director, TALiNT Partners 16.06.2026

What does it take to build a 30-year career in workforce solutions, and STILL be the most curious person in the room? Just ask Ray Culver . In this episode of The Next Tier , Robert Bouchard sits down with Ray, Global Managing Director of TALiNT Partners and a 30-year workforce solutions veteran whose career spans Randstad, Spherion, Manpower Group, and beyond. Ray brings a rare vantage point: he'...

Do The Damn Thing: A Leadership Conversation With Joe Macchiarella, COO, ISG Technology 26.05.2026

In this episode of The Next Tier Podcast , co-hosts Betsy Robinson and Robert Bouchard sit down with Joe Macchiarella , COO of ISG Technology , for a conversation on leadership, discipline, culture, AI, and what it really takes to grow into executive leadership. From wiring PBX systems in New York to leading technology organizations through growth and transformation, Joe shares the career moments...

Beyond Belonging: Championing the Next Generation of Women and Leaders in the AI-Driven Workforce 27.04.2026

In Episode 2 of The Next Tier , Robert Bouchard sits down with Heather Rocker , CEO of Women in Technology (WIT) , to explore what it truly means to lead with purpose in today’s rapidly evolving workforce. With a career spanning Amazon’s Alexa AI team, nonprofit executive leadership, and decades of community impact, Heather shares how AI literacy, sponsorship, and intentional leadership are shapin...

The Relentless Pursuer, Part 2 | Ft. Jennifer Baker, CIO, Arvest Bank 23.03.2026

The conversation continues... and it gets even more honest. In Part 2 of our inaugural episode, Jennifer Baker, CIO at Arvest Bank, and cohosts Betsy Robinson & Robert Bouchard pick up right where they left off, diving deeper into one of the most urgent questions facing organizations today: why are we losing talented women in the middle of their tech careers — and what are we actually going to...

The Relentless Pursuer, Part 1 | Ft. Jennifer Baker, CIO, Arvest Bank 23.03.2026

What does it really take to move to the next tier — in your career, your team, and your organization? In our inaugural episode, cohosts Betsy Robinson and Robert Bouchard sit down with Jennifer Baker, Chief Information Officer at Arvest Bank and board member of Women in Technology, for an honest conversation about leadership, growth, and what it means to show up with intention. Jen has spent her c...

Closing The Mid-Career Gap: How You Can Support Women in Tech 16.03.2026

Organizations are losing an alarming number of talented women in technology - mostly in the middle tier of leadership. Managers, senior managers, directors, and senior directors — women are stepping away long before they reach the C‑suite, most before age 35. Jennifer Baker, CIO of Arvest Bank, explores why this happens and what leaders can do about it. It’s not a pipeline problem. It’s not a skil...

The Next Tier Teaser Trailer 12.03.2026

What qualities instantly build trust in any professional environment? For Jennifer Baker, CIO of Arvest Bank, the answer was clear: radical candor and true urgency. Jennifer shares why one of the most mature things a leader or teammate can say is: “I don’t know, but I’ll find out.” She explains how honesty, follow‑through, and accountability create instant credibility, while failing to follow up c...

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