The Moving Beyond Trauma Podcast

Spiritual Conversations in Trauma Healing, in commemoration of 250 years since the signing of the Declaration of Independence, invited a special guest, a sovereignty friend and healer, whose ancestor was one of the original signers, to discuss his journey around the topic of ‘Freedom and Trauma’ with Judy. Tony Carrol’s story covers a great deal of territory—from his mother’s elderly abuse due to...

On this month’s podcast, Debbie Zeits and Judy Dragon dive deeper into “Abuse of Children Through Vaccinations and Money.” This isn't about being anti-medicine. It's about asking who has really been protected and who hasn't by recognizing the five repeating patterns of abuse. Both ladies will discuss the foundations and history of vaccines with the laws that were put into place to prot...

This month’s podcast starts a topic on ‘Abuse of Children through Medical Professionals & Coercion.’ Debbie and Judy delve into a system that was built, funded, and protected to make children vulnerable and sick. They show by discussion and a timeline, why medical abuse of children was possible — and why it has continued for so long. Through the recognition of the signs within the historical a...

Our conversation this month is “Structures of Evil…History and Collapse”. Judy and Debbie take a historical and spiritual dive into Satanism, Freemasonry, and the Illuminati. Beyond any 'conspiracy theories', Judy reveals some truths of her life connected to these structures. There is a discussion of the Inversion Reset of 1776, our American forefather’s awareness of infiltration of the Dark cabal...

For this month’s podcast, Debbie Zeits and I delve into a very complex subject--‘Freemartin and Gender Inversion’. We define what a freemartin is in the animal world, and how this relates to what is happening to children in an agenda that is destroying their health, their body, and limiting their life choices. We discuss the causes of body dysphoria, trauma, and environmental chemicals, which may...

February’s Spiritual Conversations in Trauma Healing podcast brings a suggested topic from our audience as Debbie and I wove it into, “How Trauma Shifts Empathy for Empaths”. We discuss the qualities and differences of both empathetic and empathic people. Additionally, we share how empathy becomes overcompensated for empathic children due to coping mechanisms from early trauma and its effects. The...

January’s Spiritual Conversations in Trauma Healing podcast discusses “Regulating Oneself is Not the End”. It often occurs that the process of regulating oneself emotionally and somatically from past trauma from childhood abuse can lead to possibly memory bypassing in not wanting to deal with deeper, unconscious issues. Judy Dragon and Debbie Zeits explore why, when, and how this happens. They sha...

December’s Spiritual Conversations in Trauma Healing podcast—"‘You hurt my feelings!’ - Blaming or ownership of experience?” delves into who is responsible for our experiences and feelings. Debbie and Judy share their experiences with this expression of discontent, getting out the position of victim from the Drama Triangle, what happens when people don’t take accountability, or are overly responsi...

Judy Dragon and Debbie Zeits bring some light to this month’s Spiritual Conversations in Trauma Healing as they dive into a deep topic, “Suicide and Suicidal Ideation Viewpoints” . They discuss reasons that people experience these feelings and/or actions, the societal beliefs and spiritual perspectives around suicide, grieving for those left behind, and sharing some personal experiences. Judy shar...

This month’s podcast is taken from an old blog, “Are You Whole?” Judy will be doing this one solo as Debbie is taking a needed break. Judy shares a true story that occurred for her, bringing to light the effects of extreme trauma, its healing, and a former book written to bring this transformation into the public arena. When a fellow dancer mockingly responded to her vulnerable disclosure, Judy’s...

Judy Dragon and Debbie Zeits were asked a question from the audience and decided to respond as the  Spiritual Conversations in Trauma Healing  topic for this month's podcast--  The Question: "Why These Books?"  Since there was already Judy's first book from 2009, why was there a need for revision on the topic of healing trauma from childhood abuse through the ThetaHealing® Technique? Debbie asks q...

Judy Dragon and Debbie Zeits focus on  “Symbols, Signals, and Codes” in this month’s  “Spiritual Conversations in Trauma Healing”.  We are being signaled all the time, but do we pay attention? What do we pay attention to?  Which ones are beneficial, and which ones are creating harm? They discuss the Spiritual Realm of Creation that symbols, codes and signals may come from, how interpretations chan...

July’s topic is  “Rehabilitation for Perpetrators through Cognify AI?”.   Debbie Zeits and Judy Dragon discuss the implications of AI usage through a new technology called Cognify. It’s being used to reform criminals, particularly sexual offenders in how these offenders could be possibly be put back into society. They share how the Cognify design works in changing brain neural pathways by implanti...

In finding that many who have dealt with trauma from childhood abuse have had Near Death Experiences (NDEs) and Out of Body Experiences (OBEs), Judy Dragon and Debbie Zeits wanted to give these a deeper exploration. They discuss what they are, how they might occur, the fear of death, what kind of life reviews a child and adult may go through, or just the experience in crossing over, and what Engra...

This month’s Spiritual Conversations in Trauma Healing is “ Resistance, Avoidance, Fear,   and Truth”.  Debbie Zeits and Judy Dragon discuss the differences between denial and resistance and resistance and avoidance. They ask and discuss whether we can acknowledge the resistance, how it shows up, and what can be done when it appears in trauma healing. Additionally, there is a dive into somatic tru...

With all that is going on in the world and the collapse of the ‘old world’, Debbie Zeits and Judy Dragon discuss “Build a New Model of Change”. They angle their conversation based on their experiences of how external (outer world) structures affect our internal structures (inner world) and vise versa, and what that means in trauma healing. They share pertinent stories and examples. A beautiful med...

Spiritual Conversations in Trauma Healing, with hosts Judy Dragon and Debbie Zeits, bring awareness to the topic of “Being Ignored”.  They look at the connections to other emotional and developmental traumas from abuse, how this affects the brain, the coping strategies and responses that occur, beliefs, and feelings that being ignored brings up. They also discuss family estrangement in being ignor...

Since the month of February is often connotated with Love, Spiritual Conversations in Trauma Healing, with hosts Debbie Zeits and Judy Dragon, focus on the topic of "Love Languages". What makes people feel seen and significant in romantic relationship, friendships, and businesses often turns out to be virtues or qualities. When people have been abused as children, these characteristics become skew...

Spiritual Conversations in Trauma Healing discusses another controversial subject.  "An Orientation of Normalcy...Pedophilia?? " Debbie Zeits and Judy Dragon dive into the meaning of what ‘normal’ is, behaviors that have been identified as normal in some societies that are sexually harmful to children, ancient historical awareness, and what are NOMAPS vs predatory pedophiles. They also discuss how...

ThetaHealers Debbie Zeits, Melissa Martin and Judy Dragon continue with last month’s theme of ‘Compassion for Sex Offenders and Traffickers?’. This Spiritual Conversation in Trauma Healing tranverses into self-examining questions about compassion and offenders, how those victimized often see God/Creator as the perpetrator and why, examining choices in the moment for those who have perpetrated, how...

Compassion…for sexual offenders & traffickers?   This very multiplex podcast, ‘Compassion for Sex Offenders and Traffickers?’ through Spiritual Conversations in Trauma Healing, with hosts Debbie Zeits, Melissa Martin and Judy Dragon, enters into some difficult territory to go along with current events. They discuss different angles of spiritual principles and healing in understanding sex offen...

Our Spiritual Conversation in Trauma Healing, Season 5, Episode 2, brings a bit of controversy to the show. “Are Children Sensual or Sexual Beings?” opens a door to explore the true nature of children different than a more recent agenda of sexualizing them. Melissa Martin, Debbie Zeits, and Judy Dragon give background and an honest conversation about this topic and the agenda, define what it is fo...

We welcome you back to Spiritual Conversation in Trauma Healing. Season 5, Episode 1’s topic is  “Victim Blaming Awareness” with your hosts Judy Dragon, Debbie Zeits and Melissa Martin. They discuss the different ways a person who has been victimized may respond both somatically and emotionally. The conversation also broaches on the angle of why the perpetrator uses certain tactics to keep the oth...

July’s Spiritual Conversations in Trauma Healing brings the three part series on Intuitive Trigger Awareness to its finale. In being able to now start to recognize and identify presentations, triggers and patterns from the information from the past episodes, Judy, Debbie and Melissa discuss what can be done about the triggers--how to calm the reaction and process the emotions and/or memories for r...

June’s Spiritual Conversations in Trauma Healing brings together Judy, Debbie and Melissa in the Part 2 of this series on Intuitive Trigger Awareness. The three converse on triggers, the importance of them, how they can come from different connections whether in-person social interaction or through events in the world where people may have acquiesced to rules or authority figures. This lively disc...