More Than Enough Podcast
The More Than Enough Podcast
The More Than Enough Podcast connects you to the people, ideas, and tools in foster care that will help your community work together to fill the biggest gaps in caring for children and families.
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Episodes
Youth Mentoring: The power of passing it on 09.06.2026 40:25
Mentorship isn't about having all the right answers. Most of the time, it's simply about opening up your life and inviting someone in. In this episode, Zach Garza shares his story, from being a struggling student changed by a professor to mentoring his own students and empowering leaders nationwide to build youth mentorship ministries in their own communities.
Single Foster and Adoptive Parenting: How communities can make sure no one walks alone 26.05.2026 45:39
Today we're joined by Peter Mutabazi, Stacy Glass, and Laura Hutfless to talk about the unique journey of single foster and adoptive parents and what it looks like for a church to really come alongside and champion these families.
Data: More than Numbers 14.05.2026 28:52
When data stops being abstract and starts feeling real, it compels us to act. In this episode, we share an excerpt from Until There’s More than Enough followed by stories from five foster care leaders on the data points that fuel their work.
From ‘What If’ to ‘Even If’: A conversation with Kia Gelinas 28.04.2026 23:24
We all have things that we’re afraid of. From imaginary dragons in the attic to snakes to some deeper fears, ‘What if I fail?’, ‘‘What if I let others down?’, or ‘What if I get hurt’? And our children, especially those who have experienced hard things, often carry even more of those “what ifs.” Today we talk with Kia Gelinas, an adoptee, teacher, and mentor about what it looks like to face those f...
Too Big to Do Alone: A conversation with Kevan Chandler 14.04.2026 27:52
Recorded at CAFO 2025, this episode features author and speaker Kevan Chandler. We explore what it looks like to dream so big for kids and families in foster care that it requires leaning on others—and on God—to see it come to life. Kevan shares about interdependence, vulnerability, and the incredible gifts and challenges that come from working together towards more than enough for children and fa...
A New Look at Love: Familiar passage, fresh foster care insights 24.03.2026 40:19
We revisit 1 Corinthians 13 with Pastor and dad Mark Gomez of Project 1.27, exploring how this familiar chapter on love takes on deeper meaning in the context of foster care and community. What if the passage hasn’t changed — but we have?
The Process of Becoming: A conversation with Justin Whitmel Earley 10.03.2026 37:38
Recorded at CAFO 2025, this episode features author, speaker, and lawyer Justin Whitmel Earley. In this episode we talk about the habits that shape us, the relationships that ground us, and even the ways our physical bodies can teach our souls. This conversation isn’t just about what you do, but about who you’re becoming as you do it. Prefer video? This special episode is available in full on the...
Building Resilience: What we can learn from a bike-riding koala 24.02.2026 53:26
Scripture and research have much to teach us about resilience, healing, and what it really takes to overcome. In this episode, Dr. Nicole Wilke and former foster youth Nick Tucker share insights—from both research and lived experience—on moving forward after early adversity.
Working With Characters You Didn’t Choose: A conversation with Curt Thompson, MD 10.02.2026 39:17
Great stories often begin with an unlikely ensemble—imperfect people learning to work together toward something bigger than themselves. That same dynamic plays out in communities working together to better serve children and families in foster care. Recorded at CAFO 2025, this episode features psychiatrist and author Dr. Curt Thompson in a conversation about collaboration, difference, and formatio...
Marriage in Foster and Adoptive Families: What it takes to make the magic happen 27.01.2026 1:00:13
Foster care and adoption can strain even strong marriages. This episode explores what helps spouses stay connected when life is already full.
Using AI Wisely: Thoughtful approaches when serving children and families 13.01.2026 47:46
How can Christian ministries use AI-powered tools wisely—especially when it comes to the context of serving vulnerable children and families? In this episode, Jedd Medefind, Nicholette Antoniuk, and Travis Hesson explore how to use AI within this context and share key questions and principles that can help ministries approach it with wisdom and care.
Not Meant to Fly Solo: Why adoptive families need a crew 16.12.2025 43:06
Today, we hear from two experts, Dr. Melody Aguayo and Traci Newell who share practical ways churches can support adoptive families and their personal stories about what made a real difference in their own lives.
Everyone Can Do Something: Finding Your Fit in Foster Care 18.11.2025 44:08
Reaching more than enough for children and families in our communities takes everyone pitching in, even those who may not feel that they squarely fit into the world of foster care! Join a conversation with Jason Johnson, author of the book Everyone Can Do Something, to talk about what a culture of 'everyone can do something' can look like in your church and your community. Then leaders from across...
A Conversation with Bishop W.C. Martin: The community that inspired Sound of Hope 28.10.2025 26:11
The movie Sound of Hope, was inspired by the true story of Possum Trot, Texas. In this episode, we hear about the way one church made a decision that changed not only their own lives but the lives of dozens of children in foster care straight from Bishop W.C. Martin himself.
Custom Build: Designing Pure Religion Sunday to fit your church 21.10.2025 43:55
In this episode, you’ll discover fresh ideas for how your church can participate in Pure Religion Sunday in ways that are meaningful and uniquely tailored to your context. Hear from Gabe Forsyth at Mosaic Church on how his church has leveraged this day over the years, and from Lisa Robertson at HopeBridge in Ohio on how it has helped their organization engage local churches in powerful ways.
Nothing Wasted: Using what we already have 23.09.2025 51:38
Today we’re asking a question every community needs to consider: What if supporting kids and families isn’t about starting something brand new—but about making full use of what God’s already given us? In this episode, you’ll hear two stories that explore that question. Join us as we talk to Brett Cadwell from Kingsway Church in Indiana, and Ronda Paulson from Isaiah 117 House.
A Conversation with Austin Ludwig 09.09.2025 29:49
In this episode, we sit down with Austin Ludwig for a powerful conversation about the goodness of God, His redemptive heart, and the ways He’s worked in Austin’s life—often in unexpected and transformative ways. Austin is an artist, a passionate advocate for children in foster care, and a staff member at the Winshape Foundation, where he helps equip local churches in their mission to care for chil...
Invading Someone’s Bubble: How turf wars significantly shape our ability to care for families 18.08.2025 41:37
This episode features an exclusive preview of the new audiobook version of Until There’s More Than Enough and then a conversation with Philip Pattison, the Executive Director of Foster the City. We explore how organizations can step into new spaces with care—so that unity grows—and so that kids and families are better off because of it.
Building an Effective Collaboration: Local networks that work and that last 18.08.2025 27:44
How do you build a local foster care network that actually works—and lasts? In this episode, we explore three essential structures for sustainable collaboration, with real-life insights from leaders of Every Child Arkansas: Phil Goad, Derek Brown, and Shayne Baker. Learn how steering teams, backbone support, and working groups can bring lasting impact to your community.
The Power of a Local Network: What’s possible when all the parts work together 05.08.2025 47:45
In today’s episode, we explore the power of a local collaborative network where churches, organizations, agencies, and advocates are coordinating their efforts, working together to better support children and families in foster care. Jason is joined by Keith Fortier and Colin Wells, two members of a local network in Wake County, North Carolina, as they share stories of the impact they’ve seen in t...
Around the Table: Keeping relationships at the center of foster care strategy 08.07.2025 47:36
Today we’re diving into something that sits right at the heart of what we’re all about — relationships. As believers, we know this isn’t just a nice idea. We’re uniquely called and equipped to offer the kind of relationships that go the distance — the kind that reflect the love and faithfulness of Jesus, even when things get messy. We’ll hear today from Amber Knowles with The Riverside Project in...
Removing Barriers to Foster Care: What new research reveals 05.06.2025 43:21
Discover insights from a new US foster care and adoption survey conducted by Pinkston and the Christian Alliance for Orphans that can help us better understand what the public really thinks about foster care and what truly motivates people to get involved. Download the full report in the show notes. https://cafo.org/podcasts/more-than-enough-podcast/mtep-episode18/
Praying Leaders: Experiencing the power of God in foster care transformation 27.05.2025 36:30
In this episode, Jason talks with Ryan Skoog and Peter Greer, two of the authors of the book Lead with Prayer. We then hear from five foster care leaders, Heidi White, Shelly Radic, Rhonda Littleton, Janelle Shelton, and Andrew Holmes about how they prioritize prayer in their lives, work, and leadership, as they serve children and families all across the country.
Cultivating Good Soil: Building strong biological families from the ground up 13.05.2025 45:20
In this episode, we imagine together what it looks like when the Church supports families even before child welfare needs to remove children from homes, as Jason talks with Clint Brauer, Jeff Chaisson, and Ariel Moore.
The Director's Chair: Shaping and sharing your story 10.09.2024 40:58
In our work we often have opportunities to share our personal stories — maybe from stage, maybe over coffee, or even in a grocery store aisle. However, we can’t talk for hours, and we don’t want to present a sanitized or unauthentic picture of our lives. We wonder, how can we balance the tensions between limited time and authenticity, vulnerability, and privacy? Today we are talking about telling...
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