The Monocle Banking Podcast

For a wide-ranging and optimistic view of how franchising can truly become a lever for economic inclusion and innovation in South Africa, Michael Avery was joined by Ayabulela Njingolo, Chairman of the Franchise Association of South Africa and executive at OBC Group. Their conversation covered where the funding gaps are and how a blended finance approach can help more entrepreneurs enter the franc...

In this episode of the Monocle Banking Podcast, Michael Avery was joined by Rentia van Tonder, Head of Power at Standard Bank CIB, to unpack the real story behind South Africa’s energy transition. From the gridlock in REIPPPP Bid Windows 5 and 6 to the looming gas cliff of 2026, they explored why financing the future of power is about capital allied to trust, transparency, and long-term partnershi...

The future of insurance may lie in the integration of technology and human understanding. This week, Michael Avery sat down with Christelle Colman, CEO of Ami, and Ron Richman, CEO of insureAI. Their discussion centres on the crucial integration of technology and human understanding, highlighting Ami's people-first digital approach and insureAI's innovative use of AI in actuarial science. Learn ho...

To delve into the progress and future plans of Operation Vulindlela - a presidential initiative to accelerate the implementation of structural reforms and support economic recovery in South Africa - Michael Avery sat down with Rudi Dicks, Head of the Project Management Office at the Presidency and lead of the initiative. Rudi shared insights on the initiative’s early wins and key lessons as it mov...

To shed light on the power of inclusive technology, Michael Avery sat down with Tumi Nomlomo, Senior Manager of Customer Advisory at SAS. They discussed SAS's responsible AI framework, which promotes inclusivity, model transparency, and stakeholder engagement. Tumi also shared insights into the infrastructure and cloud capabilities required for banks to deploy AI effectively, emphasising that true...

Can South Africa play a pivotal role in delivering affordable sustainable energy to developing nations?  Michael Avery dives into this topic with Paul Mann, CEO of ASP Isotopes, on the latest episode of the Monocle Banking Podcast. Revolutionising the isotope industry, Paul shares his insights on how South Africa is emerging as a potential global hub for isotopes and small modular reactors, highli...

After a year of operations in South Africa, Michael Avery was re-joined by Sabihah Mohamed, CEO of The Corporation for Deposit Insurance (CODI), for an insider's perspective on the nation's deposit protection framework. They delved into the organisation's first year, exploring the challenges and successes in raising awareness, and the proactive steps being taken to safeguard depositors' funds and...

This week, Michael Avery was joined by CEO of Huge Group, James Herbst. They delved into the strategic evolution of Huge Group, a South African investment firm that started as a traditional telecom player and is now positioning itself as a digital investment powerhouse. James unpacked the company's journey, including the acquisition of Virgin Mobile and the launch of NXTGN, revealing their unique...

In today’s complex dealmaking landscape, transactional risk insurance is emerging as a strategic advantage rather than just a safety net. In this episode, Michael Avery was joined by Nirav Modi, Marsh’s Private Equity and M&A Services Practice Leader for the Middle East and Africa. They explored how insurance solutions have expanded beyond traditional uses to bridge valuation gaps, instil conf...

Despite a challenging economic backdrop in South Africa, the country's major banks again displayed impressive resilience in FY2024. This week, Michael Avery sat down with PwC Africa experts Rivaan Roopnarain, Banking and Capital Markets Partner, and Francois Prinsloo, Banking and Capital Markets Leader, who highlighted that the banks' performance stemmed from balance sheet growth, rising income, a...

Having navigated the global financial crises, political challenges in South Africa, and the impacts of the COVID-19 pandemic, Anthonie de Beer, CEO of Ethos Capital, joined Michael Avery to share his industry insights, drawing on over two decades of experience in private equity. The conversation emphasised the importance of strategic decision-making, managing high-stake investments, and leveraging...

This week, Michael Avery was joined by business restructuring experts Siviwe Dongwana, Managing Director, and Bongani Nkasana, Executive Director at Adamantem, as well as Fikile Mhlontlo, CFO at Delta Property Fund, to offer crucial advice for CFOs. Their message is clear: prioritise a comprehensive business health check to proactively address potential financial risks. Drawing on insights from th...

To dive into the current state of global fintech market, Michael Avery was joined by Auguste Claude-Nguetsop, Partner at KPMG, to explore insights from the KPMG Pulse of Fintech report. They discussed the drivers behind the investment slowdown, misconceptions foreign investors have about African markets, and the regulatory challenges Fintechs face, particularly in South Africa. The conversation al...

As many municipalities across the country struggle to deliver basic services, Michael Avery sat down with Musa Jack, Programme Manager for Anglo American’s Municipal Capability and Partnership Programme (MCPP).  They discussed the programme’s efforts to strengthen municipal capacity, support long-term planning, and address systemic challenges facing local government. Musa also highlighted the impo...

Although cash remains king in South Africa, digital payments are rapidly gaining traction. In this episode, Michael Avery sat down with Katlego Maphai, the Co-founder and CEO of Yoco, a leading payments powerhouse in South Africa, to explore the evolving payments landscape in the country. They discussed how fintech payment solutions are playing a crucial role in breaking down barriers to financial...

Following the postponement of South Africa's budget speech, Michael Avery spoke with Daan Steenkamp, CEO of Codera Analytics, about the country's economic future. They discussed key issues, including persistent deficits, rising public sector wages, and the IMF's warnings about escalating national debt. Daan also emphasised that achieving fiscal sustainability requires comprehensive reforms to unlo...

Following President Trump's return to the White House, and his renewed emphasis on an 'America First' agenda, Michael Avery was joined by industry experts from XA Global Trade Advisors - Donald MacKay, CEO, and Anneke Jansen van Vuuren, Manager of Data Solutions - to explore 'Trumponomics 2.0' and its potential impact on international trade relations. They unpacked how emerging markets, particular...

AI has transformed from a simple automation tool into a powerful catalyst for innovation in the banking sector. This week, Michael Avery was joined by Eshmael Mpabanga, Banking Client Account Lead at Accenture, to explore the profound impact AI is having on the industry. Eshmael shared his insights into how AI creates opportunities for revenue generation, enhances personalised customer experiences...

To the benefit of all South Africans, our payment landscape is set for a major transformation in the next 5 years. Michael Avery discussed these impending changes with Lincoln Mali, CEO of Lesaka Technologies and President of the newly formed Association of South African Payment Providers (ASAPP). Lincoln shared his insights on how the payment rails are being opened to non-bank players, the critic...

To provide insights from a quarter-century of navigating the complexities of African dealmaking, Michael Avery sat down with Funso Akere, Head of M&A Advisory for Africa Regions at Standard Bank Group. This insightful conversation explored Nigeria's remarkable transformation, from the era of privatisation and the surge of cross-border M&A activity to the recent economic headwinds. Funso sh...

To understand the complexities of South Africa's energy transition, moving away from coal dependence towards a more sustainable future, Michael Avery sat down with Rentia van Tonder, Head of Renewable Energy, Power and Infrastructure at Standard Bank. They explored how regulatory shifts and declining renewable energy costs are expanding energy access across Africa. Rentia also elaborated on the de...

To conclude the year, our final episode for 2024 explored the dynamic landscape of Africa's insurance industry. Michael Avery was joined by Andrew Warren, Director of Deloitte’s Financial Services Advisory Business Unit, where they delved into key insights from Deloitte’s Africa Insurance Outlook 2024/25. From the resilience of South African insurers to the impact of digital innovation and climate...

For decades, South Africa hasn't been able to fully leverage our sophisticated financial sector to facilitate capital flows into the country. Fortunately, new initiatives such as Operation Phumelela have been established by industry leaders to find ways to better stimulate economic growth and job creation through policy reforms and public-private partnerships. Michael Avery was joined by two of th...

Join us as we celebrate our 50th episode of The Monocle Banking Podcast with a special guest, Emrie Brown, CEO of RMB. In this conversation with host Michael Avery, Emrie shared her unique perspective on navigating career progression as a "jungle gym" as well as outlining her strategic vision for RMB. She also explained her optimism about the future of M&A in South Africa, considering our impr...

As the world grapples with the urgent need to address climate change, David Buckham, CEO of Monocle, sat down with Michael Avery to discuss COP29 and the contradictions and hypocrisies within the climate change discourse. David highlighted South Africa's unique challenges, including heavy reliance on coal and limited access to climate finance. He emphasised the need for strategic policy decisions,...