The Modern People Leader

The Modern People Leader: Forward-Thinking HR

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Listen to interviews with CHROs, Chief People Officers, and other work experts on how they're pioneering the way that we work. They share what's working, what's not, and how they've gotten to where they're at in their careers.

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The Modern People Leader

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www.modernpeopleleader.com

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Jul 10, 2026

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Episodes

192 - The Employee Feedback Journal: Tracy Letzerich (VP of People, Wheel) 30.07.2024

Tracy Letzerich, Vice President of People at Wheel, joined us on The Modern People Leader. We discussed why feedback is the lifeblood of organizational progress, why Wheel is ditching the annual performance review, and why every manager should start keeping feedback journals with their team. ----  This episode was brought to you by Great Place To Work® . Download their Employee Retention Report he...

191 - Exos & Adam Grant's Team Explore the Four-Day Workweek: Greg Hill (Chief People Officer, Exos) 23.07.2024

Greg Hill, Chief People Officer at Exos, joined us on The Modern People Leader. We discussed Exos' Readiness Culture Code, how they measured the success of their four-day workweek experiment, and the difference between productivity and effectiveness. ----  This episode was brought to you by Great Place To Work® . Learn more at http://greatplacetowork.com/mpl . ----  (7:32) From Upstate New Yor...

190 - Melanie Naranjo (VP, People, Ethena) & Vanesa Cotlar (VP, People & Culture, PolicyMe) on Performance Management 16.07.2024

Vanesa Cotlar (VP, People & Culture, PolicyMe) and Melanie Naranjo (VP, People, Ethena) joined us on The Modern People Leader. We discussed the three questions every manager should be asking themselves about their direct reports, why setting expectations with new hires can go a long way in improving performance, and how to create a common language for employees around performance. ----  This e...

189 - Tinkering versus true transformation: Larry McAlister, (Head of Digital Transformation, Nutanix) 09.07.2024

Larry McAlister, Head of Digital Transformation at Nutanix, joined us on The Modern People Leader. We discussed what transformation looks like, the importance of defining it for your organization, and the difference between mere tinkering and true transformation. ----  This episode was brought to you by Great Place To Work® . Learn more at greatplacetowork.com/mpl . ---- (1:22) Good news stories (...

188 - “Future of HR + Modern People Leader” with JP Elliott, Stephen Huerta, & Daniel Huerta 02.07.2024

What happens when you combine two of the best HR podcasts? You are about to find out as the Modern People Leader podcast and the Future of HR podcast have come together for a special episode to share their insights from over 270 interviews.  ----  This episode was brought to you by Great Place To Work®. Learn more at greatplacetowork.com/mpl. ---- We interviewed JP on The Modern People Leader: (1:...

187 - WFH data & the 4-day workweek: Nick Bloom (Stanford Economist & Co-Founder of wfhresearch.com) 25.06.2024

Nick Bloom, Stanford Economist & Co-Founder of wfhresearch.com , joined us on The Modern People Leader. We talked about the state of WFH, managing in a hybrid environment, the four versions of the 4-day workweek, and what’s coming next for Nick. ----  This episode was brought to you by Great Place to Work ® . Download their latest research on ⁠ Return-to-Office Mandates here ⁠ . ---- (1:13) Go...

186 - Hebba Youssef (Founder & creator of I Hate it Here & Chief People Officer at Workweek) 18.06.2024

Hebba Youssef, Founder & Creator of I Hate it Here & Chief People Officer at Workweek, joined us on The Modern People Leader. We talked about the work they're doing to elevate their managers to the next level, why the CEO and Chief People Officer dynamic is challenging, and whether there has been scope creep for the CPO role. ----  This episode was brought to you by Great Place to Work...

185 - DIBs 2.0—The Key Ingredients: Erin Thomas (VP, Head of Diversity, Inclusion & Belonging, Upwork) 14.06.2024

Erin Thomas, VP, Head of Diversity, Inclusion & Belonging at Upwork, joined us on The Modern People Leader. We talked about how her team is leveraging data in their DEI work, why you need high utility DEI programs, and she shared a couple examples from the last year at Upwork. ----  This episode was brought to you by Great Place to Work . Learn more at greatplacetowork.com/mpl. ---- 1:11 Good...

184 - From Job Titles to Skills—A Vision for Future HR Leaders: Don Robertson (EVP & CHRO, Northwestern Mutual) 11.06.2024

Don Robertson, EVP & CHRO at Northwestern Mutual, joined us on The Modern People Leader. We talked about prioritizing company values over star performers, why the future of work is more about skills and less about job titles, and the real reason change takes so long in the workplace. ----  This episode was brought to you by Great Place to Work . Learn more at greatplacetowork.com/mpl. ---- (0:...

183 - Soft skills are POWER skills: Erica Spitale 07.06.2024

Erica Spitale joined us on The Modern People Leader. We talked about the current HR job market, why soft skills should be called power skills instead, and the work-life smoothie. ----  This episode was brought to you by Tilt. Learn more at hellotilt.com/mpl . ---- (2:41) Good news stories (7:28) Erica’s journey and what’s next for her (11:20) The current job market for HR leaders (14:33) How she’s...

182 - Lessons from Chief's CPO on building communities & companies: Trey Boynton (Chief Diversity & People Officer, Chief) 03.06.2024

Trey Boynton, Chief Diversity & People Officer at Chief, joined us on The Modern People Leader. We talked about why running a community is similar to HR work, where communities and companies tend to stumble, and the metric we wish existed for managers. ----  This episode was brought to you by Tilt. Learn more at hellotilt.com/mpl . ---- (2:35) Good news stories (10:50) Trey’s journey from acad...

181 - Performance Culture, HR Tech, & more: Sam Baber (SVP, People, Kalkomey Enterprises) 30.05.2024

Sam Baber, SVP of People at Kalkomey Enterprises, joined us on The Modern People Leader. We talked about the work his company is doing to build a high performance culture, why he’s consolidating their HR tech stack, and why it’s important to maintain the perspective that HR is just a job. ---- This episode was brought to you by Tilt. Learn more at hellotilt.com/mpl . ---- (2:35) Good news stories...

180 - What happens when 3 HR leaders start a business together: PeakHR Team 24.05.2024

The PeakHR team (Morgan Williams, Catalina Colman, and Kim Rohrer) joined us on The Modern People Leader. We talked about what happens when three HR leaders start a business together. ---- This episode was brought to you by Tilt. Learn more at hellotilt.com/mpl . ---- (2:18) Good news stories (11:05) The PeakHR origin story (20:00) They’ve translated their values into how they make business decisi...

179 - Rethinking our relationship with technology: Steve Cadigan (Former LinkedIn CHRO, Author & Professor) 20.05.2024

Steve Cadigan, former CHRO at LinkedIn, author, and professor, joined us on The Modern People Leader. We talked about rebuilding our relationship with technology, why every company should have an AI ethics advisory board, and where he’d start with AI if he had a blank check. ---- This episode was brought to you by Tilt. Learn more at hellotilt.com/mpl . ---- (2:27) Good news stories (7:50) Steve i...

178 - Finding a More Human-Centered Approach: Dom Boon (VP People, Liberty Latin America) 15.05.2024

Dom Boon, VP of People at Liberty Latin America, joined us on The Modern People Leader. We talked about why you should aspire to be a people leader, how their people team is impacting public policy in the markets they operate in, and how the small tweaks they’ve made to the EX have made an impact on their 10k+ employees. ---- This episode was brought to you by Tilt. Learn more at hellotilt.com/mpl...

177 - Moving to “People Ops as a Product”: Matt Bradburn (Founder, The People Collective) 10.05.2024

Matt Bradburn, Founder of The People Collective, joined us on The Modern People Leader. We talked about why the People Ops as a Product movement is picking up steam, how to pilot this approach, and the biggest pitfalls when making the change. ---- This episode was brought to you by Tilt. Learn more at hellotilt.com/mpl . ---- (2:04) Good news stories (6:36) Matt’s career journey (10:56) What The P...

176 - Building an AI roadmap for HR & 6 use cases for AI in HR: Gianna Driver (CHRO, Exabeam) 06.05.2024

Gianna Driver, CHRO at Exabeam, joined us on The Modern People Leader. We talked about how Exabeam’s HR team built their AI roadmap and which AI for HR use cases have been the most successful for them. ---- [02:00] - Good news stories [06:00] - Gianna's career journey and her unexpected path into HR [10:00] - Discussion on pivotal career moments and the importance of supportive leadership [13:...

175 - Create mini “blue zones” in your company: Laura Putnam (CEO & Founder, Motion Infusion) 01.05.2024

Laura Putnam, CEO & Founder of Motion Infusion, joined us on The Modern People Leader. We talked about the state of wellbeing, why managers are our greatest hope in getting workplace wellness to work, and the 3 simple actions every manager can take to promote wellbeing on their team. ---- Want to be one of the 10 founding members of MPL? Apply here . ---- (1:10) Good news stories (9:14) Laura’...

174 - How the Spurs are redefining their EVP: Samantha Simmons (SVP, People & Culture at Spurs Sports & Entertainment) 26.04.2024

Samantha Simmons, SVP, People & Culture at Spurs Sports & Entertainment, joined us on The Modern People Leader.  We talked about how the Spurs are redefining their Employee Value Proposition, the work they're doing to move towards a more unified culture, and what the phrase "pounding the rock" means for their organization. ---- This episode was brought to you by Pyn. Get acce...

173 - Throwing the career path away & getting back to the basics in HR: AJ Thomas (People Leader, Board Member, & Award-Winning Author) 24.04.2024

AJ Thomas, Global People Leader, Board Member, & Award-Winning Children’s Book Author, joined us on The Modern People Leader.  She shared a framework for getting back to the basics in HR, why we need to “throw away the career path”, and the 1 lesson every adult would take away from AJ’s children’s book about teams. ---- This episode was brought to you by Pyn. Go check out Pyn’s list of 50 over...

172 - All-things AI in HR with 2 Chief People Officers: David Hanrahan (Chief People Officer, Flare) & Q Hamirani (Chief People Officer, Paper) 18.04.2024

Q Hamirani (Chief People Officer, Paper) and David Hanrahan (Chief People Officer, Flare) joined us on The Modern People Leader.  We talked about HR’s role in driving your company’s AI strategy, the best use cases for AI in HR, and why you need a solid data strategy first. ---- This episode was brought to you by Deloitte. Download their FREE Generative AI and the Future of Work report.  ---- (1:17...

171 - HR Leaders wanting to work at people-first orgs - ask these questions in your interview: Stacey Nordwall (VP of People Strategy, Pyn) 11.04.2024

Stacey Nordwall, VP of People Strategy at Pyn, joined us on The Modern People Leader.  We talked about the burnout cycle in HR and where it stems from, her advice for all of the exhausted people leaders out there, and the questions you should ask during the interview process to vet out whether it’s a people-first org or not. ---- This episode was brought to you by Pyn. Get access to their Employee...

170 - The path to profitability & Dena’s value framework for evaluating career moves: Dena Upton (Head of People, Dandy) 04.04.2024

Dena Upton, Head of People at Dandy, joined us on The Modern People Leader.  We talked about the value framework that she uses to evaluate big career moves, building out the employee value proposition at Dandy, and how their path to profitability is providing employees with more career equity. ---- This episode was brought to you by Pyn. Get access to their Employee Journey Designer here . ---- (1...

169 - Everything a Spreadsheet WON’T Tell You: Colleen McCreary, 6x CPO (Credit Karma, Zynga, Twilio, & more) turned VC 29.03.2024

Colleen McCreary, a 6x Chief People Officer turned VC, joined us on The Modern People Leader.  We talked about how her superpower as a VC is being able to look beyond just the spreadsheet, the lesson she learned early on about profitability giving you freedom, and why the VC world should be bringing in more people from HR. ---- This episode was brought to you by Pyn. Get access to their Employee J...

168 - It’s hard to move the needle in HR because it’s set up that way: Anessa Fike (Author, 14x Chief People Officer, & Founder of Fike+Co) 27.03.2024

Anessa Fike, Author & “Queen of Fractional HR”, joined us on The Modern People Leader.  We talked about what’s contributed to her success as a fractional people leader, why it’s hard to move the needle in HR, and why we need to stop going through motions in HR. ---- If you’re an HR leader that’s trying to uplevel your managers’ 1x1 meetings, check out Leapsome’s FREE Meeting’s Module . ---- (1...

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