The Modern People Leader
The Modern People Leader: Forward-Thinking HR
Listen to interviews with CHROs, Chief People Officers, and other work experts on how they're pioneering the way that we work. They share what's working, what's not, and how they've gotten to where they're at in their careers.
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Oct 27, 2026
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Episodes
341 - “80% of our Engineering Applicants Are Fake”: Inside the Candidate Fraud Crisis 27.10.2026 57:56
Liz Bronson (Chief People Officer, Skimmer) and Sean Page (TA Manager, Propel) joined us on The Modern People Leader. We talked about the rise of candidate fraud, why traditional hiring processes are becoming harder to trust, and how recruiters are rethinking sourcing, candidate verification, interview techniques, and technology to find real talent. ---- Sponsor Links: 🔗 Request a demo of Shap...
340 - How Citizens Helps Leaders Build IQ, EQ, TQ, and MQ: Susan LaMonica (CHRO, Citizens) 23.10.2026 46:15
Susan LaMonica, the CHRO at Citizens, joined us on The Modern People Leader. We talked about how Citizens transformed its leadership and culture, why leadership is the most important lever for organizational success, and how its new leadership framework combines intelligence, technology, emotional intelligence, and meaning to develop adaptive leaders. ---- Sponsor Links: 🔗 Learn more about Til...
339 - When People Grow, the Company Grows: Katarina Berg (Chief People Officer, On) 19.10.2026 58:25
Katarina Berg, Chief People Officer at On, joined us on The Modern People Leader. We talked about her journey from Spotify to On, why performance growth is more powerful than performance management, and how people, leadership, curiosity, learning, and AI will shape the next era of work. ---- Sponsor Links: 🔗 Request a demo of Shapes 🔗 Learn more about SixFifty MPL Links: 🔗 Go sign up for MPL...
338 - How Edward Jones Builds Inclusion into Everyday Business Decisions 14.10.2026 49:12
Vanessa Okwuraiwe, Head of Inclusion & Accessibility, joined us on The Modern People Leader. We talked about how inclusion work has moved deeper into the business, why purpose matters at Edward Jones, and how human judgment, client trust, accessibility, and AI are shaping the future of financial services. ---- Sponsor Links: 🔗 Schedule a consultation with Manifest 🔗 Request a demo of Shap...
337 - Who benefits from AI gains? (Andy Doyle, Chief People & Agent Officer at Kantar) 09.10.2026 56:06
Andy Doyle, Chief People & Agent Officer at Kantar, joined us on The Modern People Leader. We talked about Kantar’s agentic HR transformation, why the future workforce will be a mix of humans and agents, and the four dimensions of AI we should be looking at when we think about who benefits from the AI gains. ---- Sponsor Links: 🔗 Explore the 2026 Deloitte Human Capital Trends Report 🔗 S...
Build - Onboarding, L&D, & building in the AI era 06.10.2026 56:40
Luca Oake and Jessica Zwaan joined us on The Modern People Leader. We talked about building scalable L&D, why onboarding should be outcomes-focused instead of input-focused, and how AI, strong project runways, iteration, and builder mindsets can help people teams move faster. ---- Sponsor Links: 🔗 Request a demo of Shapes 🔗 Learn more about Tilt at hellotilt.com/mpl 🔗 Learn more about Beq...
335 - Why This CEO Says High Output Management No Longer Works in the AI Era 02.10.2026 50:36
Dan Mishin, Founder & CEO of Manifest OS, joined us on The Modern People Leader. We talked about how Manifest is rebuilding immigration law for the AI era, why talent strategy now requires faster, more creative support for global employees, and how AI-native companies are changing management, engineering teams, vendor strategy, and the war for 10X talent. ---- Sponsor Links: 🔗 Schedule a c...
334 - The Change Episode: Laura McGann (Chief People Officer, Prosci) 29.09.2026 1:00:15
Laura McGann joined us on The Modern People Leader. We talked about why change management no longer feels like the right term, how the ADKAR framework helps people name where they are stuck, and what leaders need to do as AI, velocity, overwhelm, and constant change reshape work. ---- Sponsor Links: 🔗 Request a demo of Shapes 🔗 Learn more about Tilt at hellotilt.com/mpl 🔗 Explore the 2026 De...
333 - Vercel's 2-Week Review Cycle & Flight Risk Tool: Olivia Williams (Head of HR, Vercel) 26.09.2026 54:48
Olivia Williams joined us on The Modern People Leader. We talked about how Vercel shortened its performance review cycle from 11 weeks to two weeks and how they built a 15-factor flight risk tool to retain top talent. ---- Sponsor Links: 🔗 Request a demo of Shapes MPL Links: 🔗 Go sign up for MPL Build . ---- (12:25) Why Vercel Rethought Its Performance Review Cycle (13:35) Realizing Vercel...
332 - Deciding what to keep & what to kill as your company scales: Conor Sweeney, VP, Head of People & Talent, Form Health 22.09.2026 1:06:31
Conor Sweeney joined us on The Modern People Leader. We talked about what it's looked like to scale culture while doubling in size every year for three years straight. ---- Sponsor Links: 🔗 Schedule a consultation with Manifest 🔗 Learn more about Tilt at hellotilt.com/mpl 🔗 Explore the 2026 Deloitte Human Capital Trends Report MPL Links: 🔗 Go sign up for MPL Build . ---- (12:05) Lesso...
331 - Designing the org of the future: Alexis Fink (Advisor at OpenAI & Workvivo) 18.09.2026 1:03:24
Alexis Fink joined us on The Modern People Leader. We talked about how AI is changing work, why org design needs to move beyond boxes and lines, and how curiosity, influence, courage, and better systems thinking can help people leaders design for the future. ---- Sponsor Links: 🔗 Schedule a consultation with Manifest 🔗 Learn more about Tilt at hellotilt.com/mpl 🔗 Learn more about SixFifty MPL...
330 - A career in pivots: Dean Carter on purpose, play, and taking big swings 17.09.2026 1:05:02
Dean Carter (Best-Selling Author, 4x CHRO, & CEO of Instill) joined us on The Modern People Leader. We talked about the career pivots that shaped his life, what Patagonia taught him about purpose and play, and why trusting your gut, taking big swings, and doing the right thing can lead you somewhere better than the plan you originally had. ---- Sponsor Links: 🔗 Explore the 2026 Deloitte...
329 - Why Match is tripling down on Gen Z talent: D.V. Williams (Chief People Officer, Match Group) 11.09.2026 53:31
D.V. Williams, Chief People Officer from Match Group joined us on The Modern People Leader. We talked about why Match is betting on Gen Z talent, how skills are replacing titles as the new currency of work, and how Match is thinking about flexible mentorship and early-career programs. ---- Sponsor Links: 🔗 Learn more about Beqom at beqom.com/mpl 🔗 Learn more about Tilt at hellotilt.com/mpl MPL...
328 - Christy Lake (CAO, Twilio) on designing for a future nobody can see 08.09.2026 55:58
Christy Lake, Chief Administrative Officer at Twilio, joined us on The Modern People Leader. We talked about how AI is changing work, why skills, governance, and human judgment matter more than ever, and how Twilio is thinking about remote-first work, employee experience, and curiosity in the AI era. ---- Sponsor Links: 🔗 Learn more about SixFifty 🔗 Explore the 2026 Deloitte Human Capital Tre...
327 - Putting AI agents on the org chart: Becks Port (Chief People Officer, Okta) 04.09.2026 44:49
Becks Port, Chief People Officer at Okta, joined us on The Modern People Leader. We talked about why AI agents should be treated like digital coworkers, how Okta is thinking about agents on the org chart, and what the future of HR, career development, security, and team design could look like as humans work alongside machines. ---- Sponsor Links: 🔗 Learn more about Beqom at beqom.com/mpl 🔗 Lea...
326 - Never let an LLM do the math on comp. Do this instead. 02.09.2026 59:16
Clare Bonham (Chief Product Officer) and Sébastien Baehni (CTO) from beqom joined us on The Modern People Leader. We talked about how managers can make better pay and performance decisions, why AI should support but not replace human judgment, and what intentional AI looks like in compensation. ---- Downloadable PDF with top takeaways: https://modernpeopleleader.kit.com/episode326 Sponsor Lin...
325 - The M&A Field Guide for CPOs: Heather Dunn (Chief People Officer, Brex) 28.08.2026 1:01:47
Heather Dunn, Chief People Officer at Brex, joined us on The Modern People Leader. We talked about Brex’s rapid acquisition by Capital One and how Heather led through diligence, communication, and integration. ---- Sponsor Links: 🔗 Explore the 2026 Deloitte Human Capital Trends Report 🔗 Learn more about SixFifty MPL Links: 🔗 Go sign up for MPL Build . ---- (20:45) Joining Brex During a Com...
324 - The GRIT Performance Framework: Patsy Mangan (Chief People Officer, Scribd) 25.08.2026 58:01
Patsy Mangan joined us on The Modern People Leader. We talked about Scribd Flex, why flexibility only works when it is paired with clarity and accountability, and why Scribd needed the GRIT Performance framework. ---- Sponsor Links: 🔗 Learn more about SixFifty 🔗 Learn more about Tilt at hellotilt.com/mpl 🔗 Learn more about Beqom at beqom.com/mpl MPL Links: 🔗 Go sign up for MPL Build . ---- ...
323 - How ServiceNow's AI heat map answers "what does my job look like in 3 years": Brandon Roberts (SVP Talent Strategy & Workforce Transformation, ServiceNow) 21.08.2026 1:02:48
Brandon Roberts, leader of Talent Strategy and Workforce Transformation at ServiceNow, joined us on The Modern People Leader. We talked about how ServiceNow is redesigning HR for the AI era, why every role needs to be mapped for AI impact, and more. ---- Sponsor Links: 🔗 Learn more about Tilt at hellotilt.com/mpl 🔗Learn more about Beqom at beqom.com/mpl 🔗. Explore the 2026 Deloitte Human Cap...
The 3 archetypes of the future people team & Jessica Zwaan's first 4 Months in New Role 18.08.2026 42:37
Jessica Zwaan joined us on The Modern People Leader. We talked about her first four months at Leapsome, why HR needs to operate more like a product team, and how AI agents, forward-deployed engineers, and flexible HR systems could reshape the future of people operations. ---- Sponsor Links: 🔗 Learn more about SixFifty MPL Links: 🔗 Go sign up for MPL Build . ---- (11:40) Jessie’s 12-Week Spri...
321 - Molly Graham (WorkLife Podcast) on Why Everyone Just Became a Manager 14.08.2026 58:24
Molly Graham, Host of WorkLife Podcast & Co-Founder of Glue Club and The Guild, joined us on The Modern People Leader. We talked about career emergence, why fear is slowing down AI adoption at work, and why the future of HR will depend on leaders who can create clarity, curiosity, accountability, and better management habits for both people and AI agents. ---- Sponsor Links: 🔗 Learn more a...
320 - How Moxie's COO built an AI strategy for a people business: Kate Connor, COO, Moxie 10.08.2026 58:19
Kate Connor, Chief Operating Officer at Moxie Communications Group, joined us on The Modern People Leader. We talked about how Moxie is adopting AI safely, why leaders should automate low-judgment work first, and how to embed AI into the culture without replacing human creativity, judgment, and relationships. ---- Sponsor Links: 🔗 Learn more about SixFifty 🔗 Learn more about Tilt at hellotilt...
319 - The Psych Safety Playbook: Davida Lindsay-Bell (Chief People Officer, Hanna Andersson) 04.08.2026 59:12
Davida Lindsay-Bell, Chief People Officer at Hanna Andersson, joined us on The Modern People Leader. We talked about why AI transformation needs to start with people, how Hanna Andersson operationalized psychological safety, and why trust, learning, and intelligent failure are the foundation for lasting change. ---- Sponsor Links: 🔗 Learn more about Tilt at hellotilt.com/mpl 🔗 Learn more abou...
318 - The #1 Place To Work in The World: Laura Fuentes (CHRO, Hilton) 31.07.2026 1:00:03
Laura Fuentes, CHRO at Hilton, joined us on The Modern People Leader. We talked about Hilton’s hospitality mindset, why great leaders should operate like great hosts, and how Hilton scales culture, listening, recognition, and purpose across more than 500,000 team members. ---- Sponsor Links: 🔗 Learn more about Beqom at beqom.com/mpl 🔗 Explore the 2026 Deloitte Human Capital Trends Report 🔗...
What Job Is Your Job Doing (Purpose and Work): Jessica Zwaan 25.07.2026 41:46
Jessie Zwaan, author of Purpose and Work and Built for People , joined us on The Modern People Leader. We talked about why the old purpose-at-work narrative is breaking, how people relate to work through jobs, careers, and callings, and why HR leaders need to rethink how they build meaning into work. ---- Sponsor Links: 🔗 Learn more about Beqom at beqom.com/mpl 🔗 Learn more about Tilt at hello...
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