Patricia Pino & Christian Reilly
The MMT Podcast with Patricia Pino & Christian Reilly
The MMT Podcast offers economic analysis on current issues from a Modern Monetary Theory perspective. Aimed at anyone who has ever felt lost in the jargon used by mainstream economics commentators. We believe economics is for everyone. You can help sustain this podcast via Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/MMTpodcast
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Jun 29, 2026
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Episodes
#215 Bullied By The Bond Market - Will The Next Prime Minister Make The Same Mistakes As The Last? 29.06.2026 1:09:38
In the wake of Kier Starmer's exit as leader of the Labour Party, Patricia and Christian examine the prospects of the presumed next leader of the Labour Party and the country, Andy Burnham, being able to stand up to the not-so-subtle bullying from the financial press over his economic policy. Please help sustain this podcast! Patrons get early access to all episodes and patron-only episodes: h...
#214 Live: A Job Guarantee For The UK with Patricia Pino and Bill Mitchell (part 2) 16.06.2026 27:40
Part 2: On 25 February 2026, MMT UK launched with a flagship public event featuring Professor Bill Mitchell, one of the original architects of Modern Monetary Theory, alongside the publication of MMT UK's first policy paper - "A Job Guarantee for the UK". This is the Q&A session from that event. Special thanks to Damian Coldwell for recording and post-production, and Chris Bland for the transcript...
#213 Live: A Job Guarantee For The UK with Patricia Pino and Bill Mitchell 13.06.2026 1:04:57
On 25 February 2026, MMT UK launched with a flagship public event featuring Professor Bill Mitchell, one of the original architects of Modern Monetary Theory, alongside the publication of MMT UK's first policy paper - "A Job Guarantee for the UK". This is the audio of that event. Special thanks to Damian Coldwell for recording and post-production, and Chris Bland for the transcript (see attached P...
#212 From Austerity To Resilience - How to Build a Better Economy with Steven Hail 10.06.2026 1:10:21
Patricia and Christian talk to Professor Steven Hail about the current state of economic discourse in anticipation of his upcoming workshops in Brighton (20th June, also featuring Patricia, Christian, and Green Party councillor and economist Sheridan Kates), Stockholm (27th June), and Brussels (28th June), entitled "From Austerity To Resilience - How to Build a Better Economy", which will empower...
#211 A Time-Critical Plan For UK Energy Prices And Security with Patricia Pino 02.06.2026 1:13:31
A conversation with Patricia Pino about her recent paper, "From Price Taker To Price Shaper: A Time-Critical Plan For UK Energy Prices And Security". Please help sustain this podcast! Patrons get early access to all episodes and patron-only episodes: https://www.patreon.com/MMTpodcast Relevant to this episode: "From Price Taker To Price Shaper: A Time-Critical Plan For UK Energy Prices And...
#210 MMT and International Trade with Dr Phil Armstrong (part 2) 13.05.2026 43:12
Part 2: Patricia and Christian continue the conversation with economist and author Dr Phil Armstrong about his recent paper, "Modern Monetary Theory and International Trade: Developments on the Base Case for Analysis". Full conversation here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/155949704?pr=true Please help sustain this podcast! Patrons get early access to all episodes and patron-only episodes: ht...
#209 MMT and International Trade with Dr Phil Armstrong (part 1) 28.04.2026 53:13
#209 MMT and International Trade with Dr Phil Armstrong (part 1) Patricia and Christian talk to economist and author Dr Phil Armstrong about his recent paper, "Modern Monetary Theory and International Trade: Developments on the Base Case for Analysis". Full conversation here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/155949704?pr=true Please help sustain this podcast! Patrons get early access to all e...
#208 The Fauxbel Prize: Top Lies In Economics 2026 with Dr Phil Armstrong (part 2) 17.03.2026 1:04:06
Patricia and Christian talk to economist and author Dr Phil Armstrong about the least useful pieces of economic commentary from the last 12 months. In this episode: 5. "Quantitative Easing causes 'asset price inflation'" 6. "Fiscal 'headroom'" 7. "The 'labour market' needs 'softening' (and monetary policy should be used to do it)" 8. "Progressive policies will weaken the pound!" 9. "Understandin...
#207 Business Cycles Without The Body Count with Professor John T Harvey 13.03.2026 1:06:24
Patricia and Christian talk to economist and author Professor John T Harvey about his latest book, "US business cycles from 1954-2020", his evergreen "Contending Perspectives In Economics", and solutions to an inherently unstable system. Please help sustain this podcast! Patrons get early access to all episodes and patron-only episodes: https://www.patreon.com/MMTpodcast Relevant to this episode:...
#206 The Fauxbel Prize: Top Lies In Economics 2026 with Dr Phil Armstrong (part 1) 19.02.2026 1:03:21
Patricia and Christian talk to economist and author Dr Phil Armstrong about the least useful pieces of economic commentary from the last 12 months. In this episode: "Sure, the government *can* create money… (but it shouldn't)" "It's okay for the government to 'borrow'… if it's investing" "The national debt is a time bomb!" "Government 'borrowing' is okay… when interest rates are low" More to f...
#205 Economics At The Movies with Sam Levey 24.12.2025 1:32:16
Patricia & Christian talk to economist Dr Sam Levey about films set in the world of finance, including Trading Places, The Big Short, The Wolf Of Wall Street, Boiler Room and Inside Job. (Conversation recorded in 2023). Please help sustain this podcast! Patrons get early access to all episodes and patron-only episodes: https://www.patreon.com/MMTpodcast LIVE EVENT! THE FAUXBEL PRIZE IN ECONO...
#204 A Government Budget Is Nothing Like A Household Budget. So What IS It Like? with Steven Hail 17.12.2025 1:23:43
Patricia and Christian talk to Professor Steven Hail about some of the tricky questions progressive leaders and activists are facing. The conversation explores Zack Polanski's bold media messaging, bond market myths, and the historic opportunity for MMT-informed politics in the UK. Please help sustain this podcast! Patrons get early access to all episodes and patron-only episodes: https://www....
#204 A Government Budget Is Nothing Like A Household Budget. So What IS It Like? with Steven Hail 17.12.2025 1:23:43
Patricia and Christian talk to Professor Steven Hail about some of the tricky questions progressive leaders and activists are facing. The conversation explores Zack Polanski's bold media messaging, bond market myths, and the historic opportunity for MMT-informed politics in the UK. Please help sustain this podcast! Patrons get early access to all episodes and patron-only episodes: https://www....
#203 Zackonomics and the budget with Phil Armstrong (part 2) 23.11.2025 47:48
(Part 2) Patricia and Christian talk to Dr Phil Armstrong about the upcoming UK budget, and Green Party leader Zack Polanski's positive views of MMT. Full conversation here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/142975558 Please help sustain this podcast! Patrons get early access to all episodes and patron-only episodes: https://www.patreon.com/MMTpodcast All our episodes in chronological order:...
#202 Zackonomics and the budget with Phil Armstrong (part 1) 14.11.2025 54:45
(Part 1) Patricia and Christian talk to Dr Phil Armstrong about the upcoming UK budget, and Green Party leader Zack Polanski's positive views of MMT. Full conversation here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/142975558 Please help sustain this podcast! Patrons get early access to all episodes and patron-only episodes: https://www.patreon.com/MMTpodcast All our episodes in chronological order:...
#201 Anything we can actually do, we can afford: The Anti-austerity Conference with Phil Armstrong (part 2) 04.09.2025 54:03
(Part 2) Patricia and Christian continue their conversation with Dr Phil Armstrong about recent events in the world of government budgeting, and the upcoming Anti-Austerity Conference on September 12th-13th. Full conversation here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/135071185?pr=true&cr=true Please help sustain this podcast! Patrons get early access to all episodes and patron-only episodes: https...
#200 Anything we can actually do, we can afford: The Anti-austerity Conference with Phil Armstrong (part 1) 07.08.2025 49:55
Patricia and Christian talk to Dr Phil Armstrong about recent events in the world of government budgeting, and the upcoming Anti-Austerity Conference on September 12th-13th. Full conversation here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/135071185?pr=true&cr=true Please help sustain this podcast! Patrons get early access to all episodes and patron-only episodes: https://www.patreon.com/MMTpodcast ...
#199 The Money Myths Fuelling Right-Wing Populism with Jakob Feinig 20.06.2025 1:02:38
Christian talks to Professor Jakob Feinig about how right-wing politics is bolstered by the myth that humans are part of a mechanism they can neither understand nor change - The Market - and the efforts to further its mystification, known as "monetary silencing". Please help sustain this podcast! Patrons get early access to all episodes and patron-only episodes: https://www.patreon.com/MMTpodc...
#198 How Captured Economics Stole Our Future & What To Do About It with Katy Shields 06.06.2025 1:04:29
Patricia and Christian talk with recovering mainstream economist Katy Shields about the ways in which economists and their backers have warped global politics to the point where we and our life-sustaining planet have become secondary concerns to the primary goal of "growth". Please help sustain this podcast! Patrons get early access to all episodes and patron-only episodes: https://www.patreon...
#197 The Problem With Wealth Taxes with Steven Hail (part 2) 02.05.2025 1:10:15
Part 2: Patricia and Christian continue their conversation with economist, author, and founder of Modern Money Lab Professor Professor Steven Hail about the well-intentioned (taxing the rich is good!) but counter-productive call for a wealth tax to "fund" life-saving support for vulnerable people (needlessly waiting for the rich to cough up while people suffer and die is bad!) and, of course - tho...
#196 The Problem With Wealth Taxes with Steven Hail (part 1) 18.04.2025 1:02:04
Part 1: Patricia and Christian talk with economist, author, and founder of Modern Money Lab Professor Steven Hail about the well-intentioned but counter-productive call for a wealth tax to "fund" vital support for vulnerable people. Full conversation here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/126627127 Please help sustain this podcast! Patrons get early access to all episodes and patron-only epis...
#195 Capitalists Hate Capitalism with Cory Doctorow 22.03.2025 1:19:01
Patricia and Christian talk with author and activist Cory Doctorow about capitalism, culture and… [checks notes] marshmallows! Please help sustain this podcast! Patrons get early access to all episodes and patron-only episodes: https://www.patreon.com/MMTpodcast All our episodes in chronological order: https://www.patreon.com/posts/43111643 All our patron-only episodes: https://www.pat...
#194 The Appallingly Bad Economics Of Elon Musk with Dr Dirk Ehnts 13.03.2025 1:28:02
Patricia and Christian talk with economist and author Dr Dirk Ehnts about Elon Musk's nonsensical ideas about how the money system works. Please help sustain this podcast! Patrons get early access to all episodes and patron-only episodes: https://www.patreon.com/MMTpodcast All our episodes in chronological order: https://www.patreon.com/posts/43111643 All our patron-only episodes: http...
#193 The Fauxbel Prize: Top Lies In Economics 2024 with Dr Phil Armstrong (part 2) 31.01.2025 54:52
Part 2: Patricia and Christian continue their conversation with economist and author Dr Phil Armstrong about the least useful pieces of economic coverage from 2024. This episode: 7) "Markets are natural!" 8) "Banks create all the money!" 9) Labour's Fiscal rule 10) "The government is helpless!" Full conversation here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/patron-only-top-119833826 Please help sust...
#192 The Fauxbel Prize: Top Lies In Economics 2024 with Dr Phil Armstrong (part 1) 18.01.2025 57:40
Patricia and Christian talk with economist and author Dr Phil Armstrong about the least useful pieces of economic coverage from 2024. This episode: "The fiscal black hole!" "Taxpayer money!" "Government 'borrowing!'" "Bond vigilantes!" More to follow in part 2. Full episode here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/patron-only-top-119833826 Please help sustain this podcast! Patrons get early acc...
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