People | Process | Things — Indra Klavins
The Messy Middle Matters
The Messy Middle Matters® is where we explore the hidden dynamics shaping how organizations actually work—from invisible work and decision-making to leadership, change, and the patterns that emerge when people build together.
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People | Process | Things — Indra Klavins
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Mar 25, 2026
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Episodes
Ep 04: Making the Invisible Work Count (Glue Work) 26.03.2025 26:36
Some work is easy to measure—deadlines met, projects delivered, goals achieved. But what about the work that holds everything together? In this episode, Indra and Amanda discuss their journey of recognizing Glue Work, the often invisible tasks that keep teams functioning but rarely get acknowledged. They share how naming this work was a crucial first step and explore strategies to make it visible,...
Ep 03: The Overdiagnosis of Impostor Syndrome 19.03.2025 24:05
Impostor syndrome is often framed as an internal struggle, but what if the real issue isn’t impostor syndrome, but something else? In this episode, Indra and Amanda explore the fine line between impostor syndrome and the discomfort of learning something new. They also share a real-life workplace experience where they initially thought they were battling self-doubt—only to uncover a deeper, system...
Ep 02: Words Matter 12.03.2025 34:39
The way we define and communicate ideas—whether through common language, acronyms, or company-specific terms—shapes how we work together. Without a shared vocabulary, teams risk misalignment, confusion, and even chaos. In this episode, we explore why shared understanding is foundational to navigating the messy middle. We’ll dig deeper into what the messy middle really means and why it deserves an...
Ep 01: Welcome to The Messy Middle 10.03.2025 12:56
The messy middle—it’s that chaotic, uncertain, sometimes frustrating space between where you started and where you want to be. It’s the part of the journey that rarely makes it into the highlight reel, but it’s where the real work happens. In this first episode, we introduce The Messy Middle Matters and why this often-overlooked stage of work and life deserves more attention. We’ll share our exper...
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