Emma CW Ceruti and Miriam Spies

The Mad and Crip Theology Podcast

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This podcast is hosted by Emma CW Ceruti and Miriam Spies. We are disabled and crip theologians who want to contribute to change. Join us as we talk with theologians, artists, activists, writers and members of the disabled/crip and mad communities who are doing important work in Canada and around the world. This podcast is an opportunity to model how faith communities can engage in theological and spiritual conversations around madness and cripness. For accessibility, transcripts are included beside the podcast description. Watch the podcast with captions on our YouTube page here: https://www....

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Emma CW Ceruti and Miriam Spies

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Latest episode

May 8, 2026

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Season 5 Episode 1: Crip Wisdom with Emma, Greg, Michelle, and Cathy 08.05.2026

Send us Fan Mail We're so excited to be back on the Mad and Crip Theology Podcast! Miriam sits down with Emma (new co-editor and co-host!), Greg, Michelle, and Cathy to talk about their publication in the latest issue of The Canadian Journal of Theology, Mental Health, and Disability: (Re)Defining Disability Theology: Returning to Its Liberatory Roots Here's the abstract: Rather than bei...

Season 4 Episode 11: Micah Perez and iowyth ulthiin on artistic expression & neurodiversity 25.07.2025

Send us Fan Mail 🎙️ Mad & Crip Theology Podcast – Micah Perez & iowyth ulthiin  In this episode, Amy Panton and Miriam Spies sit down with two remarkable contributors to the Fall 2024 issue of the Canadian Journal of Theology, Mental Health and Disability: Micah and io. Together, they explore the complexities of embodiment, spirituality, artistic expression, and the deep work of healing. I...

Season 4 Episode 10: Laura C. Robb and Corey Parish on Holistic Theologies and Unexpected Homes 27.06.2025

Send us Fan Mail In this episode, we sit down with Laura C. Robb and Corey Parish to explore the heart of their contributions to the Canadian Journal of Theology, Mental Health, and Disability. Laura shares her reflections on holistic care – what it means to treat health and theology as deeply interconnected – and invites us into the layered questions she holds when navigating systems of care as a...

Season 4 Episode 9: Kay Louise Aldred and Katherine Schneider 30.05.2025

Send us Fan Mail In this episode of the Mad and Crip Theology Podcast , we sit down with Kay Louise Aldred and Kathie Schneider to explore spiritual abuse, belonging, and faith through neurodivergent and disabled lenses. Kay talks about the urgent need for safeguarding in faith and wellness spaces, especially for neurodivergent women and girls, and shares red and green flags for healthy spiritual...

Season 4 Episode 8: Luna Harlow on Spiritual Trauma & Storytelling 25.04.2025

Send us Fan Mail In this episode of the Mad & Crip Theology Podcast, Amy and Miriam are joined by special guest Luna Harlow for a thoughtful, grounded conversation on spiritual trauma and the beauty of storytelling. Together, they explore how faith communities can harm and heal, and how naming our experiences can open up space for care, reflection, and resistance. Expect some Friday brain mome...

Season 4 Episode 7: Laura Sergeant and Beth Anne Fisher - Grief, Memory & Care 28.03.2025

Send us Fan Mail In this episode, we sit down with Laura and Beth Anne to explore the intersections of grief, disability, memory, and creativity.  Laura reflects on the complexities of being a sibling to a disabled brother, Matt, and how writing transformed the way she shows up in that relationship. We talk about how medical systems shape our understanding of identity and how memory can both ancho...

Season 4 Episode 6: Disability, Dignity, and Faith Communities with Robbie Walker & Ty Ragan 28.02.2025

Send us Fan Mail 🎙️ In this episode of the Mad & Crip Theology Podcast, we sit down with Robbie Walker and Ty Ragan to dive into their work and the larger conversations happening in our community around disability justice and faith. Robbie reflects on the tensions between Pentecostal theology and disability justice, exploring how healing can be about dignity and agency rather than spectacle. T...

Season 4 Episode 5: Becky Jones - Imago Dei Belongs in Community 08.11.2024

Send us Fan Mail Today we talk with Becky Jones about her piece "Imago Dei Belongs in Community: A Classroom Project that Invites Disabled People to Reflect on Biblical Passages About Disability."  You can view Becky's paintings here: https://jps.library.utoronto.ca/index.php/cjtmhd/article/view/42978/32607 Watch on YouTube with closed captions here: https://youtu.be/zZb9rxK83Dw Fol...

Season 4 Episode 4: Zoughbi Zoughbi, Director of Wiam Centre 07.09.2024

Send us Fan Mail We are privileged to be joined today by Zoughbi Zoughbi who wrote "Trauma and Resistance: Wiam Centre in Palestine."   Read his piece here: https://jps.library.utoronto.ca/index.php/cjtmhd/article/view/42975 Abstract: There is no nation, community, or individuals without passing through conflict, suffering, stress or trauma. Suffering is very essential for our growth bec...

Season 4, Episode 3: Vicki Marie & Shauna Kubossek 09.08.2024

Send us Fan Mail On this episode we speak with Vicki Marie and Shauna Kubossek, two contributors to the Spring 2024 issue of The Canadian Journal of Theology, Mental Health, and Disability on Trauma and Resistance. About her poem, "To Know and To Grow," Vicki shares: I attended Catholic parochial school in the early 1950’s and was the only African American there for six years.  It took m...

Season 4, Episode 2: Sarah Travis 05.07.2024

Send us Fan Mail On this episode of the Mad and Crip Theology Podcast we talk with Rev. Dr. Sarah Travis about her Invited Commentary "Of Ghost Stories and Field Hospitals: Worship Leadership Amid Trauma."  Read Sarah's commentary here:  https://jps.library.utoronto.ca/index.php/cjtmhd/article/view/42973 Follow us on Facebook and/or Instagram Read the Journal

Season 4, Episode 1: Konnie Vissers and Wendy Cabell on Sexual Abuse and Trauma and "So How Are You Today?" 02.06.2024

Send us Fan Mail We are back after a brief hiatus! This episode features a conversation with Konnie Vissers and Wendy Cabell, two contributors to the Spring (2024) issue of The Canadian Journal of Mental Health, Disability, and Theology: Trauma and Resistance. Find Konnie's piece "Sexual Abuse Trauma, Mental Health, and Theology: Why Theology in Practice Matters to Survivors" here:...

Season 3, Episode 7: Allen Jorgenson and Laura MacGregor 08.12.2023

Send us Fan Mail Join Amy and Miriam as they talk with Allen Jorgenson and Laura MacGregor about their recent book: "Beyond Saints and Superheroes: Supporting Parents Raising Children with Disabilities - A Practical Guide for Faith Communities." Proudly published by The Mad and Crip Theology Press (Amy Panton, Founder/Publisher). Available with captions on YouTube:  https://youtu.be/4-uw...

Season 3 Episode 6: Delightful Chat with Anonymous 14.11.2023

Send us Fan Mail This month we talk with Anonymous about their piece, "On Care and Control." Read the full piece: https://jps.library.utoronto.ca/index.php/cjtmhd/article/view/40814 We talk about interdependency, care as control, care as mutual, and the desire to be mediocre and celebrate mediocracy!  Have a listen/watch! Check out 10 Principles of Disability Justice by Sins Invalid: htt...

Season 3, Episode 5: Anita Belliveau & Conni Cartlidge 29.09.2023

Send us Fan Mail Join Amy and Miriam in their conversation with Anita Belliveau and Conni Cartlidge as they reflect on caring for their parents and all the emotions/relationship dynamics of that time of life. We encourage you to read, reflect on, and discuss both of their pieces in the Spring 2023 issue:  https://jps.library.utoronto.ca/index.php/cjtmhd Let us know what conversations / ideas this...

Season 3, Episode 4: Emily Duggan & Keith Reynolds 25.08.2023

Send us Fan Mail Join us for an episode featuring Emily Duggan and Keith Reynolds, clergy in The United Church of Canada.  They reflect with Amy and Miriam on experiences of caregiving and care-receiving: Emily with her daughter and Keith with a member of Avondale United in Stratford. Watch on Youtube with subtitles here: https://youtu.be/t-aKY4Kacyo We encourage you to read, reflect on, and discu...

Season 3, Episode 3: Susan Fish, Laszlo & Elly Sarkany 28.07.2023

Send us Fan Mail On this episode, we speak with Susan Fish, Laszlo and Elly Sarkany about their experiences with caregiving for their parents.  Their pieces and our conversation weaves together stories filled with grief, joy, connection and love.  We encourage you to read their stories and listen to their reflections. Susan's piece on reading Watership Down to her father is here: https://jps....

Season 3, Episode 2: Dorothy Palmer and Heather Morgan 29.06.2023

Send us Fan Mail On this episode we talk with Heather Morgan and Dorothy Palmer about disability justice, creating a WhatsApp group to support parents raising children with disabilities, politics related to disability and how it feels to be a Canadian senior who lives with disabilities both now and during the pandemic. Follow us on Facebook and/or Instagram Read the Journal

Season 3, Episode 1: Erin Raffety, "From Inclusion to Justice" 26.05.2023

Send us Fan Mail Amy & Miriam speak with Erin Raffety, author of "From Inclusion to Justice: Disability, Ministry, and Congregational Leadership." She is joined by her daughter, Lucia. To purchase the book, visit https://www.baylorpress.com/9781481316941/from-inclusion-to-justice/ Follow us on Facebook and/or Instagram Read the Journal

Season 2, Episode 15: Elena Goldak on A Critical Disability Reading of Queer Conversion Violence 21.04.2023

Send us Fan Mail On this episode, Amy and Miriam speak with Elena Goldak on her article: They Shall Surely Be Put to Death: A Critical Disability Reading of Queer Conversion Violence.   Elena writes, "This essay is an inquiry into the relationship between queer conversion violence (QCV) and forms of suicidal violence. I am particularly interested in the ways that queer people come to particip...

Season 2, Episode 14: Daryna Skybina on Karma and Trauma Informed Care 17.03.2023

Send us Fan Mail On this episode, Amy and Miriam speak with Daryna Skybina about her paper published in the Fall 2022 issue of The Canadian Journal of Theology, Mental Health, and Disability: A Trauma-Informed Approach to Discussing Karma in Buddhism. You can find more about Daryna's psychotherapy practice at www.darynaskybina.com or via Instagram @darynaskybinapsychotherapy Read the full pap...

Season 2, Episode 13: Heather Morgan on Purity Culture and Autism 17.02.2023

Send us Fan Mail In this episode, we talk with Heather Morgan about purity culture and the harm being done to female-presenting autistic people (and others) because of this movement. Heather shares some of her diaries from growing up and talks about the teachings she learned about purity when she was young. She then explains how she feels receiving an autism diagnosis would have helped her make be...

Season 2 Episode 12: Shauna Kubossek on "'So That She May Be Made Well' Themes of Salvation, Trust and Healing in Mark 5:21–43" 13.01.2023

Send us Fan Mail In this episode, we talk with Shauna Kubossek about her newly published paper "'So That She May Be Made Well' Themes of Salvation, Trust, and Healing in Mark 5:21–43."  We discuss atonement theories, healing and cure, voice hearing, and how we can have better theologies around those in our faith communities who are "not liberated, whose bleeding has not st...

Season 2 Episode 11: Dr. Naomi Lawson-Jacobs On Queer and Crip Sexuality and the Disabled Christ 16.12.2022

Send us Fan Mail On this episode of the podcast we talk with Dr. Naomi Lawson-Jacobs about their creative piece "A Story Like Mine" from the Fall issue of the Canadian Journal of Theology, Mental Health and Disability which focuses on Mad and Crip Sexuality. Naomi shares their experience of growing up in churches where they heard no stories of queer, disabled people and how disabled peop...

Season 2 Episode 10: What is Inclusive Pedagogy? Roundtable 18.11.2022

Send us Fan Mail In this episode, we explore ideas about how to make pedagogy more inclusive for mad and crip people. We also share some of our own experiences with non-inclusive pedagogies and discuss some fixes. With Eliana Ah Rum Ku, Shauna Kubossek and Laura MacGregor.  Follow us on Facebook and/or Instagram Read the Journal

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