Patrick Keenan & Alan Smith
The Machine is the Message
🎙️🚀Get ready to explore the limitless possibilities of AI in our latest podcast episode! Join us as we dive deep into the world of AI, discussing creative tools, design, and the future of human interaction. From using AI tools like Chat GPT for brainstorming and content generation to examining the impact of AI on design and accessibility, we've got it all covered! Plus, don't miss out on our exciting discussions about AI-generated conversations in video games and the importance of verifying human identity in the age of AI.
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Patrick Keenan & Alan Smith
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May 6, 2026
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Episodes
40 | The New Abstraction 06.05.2026 1:06:28
The conversation covers the future of video creation, the evolution of design tools, the role of paper in design thinking, the GUI for agents, and management abstraction and team deployment. It explores the impact of AI on video creation, the development of parametric design, and the potential of paper as an interface for design. Additionally, it delves into the concept of the GUI for agents and t...
039 | An AI company vs AI Tools 29.04.2026 59:37
The conversation emphasizes the critical role of information flow in company productivity. It highlights the impact of instantaneous information on the company's velocity and productivity. Takeaways Information flow is crucial Instantaneous information leads to productivity Chapters 00:00 The Importance of Information Flow
038 | AI, Art, and Ethics in Everyday Life 07.04.2026 1:09:01
The conversation delves into the impact of AI on everyday life, exploring its role in resource allocation, optimizing for compute and power usage, the evolution of propaganda and entertainment, the significance of single-purpose objects, the spectrum of artistic expression in AI, and AI as a material for artistic expression. The conversation delves into the impact of AI on communication and market...
037 | The Future of Work: AI's Role from ICs to CEOs 04.04.2026 1:16:46
The conversation delves into the impact of product promises and value propositions on different layers of an organization, particularly in the context of AI adoption. It also explores the evolving role of managers and directors as AI becomes more integrated into the workforce. The conversation delves into the emergence of new organizational structures, the impact of AI on work, and the challenges...
036 | Jevons Paradox and the AI Productivity Trap 04.04.2026 1:02:35
The conversation delves into the impact of AI technology and its influence on the future, as well as the changing nature of work and development processes. It explores the challenges and opportunities presented by AI technology and the evolving dynamics of work in the context of rapid technological advancements. The conversation delves into the impact of AI on work and the value of human intuition...
035 | Turtles, Da Vinci, and DNA Vaccines 04.04.2026 57:34
The conversation covers a range of topics, including management tools for human-AI collaboration, philosophical reflections on technology and employment, advancements in 3D printing and hardware technology, community-driven issue reporting and civic engagement, and national identity and economic union. The discussion delves into the challenges and opportunities presented by AI, the impact of techn...
034 | Why AI Apps Are Disappearing: Agents, Headless Software, and the Next Interface 04.04.2026 1:01:16
The conversation delves into the evolving landscape of AI and automation, exploring the impact on work, the future of AI, and the role of command line interfaces and headless services. It highlights the transformative nature of AI and the potential shift towards new interface paradigms. The conversation delves into the evolution of product strategy, emphasizing the shift from being first to market...
033 | Pietro Gagliano on generative creativity 19.07.2024 1:08:16
Summary Pietro Gagliano, founder of Transitional Forms, discusses the future of creative AI and the shift towards outcome-based software. He talks about the challenges of defining and naming the new paradigm of real-time interactive generative media. The conversation also touches on the nostalgia for the early days of AI hallucinations and the excitement of seeing AI tools evolve. The hosts explor...
032 | Recalling past keynotes and promises broken 22.06.2024 1:22:01
Summary In this conversation, Patrick and Alan discuss the progress of AI and the potential for AGI and superintelligence. They explore the exponential growth of AI capabilities, the role of hardware and software in driving progress, and the challenges of privacy and ethics. They also touch on the hype and deception surrounding certain AI products and the importance of execution. The conversation...
031 | Keynotes and promises for the future 19.06.2024 51:32
Summary In this episode, Patrick and Alan discuss the recent keynotes from Google, Apple, and Microsoft. They highlight the use of AI in voice interfaces, the importance of privacy, and the advancements in conversational AI. They also touch on the latency of AI responses and the potential for AI to provide instantaneous feedback. Overall, they are impressed with the progress made in AI and voice a...
030 | Fake Coffee, Fake People, and The Return of Immersive Web Experiences 28.04.2024 1:04:28
Summary In this conversation, Patrick and Alan discuss various topics including coffee alternatives, innovative building technologies, automation in the gig economy, the return of immersive web experiences, and the challenges faced by AI devices. They explore the potential of synthetic coffee made from organic materials, the use of 3D printing in construction, the automation of job searching on Up...
029 | The Future of Human-Computer Interaction 13.04.2024 33:27
Links available at: https://arc.net/space/2B11F08B-7157-4F6F-ADB9-89DBE9DEEB18 Summary In this conversation, Patrick and Alan discuss various topics related to technology and AI. They talk about building UIs in the web using React 3 fiber and F2R3.com, which allows users to view and interact with 3D designs in virtual reality. They also explore the concept of AI understanding and interacting with...
028 | A Conversation on Avatars, Music, Mobility, and Email Management 09.04.2024 1:24:06
Summary In this conversation, Alan and Patrick discuss various topics related to AI and technology. They talk about avatars and the ability to generate realistic digital people based on real individuals. They also discuss the use of AI in creating personas and the potential implications for identity and self-expression. The conversation then shifts to the concerns raised by musicians, including Ni...
027 | Path Dependency, Open-Source Devices, and the Future of User Experience 30.03.2024 1:08:31
Links: https://arc.net/space/BC4435FB-72FA-463D-BD9A-93CAEE081CF2 Discord https://discord.gg/qwHvGeex Summary In this conversation, Patrick and Alan discuss various topics related to AI design and new technologies. They talk about AI research and the importance of prompt engineering in training AI models. They also explore the concept of thinking before speaking and how it can improve AI responses...
026 | Scripts, UIs, brain interfaces, robots, 3D, GDP per captial 27.03.2024 1:14:12
Summary In this conversation, Patrick and Alan discuss various AI applications and tools. They start by talking about the emergence of high-quality instant coffee made through freeze-drying, which could disrupt the coffee industry. They then move on to discuss new AI applications, including an AI bookmark manager for Twitter, a storyboard builder called Catalyst, and a UI design tool called Uizard...
025 | Sora, Characters, Automation 16.03.2024 47:12
Summary In this conversation, Patrick and Alan discuss various advancements in technology. They start by exploring AI browsing and automation in the web, discussing tools like AutoTab and Rabbit. They then move on to discuss Sora, a tool that can generate realistic videos from text. The conversation also touches on Mid Journey's character references and the concept of a model of the world in AI. F...
024 | Will AI make education obsolete? 01.03.2024 1:08:11
Summary In this episode, Patrick and Alan discuss the potential impact of AI on education. They start by examining the history and current state of education, including literacy rates, democracy, and economic factors. They identify cracks in the current education system, such as brain drain and student debt. The hosts then explore how AI can revolutionize education by personalizing learning, provi...
023 | Deep Dive: Should AI Kill You? 23.02.2024 51:52
Summary This conversation delves into the ethics of AI decision-making, particularly in life and death situations. The hosts discuss the trolley experiment and different perspectives on AI ethics. They explore the trustworthiness and reliability of AI systems, as well as the potential benefits and risks of AI in various fields. The conversation also touches on the shift in responsibility and accou...
022 | Link share: Navigating the Future of Automation, Creativity, and Human Purpose 17.02.2024 1:03:32
The conversation explores the power of AI in various industries and its impact on job automation. It discusses the rise of AI agents and the importance of AI voice and personality. The role of editors in AI-generated content and the need for human creativity and unpredictability are also examined. The conversation delves into the future of AI management and the potential of AI in employment. It ex...
016 | The People of AI 09.02.2024 1:16:23
This was delayed due to technical issues, but delighted to publish it now. We preview Alan's talk on the different personas/archetypes/reactions to AI and it's impact on society, the economy, our work, and communities. Come out Dec 14 for the refined shorter version, as well as other though provoking talks in TO: https://www.eventbrite.ca/e/765320392897?aff=oddtdtcreator
021 | Resolution vs Trustability, Vision Pro, Arc Browser, Rabbit R1 05.02.2024 54:30
Summary In this conversation, Patrick Keenan and Alan Smith discuss the implications of AI-generated fake images, the shift in trust and truth, the possibility of living in a simulation, and the evolution of AI-generated content. They also explore the inflation of photos and the impact on trust, the AI bubble and its value, the importance of identity verification and trust, the evolution of the Mi...
020 | Joshua Weissburg on AI, building businesses, and the promise of unique perspectives on the future 21.01.2024 55:32
This week's episode is a conversation with Joshua Weissburg. Joshua experience in building businesses, looking for customer problems, and how important it is to look beyond the data, and instead use it as a jumping off point for insight.
019 | Signals of the future for AI/XR with Stef Hutka 12.01.2024 1:10:10
We were joined by Stef Hutka who recently penned a newsletter on Signals of the future for AI/XR. We discuss devices on the horizon, what we've seen in 2023, and the tipping points ahead in 2024 for cross-reality experiences and how those match with new AI affordances. Linked discusses Stef's newsletter: https://sendfull.substack.com/p/ep-11-signals-of-the-future-spatial And cool things https://ww...
018 | Michael Dila Is AI what we think it is? 22.12.2023 1:12:38
Michael joins us to discuss AI, alien intelligence, conversational capability, games, play, and a last note on the Tao Te Ching.
017 | Extensions: XR, AI, Web 15.12.2023 50:15
This episode we go over how capabilities for tech are increasing, while difficultly of building is decreasing. We think through XR, AI, and Web tools and discuss ways to think about involving AI in your work. Links discussed Slides from the event: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1NFbxsXIgECOWqHNLvYiX-xGz5jC1IkaKjR1AYONTqWU/edit#slide=id.g263b4b5379a_0_105 Akin's Laws of Spacecraft Design ht...
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