Theresa Destrebecq and Vincent Musolino
The Leader Learner Podcast
The Leader Learner podcast is for readers and leaders of all kinds. Theresa and Vincent both work as external learning and development providers to global organizations, supporting them in different ways. In this podcast, they explore what they're learning from and with the organizations that they work with, as well as what they are learning through their own leadership practices.
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Theresa Destrebecq and Vincent Musolino
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Feb 12, 2026
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Episodes
S02E06 The Simplify Episode 21.11.2022 45:59
Send us Fan Mail CHECK-IN QUESTION : If you could take a week-long vacation anywhere in the world by yourself, where would you go? BIG IDEAS: Essentialism isn't minimalism Being intentional about how we spend our time How do we decide what we take on and what we don't? Useful time - how to determine what is useful or not? Useful doesn't always mean fun What's the difference bet...
S02E05 The Connection Before Content Episode 07.11.2022 51:07
Send us Fan Mail Check-In Question: Is there any value in buying paper dictionaries anymore? Do you think paper books will die within our lifetimes? Big Ideas: Creating connection in virtual spaces Importance of taking time and not having an agenda or expectations Who we are as people as opposed to who we are in our roles Skills needed in virtual space are different How am I different in person ve...
S02E04 The What Does It Mean To Be Humble Episode 24.10.2022 50:57
Send us Fan Mail Check-In Question: What personal quality do you know people appreciate about you? Big Ideas: 3 attitudes - Unconditional Responsibility, Essential Integrity, Ontological Humility Ontology - Philosophy related to being, relationships one has to being Dividing responsibility starting from 100% doesn't work, each person has 100% responsibility for themselves Keeping your word is...
S02E03 The Explain Not Persuade Episode 10.10.2022 44:39
Send us Fan Mail Check-In Question: If you were a vegetable, what vegetable would you be? Big Ideas: Theresa's BIG Reflection Question: How can I have an opinion or take a stand on something, without other people taking in personally, or feeling judged. "Strong back soft front." ~Joan Halifax Is taking a stand the same as having an opinion? How can you care about someone and want to...
S02E02 The Let's Talk About Shame Baby Episode 26.09.2022 39:56
Send us Fan Mail Check-In Question: What website do you visit multiple times a day? Big Ideas: What gets in the way of great leadership? Imposing my perspective/values on other people Imposter syndrome leading to self-doubt When we don't address our own emotions Shame getting in the way of leadership The less we talk about emotions the more we feel Not talking about shame at work -- frustrati...
S02E01 The Do You Need A Break Episode 12.09.2022 41:12
Send us Fan Mail Check-In Question: Who is the most likeable person that you know? Big Ideas: Taking breaks - why we do it, why we don't, etc Real vacation, no work AND vacation, but thinking about work Taking a break means NOT thinking about work Having some location separation between work and home Can't compartmentalize work and personal life Is separating work and home life valid an...
Season Finale: How We Found Room for Improvement 18.07.2022 34:00
Send us Fan Mail Check-In Question: Do you like working from home? How to create community in virtual spaces Big Ideas: What's our magic, our thing, our niche, etc? The importance of FUN Tech issues we encountered - Theresa's slow connection Types of episodes: Quotes and Question, Guests, Shoot from the Hip, Coaching One Another - Listeners, what is your favorite episode type? Learni...
S01E12 The How Do We Respond To Gifts Episode 04.07.2022 26:07
Send us Fan Mail Enjoy this spontaneous, unplanned conversation which turned into an episode :) BIG IDEAS: Relationship being more important than the gift Do gifts pollute or change the relationship? Polluting versus enhancing? What do we do with compliments? Genuine connections over the "connect and pitch" Link between connections and gifts to worthiness When we don't accept a gif...
S01E11 The Is Money Dirty Episode 20.06.2022 44:56
Send us Fan Mail Check-In Question: What is money good for? Big Ideas: Two kinds of money -- those that fulfill our needs, and those that we think will fulfill our needs, but don't. Indigenous tribes that don't use money. Question of whether it is essential? "Money isn't the problem. Money isn't good or bad. Money itself doesn't have power or not have power. It is ou...
S01E10 The Hero On The Balcony Episode 06.06.2022 39:52
Send us Fan Mail Check-In Question: What do you think people regret the most when they look back on their life? Big Ideas: Different stages of life: the call, the messy middle, the resolution Life being one long journey, with lots of small hero's journeys throughout Stage 1: Ordinary World; Stage 2: The Call to Adventure; Stage 3: Refusal of the Call; Stage 4: Meeting with a Mentor; Stage 5:...
S01E09 The Theresa Gets Bad Feedback Episode 16.05.2022 35:18
Send us Fan Mail Check-In Question: Do you think it's appropriate to cry at work, and when was the last time you cried at work? Big Ideas: Is appropriate the right word to refer to having emotions at work? Judgment behind the work appropriate Permission to have the full range of emotions, even at work How criticism brings up a sense of threat, even if we don't consciously think of it Th...
S01E08 The Honor People's Voices Episode 02.05.2022 44:45
Send us Fan Mail Check-In Question: Would there be more or fewer people leaving their jobs (divorces) if people could read each other's minds? Big Ideas: The importance of candor in organizations How we do candor matters The culture of candor matters - sometimes labeled a non-team player if point out mistakes Safety as it relates to communication styles - direct/indirect Our own relationshi...
S01E07 The Who The Hell Are We Episode 18.04.2022 40:58
Send us Fan Mail What kinds of things you'll learn about us: What we individually create in our work, and what for What makes Theresa happy about her work The company Vincent would want to change The artist/band Theresa would take with her to a deserted island The book Vincent would read for the rest of his life Theresa's most badass leadership moment What Theresa would do with her one...
S01E06 The Transform To Perform Tomorrow Episode (with Suzanne Lee) 04.04.2022 43:07
Send us Fan Mail With Guest Suzanne Lee from Straumann Group Big Ideas: Intimate relationship between leadership and learning Leadership is an invitation to tomorrow that is better than today Perform for today, transform for tomorrow - learning and listening is at the core Learn faster than the environment is changing The I, the We and the It -- learning must happen on those 3 dimensions or you le...
S01E05 The Keep Your Monkeys Episode 21.03.2022 36:32
Send us Fan Mail Vincent starts off with a story…. Big Ideas: Don’t take employees monkeys, or it turns into a zoo Employees need to keep their own monkeys Leaders and managers are not necessarily the same It’s exhausting and unsustainable for a manager to take everyone’s monkeys It’s natural for managers to take things off people’s plates. They think it’s their job. How are we supporting people’...
S01E04 The Not Giving Advice Episode 07.03.2022 36:30
Send us Fan Mail Check in Question: Do you believe criminals can be truly rehabilitated in prison? Big Ideas: “You are the average of the 5 people you spend the most time with.” Fear of people who are different than us The costs of the advice trap that leads to dysfunction in teams Advice is personal and the transfer of it doesn’t alway flourish in another context, or with another person Best pra...
S01E03 The Living of The Knowledge of Life Episode (with Tames Rietdijk) 21.02.2022 42:11
Send us Fan Mail With Guest: Tames Rietdijk, founder and former CEO at Business Forensics Check in Question: Did you ever play hooky or cut class in school? Big Ideas: Learning as a way of life Balance between “living the life of my knowledge, living of the knowledge of life” Would lose perspective if I focused my learning on only one area Living of the knowledge of life is learning from the signs...
S01E02 The Be Equals Episode 07.02.2022 37:22
Send us Fan Mail Check in Question: If you could spend a whole day with any one person, who would it be? Big Ideas: Learning from anyone through their experiences Thinking that one has potential doesn’t commit to anything, but believing that people have the keys to their own happiness and that you are equals Seeing your children as your teacher, rather than you as their teacher. Equalize the relat...
S01E01 The Hunting and Farming Episode 07.02.2022 32:15
Send us Fan Mail Check In Question: If you only had 24 hours to live, what would you do? Big Ideas: “Living is learning to die” Having a “north star” that is worth dying for (a just cause) Sinek’s belief that businesses are focusing on money, not on a cause. How to transition or connect a non-“sexy” business to having a just cause? Our “just cause” shouldn’t be tied to a service or product, so we...
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