The Knock Podcast

In Part 2 of this raw conversation, Bobby and Gerrad shift their focus from personal pruning to the heavy, intentional responsibility of parenting and family discipleship. The guys pull back the curtain on leadership in the home, discussing how a parent's attitude directly influences their children and why doing "nothing" is the fastest way to drift in your household's faith. From navigating Matt...

What happens when life is good and business is thriving, but your spirit feels entirely restless? In Part 1 of this candid "Brother Barry" conversation, Bobby and Gerrad pull back the curtain on the subtle traps of success, self-reliance, and the spiritual pruning process. If you've ever tried to white-knuckle your way through life or whispered "I got this," this episode is a powerful reality chec...

Welcome back to Part 2 of our conversation with Edward Leber where he opens up about the reality of living with a severe heart condition and how a medical disqualification from the military redirected his path into engineering and endurance sports. This journey eventually sparked an incredible mission to run a half or full marathon in all 50 states alongside his father. But the physical hurdles ar...

Welcome back to The Knock Podcast. In Part 1 of this incredible testimony, Bobby and Gerrad sit down with a member of their own church home team, Edward Leber. Edward shares a story that completely defies medical logic, beginning with a heart attack at just 18 hours old. After being care-flighted to Dallas Children's Hospital and spending six weeks in the ICU, Edward was greenlit for a heart trans...

After surviving a chaotic childhood and fighting a fierce battle for purity, Brandon Johnson faced a completely different kind of crucible: a heartbreaking valley that tested his faith to its absolute core. In Part 2 of this incredibly transparent interview, 2Rivers Associate Pastor Brandon Johnson continues his conversation with Bobby and Gerrad to discuss what happens when life completely falls...

Growing up in a household plagued by addiction and domestic violence, Brandon Johnson realized early on that a "Christian family" label means nothing if the home is fundamentally broken. But instead of driving him away from faith, that dysfunction pushed him directly into the arms of God. In Part 1 of this incredibly transparent interview, 2Rivers Associate Pastor Brandon Johnson sits down with Bo...

What happens when God puts you in a physical "timeout"? After years of burying his struggles with bulimia, jealousy, and chasing validation, Sully Luepke found himself in a deep hole of his own making. Then, in 2023, his body completely broke down—forcing him to sit still and finally listen. In the raw and explosive conclusion of this two-part series, Sully opens up about the hidden battles that n...

Sully Luepke is known for doing extremely hard things—like running seven marathons on seven continents in seven days—to show people what they are truly capable of. But long before the extreme physical endurance, Sully had to navigate the mental and spiritual crucibles of closed doors and tragic loss. In Part 1 of this powerful interview, Sully joins Bobby and Gerrad to share his journey from a str...

In this gripping conclusion to Jeremy Veninga's story, we move past the side quests and into the moment of truth. Jeremy opens up about the "out-of-body" feeling of living a double life—climbing the stairs of a church while still returning to a home that held him in bondage. If you've ever felt like you were "running and gunning" but coming up empty, this episode is your wake-up call. From a despe...

Does a strong Christian foundation guarantee a straight path? In Part 1 of Episode 37 of The Knock podcast , Jeremy Veninga sits down to share his gripping testimony. After a sudden family disruption at age 12 , Jeremy traded his structured upbringing for the illusion of worldly freedom. What started with a joint at 13 quickly spiraled into manufacturing methamphetamine. Yet, even while carrying a...

In the conclusion of this powerful two-part series, Jay Jamison shares the raw, unfiltered moment his life finally broke. Sitting alone at 3:00 AM, surrounded by the remnants of his old life and a feeling of absolute hopelessness, Jay was finally brought to his knees. It was a desperate cry for a way out that was answered in a way he never expected. What follows is a remarkable journey of redempti...

How does a man go from having a "gang file" and face tattoos born out of self-hatred to finding peace and purpose behind a barber chair? In the first half of this powerful two-part episode, Jay Jameson joins Gerrad and Bobby to pull back the curtain on a life defined by "the victim Olympics". Jay shares the raw reality of growing up in a secular home marked by abuse, which eventually led him to se...

What does life actually look like after you say "yes" to the knock? In Part 2 of our conversation with Aaron Shafer, we move past the moment of surrender and into the season of restoration. Aaron gets incredibly vulnerable about the "fruit" of his obedience—specifically how God began to heal the relationships under his own roof. He shares the powerful transition from being a demanding "coach" to h...

What happens when a professional athlete hits rock bottom and realizes that everything he built was on a foundation of pride? In Part 1 of our conversation with Aaron Shafer, we explore the raw and honest story of his "wake-up call"—a journey from the highs of pro baseball to the crushing weight of personal exhaustion and a failing business. After years of relying on himself and his own talent, Aa...

Most men experience the "slow fade"—drifting from God not by a sudden crash, but by slowly elevating their own pride, career, or even their biblical knowledge above a true relationship with Christ. Retired IFBB Pro bodybuilder and mentor Kevin Ford joins the show to discuss the danger of building a kingdom on your own ego. From living the fast-paced "rockstar" lifestyle as a touring Chippendales d...

Most men are just reacting to life. They're playing defense—trying to survive the hits and white-knuckling the "I got this" mentality. But a defensive strategy is a losing game. In this episode, former college athlete Alec Wallingsford shares the moment his "best thinking" failed him. From hiding his faith in the locker room to a high-stakes reckoning in a hospital room, Alec breaks down how he ha...

Are you tired of being the one who has to hold everything together? In this special highlight episode of The Knock Podcast, we bring together five powerful stories from Kirby, Travis, Megan, Will, and Darryl, all of whom reached a point where their "best thinking" and careful planning finally failed them. From the pinnacle of professional sports to the middle of a gang shootout, and from the isola...

What happens when the "rug gets pulled out" from your business or your personal life? In this episode of The Knock Podcast, we sit down with Steph Allen, founder of The Brotherhood Group, for a raw conversation on what it actually looks like to be "refined by fire." Steph opens up about his journey from living a "double life" as a college athlete to becoming a father and husband who leads his home...

What do you do when you hit a wall—not just in the gym, but in your walk with God? In this first-ever virtual episode of The Knock Podcast, Bobby and Gerrad sit down with former CU teammate and strongman Alex Kelley to discuss the discipline required to move from "good" to "great." Alex shares his unique journey growing up as a missionary kid in Spain and San Diego, and how his travels to the jung...

What happens when you finally stop running and open the door? In this special highlights episode, we journey back through some of the most profound and transformative moments from The Knock. While every guest comes from a different walk of life—from the high-stakes world of business to the bright lights of The Voice—they all reached a singular "fork in the road" where their own strength was no lon...

What happens when you're called to lead but still feel like you're "in the process" of growing? In this special solo episode of The Knock Podcast, Bobby takes the mic to answer a compilation of questions sent in by listeners. From the "imposter syndrome" of leadership to the practical challenges of raising a family in a "loud and busy" world, Bobby offers a raw and transparent look at his own jour...

What happens when a man has all the physical discipline in the world but lacks a spiritual foundation? In this episode of The Knock Podcast, Bobby sits down with the show's first-ever repeat guest, Justin Northern, to discuss the explosive growth of YOKED—a movement designed to pull men out of isolation and into intentional leadership. Justin explores the "softening" of the modern church and why m...

In this episode of The Knock Podcast, Bobby and Gerrad sit down with Danielle Fogarty, a professional wedding photographer who spent years chasing "gold stars" and professional validation. Danielle opens up about the exhaustion of the "hustle"—shooting 45 weddings a year while maintaining a "picture-perfect" exterior—and how a season of profound "stillness" through motherhood and grief finally bro...

In this episode of The Knock Podcast, Bobby and Gerrad sit down with four-time world champion wakeboarder Kirby Liesmann for a powerful conversation about what happens when the pursuit of worldly excellence meets the radical grace of God. Kirby opens up about the "crash and burn" moments of his professional career—navigating the performance anxiety he called "the cook" and the vanity of the pro ci...

In this episode of The Knock Podcast, Bobby and Gerrad sit down for a real, unfiltered conversation after hearing nearly 20 testimonies. They talk through the common threads they keep seeing—how so many stories begin with control, collapse into anguish, and ultimately lead to the same turning point: a desperate need for the presence of the Holy Spirit. As they reflect, they also unpack why testimo...