The Intelligent Marketer

Where are we in the agentic commerce revolution? "We're not even in the parking lot to the game yet. We're still on the freeway driving to the game," says Sean Frank, CEO of Ridge. Today on The Intelligent Marketer, he talks with Mike & Rishabh about why adding a product to your digital shopping cart might become as obsolete as buying from a print catalog; how ChatGPT is already driving product re...

"I think the entire concept of AEO was invented by people looking to sell something additional to SEO," says Eli Schwartz, author of Product-Led SEO. Today on The Intelligent Marketer, he talks with Mike & Rishabh about how search-engine optimization is bigger and more relevant than ever, how AI is reshaping the funnel, and why brands should focus on product and reputation over hacks and deliverab...

"How do you make a network with 10–15,000 banks, near 150 to 200 million merchants, four and a half billion credentials around the world, and how do you make it compatible with things like agentic commerce, with things like stablecoins, with things like wherever the next technology is headed?" Rubail Birwadker, who leads growth products and strategic partnerships at Visa, talks about all of that a...

“Creative is Batman, measurement is Robin,” says Pranav Piyush, co-founder & CEO of Paramark. Today on The Intelligent Marketer, he talks with Mike & Rishabh about why measurement should support, but not replace, bold marketing ideas; and how Paramark is helping CMOs and CFOs find common ground. They also discuss what it takes to build an experimentation culture inside a marketing org, what great...

What is MSCHF? A new luxury brand? An art project? A tech media play? "All of the above are true, all of the above are wrong," says CEO & founder Gabe Whaley. Today on the Intelligent Marketer, he talks with Mike & Rishabh about how he and his colleagues in Brooklyn are defying categorization and building a commercial factory for thought-provoking art. They also discuss why MSCHF doesn't chase zei...

"There's no such thing as brand marketing," says Eucalyptus co-founder & CEO Tim Doyle. "The great pairing of modern marketing is hugely ambitious, high-risk storytelling and great measurement." Today on The Intelligent Marketer, he talks with Mike & Rishabh about using AI to move at the speed of culture, Australia's strengths in tech, and building a "ruthless and effective" marketing machine that...

“Our goal is to build a personal stylist in your pocket,” says Julie Bornstein, co-founder and CEO of Daydream. Today on The Intelligent Marketer, she talks with Mike & Rishabh about the discovery problem in fashion; why owning the checkout is overrated; and how to make natural-language search feel human, personalized, and trustworthy. Plus: What Julie learned at Nordstrom, Sephora, and Stitch Fix...

“ Consumer expectations have shifted over the last two years because of this thing called ChatGPT,” says Adam Turner, CEO of Postscript. “ All of a sudden, the text box that was in the SMS channel that was pretty much worthless four years ago is now one of the most important interfaces that a consumer has with a brand.” Today on The Intelligent Marketer, Turner talks with Mike & Rishabh about Post...

 Good founders are "obsessed about every detail of [their] product," says Sam Ross, CEO of Numeral and former growth lead at Teespring. "'Why was it designed like this?' ... I think you kind of have to have the same approach to a lot of your go-to-market." Today on The Intelligent Marketer, Sam joins Mike & Rishabh to discuss the shifting landscape of performance marketing, the surprising things B...

"There's a lot of shame for people to use AI. They feel like they're cheating," says Bryan Cano, Head of Marketing at True Classic. "If you don't want to compete, that's totally cool with me. But these things are like lightning in a bottle." Today on The Intelligent Marketer, he talks with Rishabh & Mike about the shift from performance to brand marketing, AI's impact on marketing strategies, and...

"We really want to be the product that people use when they have to make an important decision," says Dmitry Shevelenko, Chief Business Officer at Perplexity. But to be that product, Perplexity had to design its new browser, Comet, with consumers' fickle trust in mind. Today on The Intelligent Marketer, Dmitry talks with Mike & Rishabh about AI-powered search, strategies for building user trust, a...

"There's really no first-mover advantage, it's sort of a false concept," says Ethan Smith, CEO of Graphite. "Whenever the channel's big enough, invest in it." Ethan shares his perspective on how Answer Engine Optimization (AEO) complements SEO, the value of proprietary training data, and the evolving tech stack for AI-driven marketing. Links: ⁠Graphite ⁠Ethan's LinkedIn⁠ ⁠Mike’s LinkedIn⁠ ⁠Rishabh...

"There's no chance that OpenAI doesn't have a scaled ad platform in four years," says Eric Seufert, writer of Mobile Dev Memo and general partner at Heracles Capital. Today on The Intelligent Marketer, he talks with Mike & Rishabh about personalized marketing experiences, AI-optimized pricing, the decline of the open web, and more.  Links: Mobile Dev Memo Eric’s LinkedIn Mike’s LinkedIn Rishabh’s...

Welcome to The Intelligent Marketer, a new podcast about AI's impact on marketing and commerce. Will ChatGPT replace Google Ads? Will LLMs revolutionize the customer journey? How is the definition of marketing changing? In every episode, Greylock investor Mike Duboe & FERMAT CEO Rishabh Jain talk with an expert guest about the future of artificial intelligence in marketing, and how marketers can s...