The Innovative Revenue Leader

Host Seth Marrs brings together insights from five of the industry's leading voices to explore one of the biggest shifts happening in modern revenue organizations: the rise of the Sales Performance Ecosystem. Featuring perspectives from Eilon Reshef (Gong), Varun Puri (Yoodli), Jordan Ledwein (Sandler), Lisa Ellis (Sandler), Curtis Schroeder (Varicent), and Seth himself, this special compilation e...

What does it look like when a learning scientist gets her hands on the most powerful AI training technology ever built? On this episode of Innovative Revenue Leader, host Seth Marrs sits down with Lisa Ellis, Head of Product Management at Sandler, to explore how she is redesigning the way revenue organizations build knowledge, demonstrate skill, and embed lasting behavior change. Lisa brings a rar...

What if your entire sales team could be trained, certified, and ready for game time the same week a product update ships? On this episode of Innovative Revenue Leader, host Seth Marrs sits down with Varun Puri, CEO and Co-Founder of Yoodli and Forbes 30 Under 30 honoree, to explore how AI is fundamentally changing the way revenue organizations learn, practice, and perform. Varun brings a rare comb...

How can AI do more than save time for sales teams? In this episode of Innovative Revenue Leader, Seth Marrs sits down with Jordan Ledwein, Co-Founder of Sales Lift and Reinforcement Services Partner at Sandler, to explore how AI is changing sales coaching, training, and skill development. Jordan shares how organizations can use AI not just to automate tasks, but to help sellers improve performance...

How should revenue leaders evaluate sales performance? In this episode of Innovative Revenue Leader, Seth Marrs sits down with Curtis Schroeder, Head of Research and Insight at Varicent, to examine one of the most debated topics in sales leadership: measuring seller performance. Together, they explore why commonly used metrics such as quota attainment, win rates, and pipeline creation often fail t...

What does it actually take to build a revenue intelligence platform that gets stronger every time a new technology threatens to replace it? In this episode of Innovative Revenue Leader, Seth Marrs sits down with Eilon Reshef, Co-Founder and CPO of Gong, for a wide-ranging conversation about AI agents, staying focused on outcomes over hype, surviving the 2022 to 2023 tech downturn, and why Gong nev...

What’s the real cost of always needing to be right as a leader? In this episode of Innovative Revenue Leader, Seth Marrs sits down with Dana Therrien, Senior VP at Varicent, for a conversation that goes far beyond revenue technology and sales strategy. Dana shares lessons from his military background, years in sales performance management, and personal leadership development journey, including how...

What separates reactive forecasting from truly predictable revenue operations? In this episode of Innovative Revenue Leader, Seth Marrs sits down with Nicola Miller, Sr. Sales Programs Manager at DocuSign, to explore how modern revenue organizations are evolving from subjective forecasting practices toward signal-based, proactive forecasting systems. Nicola shares a practical framework for forecas...

How can revenue leaders simplify forecasting while using AI and sales signals to drive better decisions? Today’s guest is a sales strategy and forecasting leader focused on transforming how revenue organizations operate. Introducing Jamie Sacks, Head of Sales Strategy and Operations at LiveRamp. Jamie joins host Seth Marrs to share how LiveRamp reimagined its forecasting process, improved forecast...

Why do so many forecasting efforts fail to deliver accurate outcomes despite advanced tools and data? Today’s guest is a global revenue operations leader driving transformation at scale. Introducing Thorsten Reichenberger, Head of Forecasting and Engagement Environment at Digital Industries. Thorsten joins host Seth Marrs to share how large, complex organizations can rethink forecasting by focusin...

How is AI fundamentally changing the way revenue teams generate pipeline? Today’s guest is a forward-thinking marketing leader at the forefront of AI driven go-to-market strategy. Introducing Peter Mollins, Vice President of Marketing at Nooks. Peter joins host Seth Marrs to break down how AI is reshaping outbound, sales development, and the way modern revenue teams operate. He shares how traditio...

How can revenue teams balance scale and personalization without sacrificing effectiveness? Today’s guest is a deeply experienced operator and systems thinker in B2B go-to-market strategy. Introducing Kathy Macchi, Executive VP and Co-Founder at Inverta. Kathy partners with host Seth Marrs to share how AI and evolving buyer behavior are reshaping the BDR role, sales motions, and how revenue teams o...

What if the most innovative thing a sales leader can do right now is resist the urge to blow everything up? Kyle Smith, Managing Partner at The Bridge Group and one of the sharpest minds in B2B revenue strategy, joins host Seth Marrs to challenge the AI driven hysteria sweeping sales organizations. With data from the industry's most respected BDR benchmarking report, Kyle breaks down what's actual...

In this episode of Innovative Revenue Leader, Seth Marrs sits down with James Buckley, Host of the Sell Better Daily Sales Show, to unpack what’s actually working in modern outbound and why most sales teams are getting it wrong. James shares how signal-based selling, sharp messaging, and real time relevance are replacing outdated volume driven tactics. The conversation dives into the realities of...

In this episode of Innovative Revenue Leader , Seth Marrs sits down with Joseph Miller, Co-Founder and Chief AI Officer at Vivun, to explore how AI agents are fundamentally changing how revenue teams operate. Joseph shares how AI is moving beyond support tools and into real-time decision-making, joining conversations, surfacing insights, and accelerating outcomes. The conversation dives into the r...

In this episode of Innovative Revenue Leader , Seth Marrs sits down with Nithya Lakshmanan, Chief Product Officer at Outreach, to explore what it really takes to adopt AI successfully inside modern revenue organizations. Nithya shares that while AI is often positioned as a technology transformation, the real challenge lies in aligning people, processes, and workflows. The conversation dives into h...

Take your sales performance to the next level with forward-looking insights from Trilliad’s 2026 Growth Imperatives. It’s time to move beyond simple efficiency and start architecting a sales system that actually sticks, and who better to guide you than IRL’s very own Seth Mars! In this episode, Seth dives deep into the final imperative: building progressive sales performance systems that enable su...

In this episode, host Seth Marrs sits down with Sahil Aggarwal, Co-Founder and CEO of Von & Rattle, to discuss how AI agents are beginning to transform revenue operations and the broader go-to-market landscape. Sahil shares his vision for AI-native systems that can analyze business context across CRM data, customer conversations, and internal workflows to generate insights and execute tasks th...

In this episode of Innovative Revenue Leader, Seth Marrs sits down with Laura Valerio, Global Evangelist for GTM Performance at Highspot, to explore what it truly means to operationalize customer-centric growth inside modern revenue organizations. Laura shares a thoughtful and strategic perspective on aligning go-to-market teams around the customer journey, breaking down silos between sales, marke...

Is AI really the end of SaaS as we know it, or just the beginning of a messy evolution? On this episode of Innovative Revenue Leader, we welcome back Anthony McPartlin, Principal Analyst at Forrester and one of the sharpest voices in revenue operations today.  Anthony breaks down what’s actually happening beneath the headlines: $2 trillion wiped from SaaS valuations, the pressure on seat-based pri...

In this episode of Innovative Revenue Leader, host Seth Marrs sits down with Ryan McShane, Vice President of Product Marketing at Salesloft, to explore the growing generational divide inside revenue organizations. Drawing from research highlighting a $56 billion performance gap, Ryan explains how tension between experience-driven sellers and AI-native talent impacts results, and how AI can serve a...

The ground is shifting under every revenue team, and not because of another tool—because AI now demands a real operating model. We sit down with Julia Nimchinski, founder of Hard Skill Exchange, to unpack a 2026 predictions report that brings clarity to the chaos: AI becomes a managed role centered in RevOps, enablement turns into an agentic operating layer, and systems of action finally replace s...

If your AI strategy feels stuck, it’s probably missing the fuel that matters most: conversations. We dig into how conversation intelligence turns buyer-seller dialogue into structured data that LLMs can analyze, answer questions about, and convert into real coaching and revenue impact. Instead of treating recording as the finish line, we map the full system that connects email, calendar, mobile, a...

The metrics look great, but the pipeline doesn’t. That tension sparked a frank conversation with Bill Hobbib, CMO of Demand Science, about the marketing data mirage—why so many programs appear to win on dashboards yet fail where it counts: qualified opportunities and predictable revenue. We dig into what really signals buying intent, how to stop chasing ghosts, and why AI-only content is quietly e...

Forget AI theater—this conversation gets into the real decisions leaders face when moving from copilots to autonomous agents. We unpack what the board actually cares about: where agents sit in the customer journey, how they reshape processes that humans or legacy software used to carry, and what that means for ROI, accountability, and experience design. John Arnold, Head of Product Marketing and S...