Nate Hagens
The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens
The Great Simplification is a podcast that explores the systems science underpinning the human predicament. Through conversations with experts and leaders hosted by Dr. Nate Hagens, we explore topics spanning ecology, economics, energy, geopolitics, human behavior, and monetary/financial systems. Our goal is to provide a simple educational resource for the complex energetic, physical, and social constraints ahead, and to inspire people to play a role in our collective future. Ultimately, we aim to normalize these conversations and, in doing so, change the initial conditions of future events.
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Jul 10, 2026
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Episodes
Living Your Questions: A Pathway Through the Unanswerable with Krista Tippett 03.07.2024 1:33:28
(Conversation recorded on May 16th, 2024) Show Summary: At the intersection between science and spirituality lies some of the most profound questions we can ask ourselves about the future - the answers to which could mean the difference between humanity's mere survival or a flourishing. Today's episode with Peabody-award winning broadcaster Krista Tippett is an exploration into what it means t...
The 20 Control Knobs for a Post-Growth Future | Frankly 64 28.06.2024 25:44
In this week's Frankly, Nate shares twenty different things to expect in the future, some which will be extremely difficult to influence but others which are in our control to change. From the forecast of an increasingly hotter planet due to the Superorganism's insatiable appetite for fossil-carbon energy to a world of growing conflict and inequality, our tendencies are to despair and feel a loss...
The Flip, the Formation, and the Fun: A Metamodern Framework for Human Futures with Jonathan Rowson 26.06.2024 1:36:19
(Conversation recorded on April 24th, 2024) Show Summary: Engaging with the human predicament requires new ways of understanding the world - novel perspectives that are rooted in a more holistic and interdependent mindset than those dominant in the industrialized society of the past few centuries. Today's conversation with philosopher and social scientist Jonathan Rowson dives into the emergi...
Sound Thinking: Using Music, Resonance, and Harmonics for Human Wellbeing with Alexandre Tannous 19.06.2024 2:40:54
(Conversation recorded on May 1st, 2024) Show Summary: Music has been an integral part of the human experience for thousands of years, and continues to embody a unique aspect of culture across the world today - yet most people hold only a preliminary understanding of the full range of benefits that sound, resonance, and harmonics can provide. Today, Nate is joined by ethnomusicologist Alexandre...
Material World: The Key Resources Underpinning Modern Economies with Ed Conway 12.06.2024 1:44:56
(Conversation recorded on May 7th, 2024) Show Summary: In contrast to 'The Great Simplification', some might call the events of the last few hundred years a 'Great Complexification' in terms of relationships, governance, supply chains, and many other human activities. Today's conversation with economics journalist Ed Conway focuses on the six essential resources that underpin our modern economi...
The Next Generation's Dilemma: Confronting the Metacrisis | Reality Roundtable #9 09.06.2024 1:10:29
(Conversation recorded on May 8th, 2024) Show Summary: As the human predicament continues to accelerate, the conversations regarding the future are still dominated by older generations - yet it is their younger successors who will face the brunt of these issues throughout their lives. Today's Reality Roundtable with Priscilla Trịnh, James Branagan, and Natasha Linhart, focuses on Generation Z's...
Daniel Schmachtenberger: "Moving from Naive to Authentic Progress: A Vision for Betterment" 05.06.2024 3:20:37
(Conversation recorded on May 5th, 2024) Show Summary: In this episode, Nate welcomes back Daniel Schmachtenberger to unpack a new paper, which he co-authored, entitled Development in Progress, an analysis on the history of progress and the consequences of 'advancement'. Current mainstream narratives sell the story that progress is synonymous with betterment, and that the world becomes better...
Nuclear Conflict: 7 Key Questions for Sustainable Futures | Frankly #63 31.05.2024 17:50
(Recorded May 28, 2024) Description In this week's Frankly, Nate offers an update on the current state of conflict between NATO and Russia and the increasing threat of escalation, followed by 7 high-level questions about how to think about war, the human predicament and our work for a more stable future. While these issues may seem too looming and overwhelming for our everyday lives, the society-e...
Vanessa Andreotti: "Hospicing Modernity and Rehabilitating Humanity" 29.05.2024 1:34:22
(Conversation recorded on March 25th, 2024) Show Summary: In this episode, Nate is joined by educator and researcher Vanessa Andreotti to discuss what she calls "hospicing modernity" in order to move beyond the world we've come to know and the failed promises that "modernity" has made to our current culture. Whether you refer to it as the metacrisis, the polycrisis, or - in Nate's terms - the hum...
Levke Caesar: "Oceanic Slowdown: Decoding the AMOC" 22.05.2024 1:29:38
(Conversation recorded on April 23rd, 2024) Show Summary: On this episode, Nate is joined by climate physicist Levke Caesar for a comprehensive overview of the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation (AMOC) and its connections to broader planetary systems. Amid a complex and heavily interconnected climate system, the AMOC is a powerful force for regulating temperature between the Northern a...
Special Request & Community Announcement 17.05.2024 3:47
UPDATE: We are no longer accepting survey submissions. Thanks for your feedback! Greetings! As we look ahead to the future of our podcast and organization, we hope to continue bringing you the most relevant information, guests, and conversations surrounding The Great Simplification. To that end, we're asking for your feedback. We have put together a brief survey that includes questions about what...
Chris Keefer: "Empowering the Future: from Nuclear to Podcasting" 15.05.2024 2:10:15
On this episode, Nate is joined by ER doctor, nuclear power advocate, and podcast host Chris Keefer for a broad ranging conversation including the basics of nuclear energy, how he engages with opposing opinions, and hypotheticals for a future medical system. Coming from a broad background, Chris understands what it means to have a human to human conversation and put together the pieces of our syst...
The Indic Mind: An Approach to the Metacrisis | Reality Roundtable 8 12.05.2024 1:14:33
On this Reality Roundtable, Nate is joined by Mohit Trivedi, Abhishek Thakore, and Kejal Savla, three NGO leaders in India active in driving social and cultural change using the perspective of the Indic Mind. As a subcontinent, the Indic people have faced crisis after crisis, yet have still held onto the optimism and compassion foundational to their culture. Submerged in this history and context,...
Zak Stein: "Values, Education, AI and the Metacrisis" 08.05.2024 1:53:07
On this episode, Nate is joined by philosopher and educator Zak Stein to discuss the current state of education and development for children during a time of converging crises and societal transformation. As the pace of life continues to accelerate - including world-shaking technological developments - our schools struggle to keep pace with changes in cultural expectations. What qualities are we e...
Pella Thiel: "Criminalizing Ecocide: The Rights of Nature" 01.05.2024 1:18:27
On this episode, Nate is joined by maverick ecologist Pella Thiel to discuss the legal frameworks behind the Ecocide and Rights of Nature Movements. Our current economic and legal systems have no mechanisms to consider nature in our decision making - much less to make systemic planetary stability a priority. Could redefining the destruction of our biosphere to be considered a crime parallel with t...
7 Thought Experiments for Earth Day | Frankly #62 26.04.2024 14:33
Recorded April 22 2024 Description For this Earth Day in 2024 Frankly, Nate walks through 7 thought experiments geared towards imagining scenarios and outcomes for ourselves, society, and the planet. While not rooted in reality, thinking through hypotheticals can be a valuable way to reflect on our ethics, ideals, and future decision points. From the perceived quick-fix of solar panels to magi...
Tom Chi: "Net Positive for the Planet – from Beavers to Bionics" 24.04.2024 2:19:29
On this episode, Nate is joined by inventor and investor Tom Chi to take a broad look at the principles guiding innovation and capital - and how we might shift these to be more biophysically aligned in the future. For the past few centuries, our global industrial system has been dominated by growth-based economics without awareness of its dependence on the biosphere - or the waste that it leaves b...
The Strait of Hormuz and 'the Spice' | Frankly #61 19.04.2024 12:37
Recorded April 17 2024 Description In this week's Frankly, Nate focuses on the importance of the Strait of Hormuz, a geographic location within a 700-mile radius of Israel called the "Black Gold Triangle" where more than half of the world's remaining oil lies under the sand. In the midst of high-stakes geo-political events where the misery and threats from warring nations dominate discourse, we...
Luther Krueger: "Goldilocks Tech? A Solar Oven Overview" 17.04.2024 1:11:54
On this episode, Nate is joined by Solar Oven collector and educator Luther Krueger to discuss the ins and outs of solar cooking. In the western world, most of us are used to indoor, gas or electric stoves, typically powered by fossil fuels, and in a third of the world, people are still using solid fuels - wood, coal, or dung - which come with many health and environmental risks. Solar ovens are a...
The 17 Things I Am 100% Certain About | Frankly #60 12.04.2024 20:09
Recorded April 8 2024 Description In this week's Frankly, Nate offers a list of things he is absolutely certain of… or as certain as any human can be. Each of us has grounding beliefs about the reality around us with which we shape our outlook on the world and how we'd like to interact with it. How will planetary and energetic limits interact with human society and culture in the future? Can we...
Michael Every: "The Many -Isms of the Metacrisis" 10.04.2024 1:49:31
On this episode, Nate is joined by financial analyst Michael Every to discuss global macro trends in economics, politics, and social movements. By taking a wide-view lens of current events, we can better see how seemingly isolated events interconnect and what mainstream economic theories tend to miss. What do rising political tensions and dissatisfaction around the globe amidst increasing GDP tell...
7 Meta Questions About Our Global Metabolism | Frankly #59 04.04.2024 15:15
Recorded April 4 2024 Description Based on this week's podcast episode with Geoffrey West, which covered how biological scaling applies to human economies, this week's Frankly is a reflection on what this might mean for the future of our societies. Throughout history and up to today, there are scaling patterns driving our social and infrastructural metabolism - potentially shedding light on so...
Geoffrey West: "Metabolism and the Hidden Laws of Biology" 03.04.2024 1:41:17
On this episode, physicist Geoffrey West joins Nate to discuss his decades of work on metabolic scaling laws found in nature and how they apply to humans and our economies. As we think about the past and future of societies, there are patterns that emerge independently across cultures in terms of resource use and social phenomena as the size of a city grows. Does Kleiber's law, which describes the...
The Fellowship of the Ring - 'Bend Not Break' Version | Frankly 58 29.03.2024 23:45
In this Frankly, Nate recasts his favorite book series, the Hobbit and the Lord of the Rings by JRR Tolkien, with some speculative "archetypes" of our human world grouped by various timelines. The eventual reduction in energy and material accessibility will likely alter the archetypes that we're familiar with today - perhaps to become something not helpful to larger society. What categories of hum...
Riane Eisler: "Domination and Partnership in Society" 27.03.2024 1:09:43
On this episode, Nate is joined by systems scientist Riane Eisler to discuss her decades of work studying 'domination' and 'partnership' societies throughout history and what it might mean to transition to more sustainable societies in the future. What we value at the individual and family level directly translates to the way we frame our governance systems - societies that emphasize empathy and c...
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