Nate Hagens
The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens
The Great Simplification is a podcast that explores the systems science underpinning the human predicament. Through conversations with experts and leaders hosted by Dr. Nate Hagens, we explore topics spanning ecology, economics, energy, geopolitics, human behavior, and monetary/financial systems. Our goal is to provide a simple educational resource for the complex energetic, physical, and social constraints ahead, and to inspire people to play a role in our collective future. Ultimately, we aim to normalize these conversations and, in doing so, change the initial conditions of future events.
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Nate Hagens
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Jul 10, 2026
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Episodes
Information Bifurcation | Frankly #57 22.03.2024 15:06
Recorded March 19 2024 Description In this Frankly, Nate reflects on ten dichotomies that he sees prevalent in our current culture of information consumption and media. We are increasingly bombarded with news from traditional media outlets as well as emerging smaller platforms. Yet interpreting these inputs depends on the individual and societal lenses we use, alongside the presentation of an...
Patrick Knodel: "Question Everything - Towards Cooperation & Change" 20.03.2024 1:33:59
On this episode, Nate is joined by impact investor Patrick Knodel to discuss how philanthropy and non-profit work might make positive change beyond the superficial level. The power of understanding the values and lived realities of other cultures is often overlooked but is central to finding meaningful interventions and support. Through connecting with people across the globe, Patrick has a deep s...
Chuck Watson: "NATO in Ukraine: from Proxy to Participants" 15.03.2024 56:44
On this special episode, risk analyst Chuck Watson returns to discuss the current state of the conflict in Ukraine and the potential for escalation. With the conflict centered around resource control, cultural clashes, and political posturing - will European countries now push to keep the United States involved with the conflict? More, are we seeing the full picture from the perspective of western...
Lyn Alden: "The Myth of Frictionless Finance" 13.03.2024 1:40:27
On this episode, Nate is joined by investment strategist Lyn Alden to discuss how energy and technology have shaped our monetary system and current financial trends. While more people are becoming aware of energy's foundational role in our global systems, it is still widely overlooked, especially among those working in finance. In contrast, Lyn's biophysically rooted analysis of macroeconomic patt...
Peak Oil, AI, and the Straw | Frankly #56 08.03.2024 24:41
Recorded March 5 2024 Description In this Frankly, Nate shares his perspective on the new all-time high in oil production in the context of AI's growing influence in the financial markets and technology space. While 'all liquids' just hit an all time high, the varying categories of what is considered oil obfuscates a long plateau that is starting to decline. However, given AI's expanding reach...
Samantha Sweetwater: "Life at the Center" 06.03.2024 1:22:38
On this episode, thought leader and ceremonial guide Samantha Sweetwater joins Nate to share her journey through mysticism and guiding others through their own unique spiritual paths. Strengthening relationality is a critical component for fostering deeper connections to nature - including fellow humans - and subsequently creating more cooperative, peaceful societies. Within a culture which predom...
7 Key Interventions for the Future | Frankly #55 01.03.2024 27:30
Recorded February 26 2024 Description In this Frankly, Nate shares insights on his personal/organizational priorities as a lead up to outlining 7 global interventions that he sees as being most impactful in preparing for a resource constrained future. As global stability deteriorates and the various macro-crises converge, how we invest our time and resources now can have a big impact for the v...
Sandra Faber: "The Universe and Our Place in It" 28.02.2024 1:26:16
On this episode, astrophysicist Sandra Faber joins Nate for a wideview cosmological conversation on the development of the known-universe and the moral implications for humanity's role within it. We are the first generation with the ability to truly understand the history of the universe and the extreme bottlenecks that Earth and life as we know it had to endure over the last billions of years. Th...
John Robb: "Networked Tribalism, AI, and Asteroids" 21.02.2024 1:51:30
On this episode, Nate is joined by author and technology analyst John Robb to discuss how geopolitics, information warfare, and technology are shaping how we understand the world and interact with each other. With the recent rise in global tensions and violence, plus an escalating threat of catastrophic scenarios, more and more people sense that the system is unstable. Coupled with accelerating de...
Reflections From India | Frankly #54 16.02.2024 12:49
Recorded February 13 2024 Description Returning from his first visit to India for a six-week limbic reset, Nate shares insights on both his personal experiences in the country and how its history, culture, and role as a rising economic power intermingle to create a unique position into the coming decades. Despite India's history of avoiding globalization and industrialization, westernized patt...
Ashley Hodgson: "The New Enlightenment and Behavioral Economics" 14.02.2024 1:05:59
On this episode, Nate is joined by Ashley Hodgson, a professor in behavioral economics, where she offers a perspective on the superorganism and what she calls 'The New Enlightenment'. By taking a wide-lens look at the way our human systems work, we can see the incentives and structures that push power towards consumptive, short-sighted, and destructive pathways. How could we 'rejigger' these syste...
Steve Keen: "On the Origins of Energy Blindness" 07.02.2024 1:32:41
On this episode, economist Steve Keen offers a deep forensic history of why modern economic theory has neglected the role of energy in productivity - and why this "Energy Blindness" is now a major blindspot in how our culture views the present - and the future. The massive, temporary carbon surplus we've extracted over the last few centuries has resulted in an exponential increase in the standard...
Mario Giampietro: "Models with Meaning - Changing Social Practices" 31.01.2024 1:23:52
On this episode, Nate is joined by biophysical analyst Mario Giampietro to unpack his decades of research on a wide-lens view of the challenges facing the human system. With current metrics that only optimize for one variable, increasingly reductionist academic fields, and scientific communication consistently falling short, researchers who look at how all the pieces of our predicament fit togethe...
Alexa Firmenich: "Biodiversity, Beauty, and Being" 24.01.2024 1:44:07
On this episode, Nate is joined by Alexa Firmenich, whose work spans biodiversity advocacy, ESG investing, wilderness excursion facilitating, and podcasting/creative writing. Together, they philosophize on the importance of developing a connection to nature and understanding the - often overlooked - but critical function of biodiversity to the climate and other natural systems. Alexa also delves i...
The Haves & The Have-Nots | Frankly #53 19.01.2024 14:39
Recorded December 18 2023 Description In this Frankly , Nate follows up the recent Reality Roundtable on poverty with a wider perspective on the different types of "wealth" in our society that go beyond the material. At the same time that the power dynamic of the economic superorganism leads us to a hyperfocus on the pursuit of growth and monetary wealth, other forms of poverty increase: rela...
Leon Simons: "Aerosol Demasking & Global Heating" 17.01.2024 1:24:54
On this episode, Nate is joined by climate researcher Leon Simons to unpack recent trends in global heating during 2023 and potential explanations and subsequent projections for the coming year. While the connection between human emitted greenhouse gasses and global warming is scientifically agreed upon, the other complexities and feedbacks of our climate system are still just beginning to be unde...
Jane Muncke: "Perils of Plastic Packaging" 10.01.2024 1:19:51
On this episode, toxicology scientist Dr. Jane Muncke joins Nate to discuss the current state of food production and the effects of ultra processed foods and their packaging on our health. Over the last century processed food has taken over our supermarkets and our diets, and at the same time the containers they're sold in have evolved as well - to be more eye-catching and keep food 'good' for lon...
The Behavioral Stack | Frankly #52 05.01.2024 18:11
Recorded December 18 2023 Description In this Frankly, Nate offers a personal reflection on his learnings about 'awareness' vs 'focus' and how this knowledge could be used as a guide toward more thoughtful behaviors. The human body's system has evolved through time and the layers were built sequentially, each interacting and reacting to the systems below it. By becoming aware of this and attem...
Peter Brannen: "Deep Time, Mass Extinctions, and Today" 03.01.2024 1:42:22
On this episode, Nate is joined by Peter Brannen, science journalist and author specializing in Earth's prior mass extinctions, to unpack our planet's geologic history and what it can tell us about our current climate situation. Humans have become very good at uncovering the history of our planetary home - revealing distinct periods during billions of years of deep time that have disturbing simila...
Bill McKibben: "Climate, Movements, and Power" 20.12.2023 1:19:44
On this episode, environmental activist and author Bill McKibben joins Nate for a reflection on the last few decades of climate education and movements – and the possibilities and challenges that we'll face ahead. Among a system that is dependent on growth and embedded in a biosphere full of limits (which we continue to surpass), working towards shifting our societies to be ecologically balanced i...
Systemic Themes for 2024 | Frankly #51 18.12.2023 14:46
Recorded December 17 2023 Description In this final Frankly of 2023, Nate outlines some global themes that are worth keeping an eye on in 2024. From climate change to domestic and global politics to an unstable financial system, world events continue to converge. How will the social fabric of our society respond as changes to our current way of life continue to grow? How do these seemingly iso...
Arthur Berman: "Shale Oil and the Slurping Sound" 13.12.2023 1:30:27
On this episode, Arthur Berman returns to unpack the complexity underpinning the oil trends of the last 75 years and what new data can tell us about availability in the coming years. After decades of declining oil production in the United States, the past decade of rising oil extraction has eased many worries about peak oil. But the past few years of continued growth have been obtained by using "a...
Stephanie Hoopes, Peter Kilde, Marc Perry, Dalitso Sulamoyo: "Poverty Blind" | Reality Roundtable #7 10.12.2023 1:22:57
On this Reality Roundtable, Nate is joined by four professionals with decades of experience working with low-income communities, Stephanie Hoopes, Peter Kilde, Marc Perry, and Dalitso Sulamoyo to discuss the state of poverty in the United States. Even in the wealthiest country in the world, poverty is a pernicious problem - and in a future that is more resource constrained it will only get worse....
COP 28 and the Smoke Under the Door | Frankly #50 08.12.2023 12:56
In this week's Frankly, we join Nate in a fascinating thought experiment imagining participants in this week's COP 28 in Dubai are liberated from the usual social sorting mechanisms which constrain real, forthright, challenging conversation around solving our most dire issues. What questions might participants ask at COP28 if there were no fear of losing social status and how might this liberatio...
Nate Hagens: "Episode 100 - The Great Simplification" (Interviewed by Kate Raworth) 06.12.2023 2:08:56
On this special 100th episode, Nate is interviewed by his friend and colleague in the metacrisis space, Kate Raworth. The conversation is a reflection on the past two years of podcasting – and how Nate's worldview has evolved because of it. What fundamental concepts could help us better understand the trends happening around us and the potential futures they point to? With so many moving pieces, h...
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