The Great Careers Program

What if the way we designed career education wasn't just through a lens of “what works”, but “what might work here ”.  The “here” makes it about context. The “might” makes it an experiment - something that is crucial to how we design schooling for student futures.  In this episode, Liv and Marian talk with Professor Glenn Savage, Professor of Education Futures at the University of Melbourne a...

Liv and Marian are back with an Ask Us Anything Episode, answering questions from people who are on the ground in schools and universities. No guest, no script, unfiltered and real.  We've got questions about whether career uncertainty is helpful, whether AI career tools have any benefits, how wellbeing and futures connect, how to be strategic in working with school leadership, and more.   An...

Liv and Marian have a lot to say. One More Thing is where the overflow goes. This one is from Episode 3, continuing the conversation with Chris Webb.  If you're a graduate right now, applying into a pool of a thousand candidates for one role, it's easy to feel like the whole system is broken. Chris's advice: before you accept that story, ask how do you actually know it's true?...

For decades, we've told students in school that the formula to a good future is relatively simple: work hard, get good grades, study, get a good job. It's the sequence that most schools, parents and the media anchor their narratives about the future in. But with AI reshaping how people enter and grow in a profession, is that promise even true anymore? But we're here to ask: was that...

Liv and Marian have a lot to say, and One more thing! is where some of that overflow ends up. These are bonus, bite-sized pieces of conversation that don't end up making it into the final episode, but they are too good to leave on the cutting room floor.  In this one: A five-year-old's fascination with submersibles is easy to get curious about. As a parent, it's much harder not to t...

Everyone agrees careers education matters. So why does it keep ending up on the periphery of school life and one person's responsibility? In this episode Liv and Marian ask a deceptively simple question: what is a great careers program, and whose job is it actually? They zoom into the evidence on best practice, including the Gatsby Benchmarks from the UK and where Australia sits by comparison...

Liv and Marian have a lot to say, and One more thing! is where some of that overflow ends up. These are bonus, bite-sized pieces of conversation that don't end up making it into the final episode, but they are too good to leave on the cutting room floor.  In this one: Career tests have been matching people to jobs since the 1900s. AI is just doing it faster - and taking your data. Marian and...

More than half of school leavers choose a pathway to please someone else. That stat alone is worth a conversation. In this episode, Marian and Liv dig into one of the most loaded moments in a student's school life — subject selection — and ask the question that might make us a bit uncomfortable: whose decision is the career decision, really? They unpack what the research says about how school...

We called the podcast The Great Careers Program. Which raises an obvious question: are we saying schools should stop buying careers programs? No. Not even close. In this short trailer, Marian and Liv address the tension head on. Yes, Liv is the co-founder and CEO of a careers program. Yes, they called the podcast the thing that doesn't exist. Here is what they actually mean by that, and why i...

What is the great careers program? And does it actually exist? In this intro episode, Marian and Liv answer the questions you probably have before you commit to a new podcast. What is this show about, who is it for, and why are two people who come at career education from completely different angles doing it together? In this episode, they cover:  What the name actually means and why it is a littl...