Liv Pennie and Marian Wright

The Great Careers Program

Education EN ↓ 5 episodes

You know that one great careers program your school has been searching for? The one that will prepare your students for the future, solve your engagement problems and finally show students there's a point to all this learning they're doing? That one single solution was never going to come in a box. It can't be handed to one person, and it definitely isn't something that starts in Year 10. A great careers program is not something you find on a shelf. It is something you build into the conditions and architecture of the way you do schooling. Marian Wright is a systems thinker working at the inte...

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Liv Pennie and Marian Wright

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Episode 2: Where does a great careers program live in K-12 schooling? 02.07.2026 45:27

Everyone agrees careers education matters. So why does it keep ending up on the periphery of school life and one person's responsibility? In this episode Liv and Marian ask a deceptively simple question: what is a great careers program, and whose job is it actually? They zoom into the evidence on best practice, including the Gatsby Benchmarks from the UK and where Australia sits by comparison...

Bonus: One more thing! Are career tests helpful or harmful to a young person's agency? 15.06.2026 14:30

Liv and Marian have a lot to say, and One more thing! is where some of that overflow ends up. These are bonus, bite-sized pieces of conversation that don't end up making it into the final episode, but they are too good to leave on the cutting room floor. In this one: Career tests have been matching people to jobs since the 1900s. AI is just doing it faster - and taking your data. Marian and...

Episode 1: Whose decision is it anyway? 03.06.2026 35:35

More than half of school leavers choose a pathway to please someone else. That stat alone is worth a conversation. In this episode, Marian and Liv dig into one of the most loaded moments in a student's school life — subject selection — and ask the question that might make us a bit uncomfortable: whose decision is the career decision, really? They unpack what the research says about how school...

Trailer: Introducing The Great Careers Program 22.05.2026 2:43

We called the podcast The Great Careers Program. Which raises an obvious question: are we saying schools should stop buying careers programs? No. Not even close. In this short trailer, Marian and Liv address the tension head on. Yes, Liv is the co-founder and CEO of a careers program. Yes, they called the podcast the thing that doesn't exist. Here is what they actually mean by that, and why i...

An introduction: Who we are and what this show is about 13.05.2026 23:53

What is the great careers program? And does it actually exist? In this intro episode, Marian and Liv answer the questions you probably have before you commit to a new podcast. What is this show about, who is it for, and why are two people who come at career education from completely different angles doing it together? In this episode, they cover: What the name actually means and why it is a littl...