Chris and Lily Perkins
The Gen X/Z Exchange: Navigating Career, Purpose & Modern Life Across Generations
Ever find yourself wondering why you aren’t happier, where your career is going, or why life suddenly feels uncertain — even when everything looks fine on paper? If you’ve ever felt stuck, off-track, or unsure what comes next, you’re not alone. The Gen X/Z Exchange is a life navigation podcast where a Gen X dad and his Gen Z daughter explore the biggest challenges facing modern life - from career direction and purpose to relationships, wellbeing, identity and the changing world of work. Across generations but facing many of the same questions, Chris and Lily bring honest conversations and real...
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Jul 1, 2026
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How to Stay Healthy as You Age: What Gen X and Gen Z Need to Know About Longevity 01.07.2026 30:47
Will you live to 100? Medical science has added around 30 years to the average lifespan over the last century. But have we added 30 healthy years? In this episode, Chris and Lily explore the difference between lifespan and healthspan — why living longer isn't enough if those extra years are spent dealing with illness, frailty or loss of independence. Drawing on ideas from Peter Attia's b...
Has Wellness gone too far? The good, the bad and the toxic 17.06.2026 30:05
Have we become a little too obsessed with wellness? From green powders and cold plunges to therapy talk, mindfulness apps and self-care routines, wellness has gone from a niche interest to a multi-trillion-dollar industry. But is it actually making us healthier and happier, or just giving us more things to worry about? In this episode of The Gen X/Z Exchange, Chris and Lily explore the rise of mod...
Starting a new job? How to succeed in your first 90 days 03.06.2026 33:26
How do you make a great first impression in a new job? And what separates the people who thrive in their first 90 days from those who struggle? Starting a new role can be exciting, but it can also be overwhelming. Whether you're beginning your career, changing employers, stepping into leadership, or navigating a fully remote environment, the first few months can shape your success for years t...
Preview of upcoming episodes summer 2026 20.05.2026 1:03
We don't have a full episode this week - there are two reasons for that you'll hear about in this preview. Instead, here's a sneak peek of some of the topics we have planned. If there are any others you'd like us to discuss, let us know! The Gen X/Z Exchange is a UK podcast exploring career change, purpose, wellbeing and modern life through honest conversations between a Gen X...
Why am I always tired? — and what’s really draining your energy 06.05.2026 37:40
“Why am I always tired?” — even when you’ve had a full night’s sleep? If you’re constantly exhausted, struggling with low energy, or feeling “tired and wired”, you’re not alone. And it might not be a sleep problem at all. In this episode of The Gen X/Z Exchange , Chris and Lily unpack why so many of us feel permanently drained — across both generations — and why the usual advice about sleep hygien...
What should I do with my life? Charlie Rogers on a smarter way to build a career at any age 22.04.2026 45:50
What should you do with your life - when there’s no clear path to follow? Whether you’re just starting out or rethinking your direction later in life, figuring out what comes next can feel overwhelming - especially when traditional career paths no longer seem to fit. In this episode of The Gen X/Z Exchange , we're joined by Charlie Rogers, author of Undefinable Life Design , to explore a diff...
How to stop people pleasing - and say no without feeling guilty 08.04.2026 28:23
Do you ever say yes when you mean no — just to avoid awkwardness, conflict, or disappointing someone? If so, you’re not alone. People pleasing is far more common than we think — and it can shape our work, relationships and sense of self. In this episode of The Gen X/Z Exchange , we unpack our own experiences of people pleasing, why it happens, and what it’s really costing us when we constantly pri...
How to talk to teenagers about drinking and drugs - without pushing them away with Diana Hu McDowell 25.03.2026 45:27
Why do teenagers take risks with alcohol and drugs - even when they know the dangers? And how do you talk to them about it without shutting them down or pushing them away? In this episode we're joined by Diana Hu McDowell, founder of East West Prevention, to explore how parents and young people can navigate one of the most difficult conversations in modern life. Drawing on her own journey and...
Why we’re losing the places that bring us together — The UK’s 'Third Place' problem 11.03.2026 28:41
Why does it feel like there are fewer places to meet people, spend time together, or just belong in your community? And what happens to society when those spaces disappear? In this episode of The Gen X/Z Exchange, we explore the idea of 'third places' - the pubs, youth clubs, community halls, sports clubs and local spaces that sit between home and work and help communities thrive. Across...
Is AI taking our jobs? Gen Z starting out, Gen X being pushed out with Maureen Wiley Clough 25.02.2026 40:26
Is AI replacing jobs before young people even get started - and pushing experienced workers out before they’re ready to finish? And if the old advice to “work harder” no longer works, what does a secure career actually look like now? In this episode, we’re joined by Maureen Wiley Clough, creator of the ‘It Gets Late Early’ podcast and newsletter, to unpack how artificial intelligence is reshaping...
Should social media be banned for under-16s? Phones, schools & the trust gap with Amit Singh Kalley 11.02.2026 50:53
Should social media be banned for under-16s in the UK - and what can we learn from Australia? Do phone-free schools actually work, or do they just push problems underground? In this episode, we’re joined by Amit Singh Kalley - leading commentator on this topic and the creator of the viral Periodic Table of Emojis. Amit helps us explore one of the most urgent debates facing parents, schools, and p...
How to write a CV that actually gets read – For Gen Z, Gen X & career changers with Carl Scutt 28.01.2026 45:52
Ever wondered why your CV isn’t getting responses - or how you’re supposed to stand out when everyone’s following completely different advice? Should you write for AI screening, recruiters, or hiring managers… and can you do all three at once? In this episode we're joined by Carl Scutt, the UK’s only certified Career Storyteller, to cut through the confusion and explain what actually works in...
Why Do I Like This Song So Much? The Psychology of Catchy Music 14.01.2026 40:50
Why do you like a song so much… and why does it become your song? Why can't you recite the lyrics to an old favourite on demand - but the second the track starts, you’re singing every word? In this episode of The Gen X/Z Exchange, we go beyond “favourite bands” chat and get into the psychology and neuroscience of music - starting with our all-time favourite songs, then unpacking the three thi...
2026 trailer and thank you message 17.12.2025 2:40
We're taking a short break over Christmas and New Year....but we have lots planned for 2026! Have a listen to this short trailer to hear some of the topics we have coming up and a thank you message from us for all your support over the last six months. If you've enjoyed the show this year, the best Christmas present you could give us is a five-star rating and review to help new listeners...
Gen X, Gen Z, Boomers & Millennials: Gabby Rosely decodes how the generations can all get along at work 03.12.2025 52:07
Ever wondered why your boss, your mentor, or your Gen Z colleague just doesn’t seem to “get” how you work? Or why feedback that fires up one generation can shut down another? Chris and Lily sit down with Gabby Rosely - former competitive swimmer turned entrepreneur, corporate leader and now multigenerational teams expert - to unpack the real reasons behind generational friction at work. Gabby has...
Sober Curious and wondering “Am I drinking too much?” – How to go alcohol free with Steve Kirchell 19.11.2025 38:59
Ever caught yourself thinking, “Maybe I should cut back” or “ Am I drinking too much?” If so, this episode is for you. We sit down with Steve Kirchell, Alcohol-Free Performance Coach, to talk about what it really means to be Sober Curious - and why going alcohol-free might be easier than you think. Steve shares his personal journey to becoming alcohol-free, the subtle warning signs your drinking m...
Overcoming procrastination at work or study - how to actually get started with Wilson Obeneme 05.11.2025 38:35
“Why can’t I just get on with the things I keep putting off?” If that sounds familiar, this episode is for you. Gen X dad and Gen Z daughter Chris and Lily team up with productivity coach Wilson Obeneme to break down why we procrastinate, how it derails our focus, and what we can do to take action sooner. Wilson shares surprising stats about procrastination, explores its root causes, and reveals...
The workplace: as seen on TV! 22.10.2025 26:58
We spend time at work, think about work, talk about work and then come home and watch TV shows about work! Would you love to message ‘Urgent exit required’ to get out of boring meetings? Would you sever your work self from your self outside work? Could you work in Carmy’s kitchen from ‘The Bear’? We talk about what we can learn from the portrayals of different workplaces in our favourite TV shows....
Our Ultimate Guide to Friendship: from childhood BFFs to adult social circles 08.10.2025 49:39
Is your social circle shrinking? Learn the rules of making and keeping friends, no matter your age. Why is it so much harder to make new friends after school? From the playground to the workplace, the rules of friendship change drastically. In this Ultimate Guide, Chris and Lily break down the lifespan of your social circle. We share our stories about those childhood BFFs and dive into the tough...
How to transition to a new chapter in life without feeling overwhelmed 24.09.2025 24:50
Did you know you experience some kind of transition in life about every 18 months? Every now and then, we experience a major change that threatens to totally derail us. It can seem overwhelming, but there’s a practical toolkit you can use to help you get through it. We all make plans and expect our lives to follow the pattern we have in mind. Life, unfortunately, has other ideas. Typically, we exp...
Your job interview playbook - our guide to nailing today’s job interview formats with confidence 10.09.2025 40:04
Are you preparing for a job interview for your first ‘proper’ job, or getting back into the job market after not having interviewed for a while? You need to listen to this episode. While some fundamentals of the interview remain the same, AI, online interviews and what to do and say now have changed. We break down what the different types of interview need to achieve from the recruiter’s perspecti...
Launching on LinkedIn with Sarah Burgess - new grad or new job seeker? How to get started on LinkedIn 27.08.2025 49:40
If you’ve thought you need to be doing more with Linkedin, but don’t know how, this episode is for you. Whether you’re a student or new grad building your network, or a mid-career professional starting a job search, we break down how to get the most out of LinkedIn. We’re joined by LinkedIn expert and career coach Sarah Burgess. For over 20 years Sarah has coached everyone from school leavers to C...
Leaving the UK - where could you go and how would you do it? 13.08.2025 31:19
Are you thinking about leaving the UK? Maybe you’re struggling with the cost of living. Or fed up with how broken the country feels right now. Perhaps you’ve been somewhere on holiday and thought ‘It would be so great to live here!’ But what about the post-Brexit practicalities of getting a visa and making the move, and the downsides? We delve into all of this in this episode. Whether you’re Gen Z...
Fear less, grow more: your guide to climbing Cringe Mountain 30.07.2025 26:52
Whether you’ve heard of Cringe Mountain or not, this episode is for you if you’ve ever wanted to try something new or step out of your comfort zone and have been paralysed by the fear of being judged by others. This isn’t just about posting on social media. It could be starting to network more if you’re job searching, trying to get fit if you’ve not exercised for a while, or wanting to tell your f...
The Gen X/Z Quiz - how much do you know about the other generation? 16.07.2025 33:05
It’s an inter-generational battle! Well, not quite. More a fun and light-hearted quiz on how much Gen X and Gen Z know about some of the defining aspects of the other generation’s formative years. Ten questions each, four rounds: Popular culture (TV, movies and music) Historic events Youth culture Life and tech If you’re Gen X, you’ll easily get full marks on the Gen X questions. Same for Gen Z o...
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