Shawn Tuma
The GC+CISO Connection
The GC+CISO Connection Show explores how we can better foster collaboration between organizations’ legal departments and security teams, with a focus on the General Counsel (GCs) and Chief Information Security Officers (CISOs). In an era where cyber threats are rapidly evolving, the partnership between legal and cybersecurity leaders is more crucial than ever. The goal of this Show is to enhance dialogue, understanding, and cooperation between these critical roles to bolster organizational cyber resilience. More information about the show, as well as the book addressing the same topics, can be...
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Episodes
Cyber Resilience, AI Governance, and the CISO’s Evolution with Andy Land 02.06.2026 38:27
Episode Overview In this episode of The GC+CISO Connection Show, Shawn Tuma sits down with Andy Land to discuss cyber resilience, AI governance, and the evolution of the CISO role in today’s business environment. Their conversation focuses on how the modern CISO must balance technical leadership with communication, business alignment, and stronger partnership with legal teams to help organizations...
Crisis Management Lessons Every GC and CISO Needs | Jenny Gray | The GC+CISO Connection Show 28.04.2026 35:19
Episode Overview In this episode, host Shawn Tuma welcomes Jenny Gray, VP of Legal and Assistant General Counsel at Torrid, to discuss her firsthand experience guiding her previous employer, Tuesday Morning, through bankruptcy and liquidation — and what those hard-won lessons mean for GCs and CISOs facing cyber crises today. The conversation covers crisis team-building, transparent communication u...
Holiday Bonus: Cyber Safety at Home — Legal + Security Lessons from Real Life 13.01.2026 10:43
In this special Christmas mini-episode, host Shawn Tuma is joined by his son, Ryan, for a candid conversation about cyber safety at home: screen-time limits, risky chats in games, not believing everything online, and why he doesn’t have his own YouTube channel—practical lessons that mirror how GCs and CISOs collaborate to govern risk at work. See how the same principles of governance, communicatio...
The CISO's Playbook: From Security Leader to Business Partner 09.12.2025 35:29
From the Department of 'No' to a Seat at the Table: Mastering the Art of CISO Leadership CISO Ian Schneller joins host Shawn Tuma to share how CISOs evolve into true business partners by aligning security with enterprise goals and collaborating closely with GCs and legal on AI governance, risk, and board communications. Hear practical guidance on moving from “defend” to “enable secure growth,” fra...
Bridging Business, Legal, & Cyber: Janie Aggas, Global BISO at CBRE | The GC+CISO Connection Show 01.07.2025 39:58
In this episode of The GC+CISO Connection Show, host Shawn Tuma sits down with Janie Aggas, Global Business Information Security Officer (BISO) at CBRE, to explore the critical role of collaboration between legal, cybersecurity, and business teams. Janie shares her unique career journey, from real estate law to cybersecurity leadership, and how her role as a BISO bridges the gap between business s...
Bridging the Gap: Collaboration Between Legal and Cyber with Carly Duvall Le Riche | The GC+CISO Connection Show 28.05.2025 34:36
In this episode of The GC+CISO Connection Show , host Shawn Tuma sits down with Carly Duvall Le Riche, General Counsel for Cariloop, to discuss the critical intersection of legal and cybersecurity in today’s business landscape. With experience spanning technology, privacy, and risk management, Carly shares her unique perspective on how legal and cyber teams can work together to manage risk effecti...
From Legal to Cyber: Building Bridges with CISO David Malicoat | The GC+CISO Connection Show 18.03.2025 36:52
In this episode of The GC+CISO Connection Show , host Shawn Tuma welcomes CISO extraordinaire and host of The Professional CISO Show , David Malicoat. Together, they dive into the critical collaboration between legal and cybersecurity professionals, exploring how these partnerships can drive business success and mitigate risk. David shares his journey from Marine Corps veteran to CISO, his insight...
Leadership, Collaboration, and Cybersecurity: Insights from Bryce Carter, CISO of Arlington, TX 05.03.2025 33:16
In this episode of "The GC+CISO Connection Show," host Shawn Tuma sits down with Bryce Carter, CISO for the City of Arlington, Texas, to explore the intersection of leadership, cybersecurity, and collaboration between legal and cyber teams. Bryce shares his unique career journey from pre-med to cybersecurity, his experiences as a startup founder, and his passion for servant leadership. Together, t...
The GC+CISO Connection, Ep. 3: Bridging the Gap: Discussing In-House Legal and Cyber Collaboration with the Queens of Badassery, attorneys Nicola Hobeiche and Shereen El Domeiri 05.02.2025 31:41
In this episode of The GC+CISO Connection Show, host Shawn Tuma is joined by the Queens of Badassery, attorneys Nicola Hobeiche and Shereen El Domeiri, who bring decades of in-house legal experience to help dive deep into the vital relationship between in-house legal and security teams. Nicola and Shereen share their experiences, insights, and practical tips on building relationships and fostering...
The GC+CISO Connection: A GC and IT Director Share Their Perspectives on Working Together to Protect the Organization Against Cyber Risk 31.10.2024 31:53
In this episode of the GC+CISO Connection Show, host Shawn Tuma visits with Erin Stewart, Pinnacle Group Inc.'s General Counsel and Chief of Staff, and Jonathan Merrill, Pinnacle's Sr. Director of Information Technology. Erin and Jonathan share their experience and perspectives on how they work together to address legal, cyber, and information technology issues within the company, strategically wo...
The GC+CISO Connection: Understanding the GC's Role in Protecting the Organization Against Cyber Risk 02.10.2024 34:27
Welcome to the GC+CISO Connection Show with host Shawn Tuma. In this very first episode of the Show, Shawn talks with Dena DeNooyer Stroh, General Counsel and Ethics Officer at North Texas Tollway Authority, to learn her perspectives on the legal department's role in cybersecurity, collaboration between the GC and the IT and InfoSec Teams, and tips to help those on the technical side work with the...
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