Savannah Hauk, Author and Julie Rubenstein, Style Consultant

The Fox and the Phoenix

Society EN ↓ 286 episodes

Understanding the Feminine Crossdressing ExperienceTo de-mystify, humanize, and celebrate the crossdressing trans community, providing a positive and realistic understanding through conversation between a crossdresser and a cis-ally.

Author

Savannah Hauk, Author and Julie Rubenstein, Style Consultant

Category

Society

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Latest episode

Jul 8, 2026

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Episodes

167 - Hate Mail 21.02.2024

In this episode, Julie reads Savannah a letter from a former contact to the FoxandHanger.com business. But this letter is not filled with butterflies and rainbows, oh no. Instead, this letter includes a reference to fun crossdressing in times past, a statement that they had abandoned that practice long ago, and the declaration that they were no longer cool with that scene and that trans folks inde...

166 - Gossip Girls 14.02.2024

In this episode, Julie and Judy give Savannah the high heel and kick her to the curb in favor of some girl talk between just them cis-girls. They chat about the starts of their own relationship, the altered dynamic of Savannah and Judy when it came Savannah suddenly working with Julie on such a grander scale for the podcast, and so much more! Julie even brings a few listener questions to the episo...

165 - Always Aware, But Never Prepared 07.02.2024

In this episode, Savannah and Julie pull a story direct from social media, where a close friend of the podcast regaled her FaceBook wall with a post about her revealing her feminine side to a more conservative neighbor during a holiday party. What started earlier in the evening as "we should go take in a music event" before the reveal became "Don't ever bring 'her' aroun...

164 - Why Men Love Women's Clothes 31.01.2024

In this episode, Julie asks Savannah why men love wearing women's clothes. What is it specifically about the soft and satiny feel of material, the way the clothing compresses and fits on the body, and the styles and colors and varieties that men with feminine spirits re drawn to? Men's clothes are basically simple, boring, and uninspired, while women's clothes are simply awesome! From...

163 - Crystal Clear Pull To The Feminine 24.01.2024

In this episode, Savannah brings on a special guest tp chat with Julie... none other than Crystal, the transwoman formally known as 'Jellyfish'. After a Saturday evening out with the girls (including Leigh Anne), Crystal comes on the show with her origin story, her current journey into transition, her efforts to create safe spaces and supportive community around her hometown, and the shock...

162 - Top Secret Dox 17.01.2024

In this episode, Savannah brings the story of Baptist Pastor and local Mayor Fred Copeland to Julie, highlighting the tragic tale of a man targeted for his "behind the scenes" crossdressing and the effects it had on his life after a conservative blog site exposed his behaviors to the public. While Copeland addressed his congregation for what had been revealed, and while his family and fr...

161 - Hey Jude... You Aren't Going Out Looking That Way, Are You? 10.01.2024

In this episode, Savannah and guest co-host and CD partner Judy have another on-air chat. This time, Savannah asks Judy why she is still sometimes uncomfortable around seeing her Savannah all dolled up. Sure, Chuck is her man... but what are some of the barriers and concerns that still gives Judy pause and hesitation when confronted by the glamour and femininity that Savannah chooses to embody. Ju...

Happy Holidays From Julie and Savannah 29.11.2023

Julie and Savannah are taking a little time off to enjoy the holidays things. We will be back soon with brand new episodes! Happy Holidays!

160 - Savannah Gets A Bikini Wax 22.11.2023

In this episode, Savannah shares with Julie her first ever experience getting a bikini wax. After months of waxing and having permanent hair removal on other parts of her body, Savannah decided to brave the pain and cross another one of her bucket list items. During the conversation Savannah drops a couple benefits of waxing, from better skin to the psychological effects of looking your best and m...

159 - The Pros and Cons of Labels 15.11.2023

In this episode, Savannah and Julie take about their stresses and aches and pains and angsts for the early autumn before getting into the interesting topic of the pros and cons of the labels we use to self-describe our humanity. From the cons of seeing labels for others as established stereotypes and misinformation to the pros of using a label to best understand ourselves, labels can be both a goo...

158 - Hey, Jude... Read a Letter (Part 3) 08.11.2023

In a new ongoing segment, Savannah's partner, Judy, comes on the podcast to lend her personal experiences when it comes to being in a relationship with a male-to-female crossdresser. In this first episode, Judy reads the third and last part of the letter she wrote several years ago for the first 'Living with Crossdressing: Defining a New Normal' book... back in the early days of her an...

157 - I Feel Like a 100 Grand 01.11.2023

In this episode, Savannah and Julie take a stroll down memory lane as they reminisce and indulge in the recollection of their humble beginnings for their friendship, partnership, and podcast co-hosting. Savannah reads the emails between her and Julie, pointing out just how much the initial ideas for collaboration evolved. It all leads to the proclamation that - because of their amazing listeners,...

156 - Crossdressers Christmas [Re-Monstered, er Re-Mastered] 25.10.2023

In this episode, Savannah and Julie wish all our feminine sisters a happy Halloween... the crossdressers' Christmas. Or, is it xmas? That would seem to make more sense from a x-dressing perspective wouldn't it? One of our early episodes... episode 9... has been remonstered,... er... um... I mean remastered for your ghoulish and glamourous pleasure! Enjoy! ----- SAVANNAH HAUK is the author...

155 - Trauma Care 18.10.2023

In this episode, Savannah and Julie discuss what its like to be affected by trauma and how it affects male-to-female crossdressing in both a negative and positive. It has been said that some people escape to their feminine personas because of trauma in their male-centric lives. Some deal with the trauma that comes with societal ignorance and intolerance. At the end of the day, how we cope and how...

154 - Hey, Jude... Read a Letter (Part 2) 11.10.2023

In a new ongoing segment, Savannah's partner, Judy, comes on the podcast to lend her personal experiences when it comes to being in a relationship with a male-to-female crossdresser. In this first episode, Judy reads the second part of the letter she wrote several years ago for the first 'Living with Crossdressing: Defining a New Normal' book... back in the early days of her and Savann...

153 - From Digital to Real Life 04.10.2023

In this episode, Savannah and Julie discuss a social media post from a beloved listeners who is on a quest to physically meet those people she has befriended online up to now. The post details becomes fuel to discuss meeting people in real life for the first time, aligning schedules, taking precautions, setting expectations, and having compassion and understanding for the fact that meeting people...

152 - Make a Man Out of Me 27.09.2023

In this episode, Savannah and Julie discuss a letter from a pod listener named Charlotte who asks if the intrepid co-hosts had ever discussed the practice of a male-to-female crossdresser hiding one's femininity under the guise of overt and exaggerated masculinity. From going out for high school football to several tours in the US Navy, the efforts to conform is always heavy lifting and hard w...

151 - A Magician Revealing Their Secrets 20.09.2023

In this episode, both Savannah is excited to share in a celebration with her co-host Julie. A close friend of the podcast, codenamed 'Jellyfish' (if you know, you know), had begun to share their feminine persona with a couple close lifelong friends and close neighbors. Each has been met with love, support, acceptance and shares of their own. Each reveal is a testament to the kind side of h...

150 - Hey, Jude... Read a Letter (part 1) 13.09.2023

In a new ongoing segment, Savannah's partner, Judy, comes on the podcast to lend her personal experiences when it comes to being in a relationship with a male-to-female crossdresser. In this first episode, Judy reads a letter she wrote several years ago for the first 'Living with Crossdressing: Defining a New Normal' book... back in the early days of her and Savannah's relationship...

149 - Best Made Travel Plans 06.09.2023

In this episode, both Savannah and Julie return to the podcast mics from their separate travels abroad within the US of A. Savannah went to New York on a work trip and Julie joined her extended family in Aspen for a week of rest and relaxation. Each of them return with very similar stories, regaling each other with unplanned and positive encounters with strangers who become engaged in conversation...

148 - Does This Podcast Look Tight On Me? 30.08.2023

In this episode, Savannah discusses with Julie her feelings of fatness and unattractiveness that seems to be more acute int he summer months. While Savannah has mentioned this concern before on previous episodes, she shares with Julie some tips that may assist in body positivity and self-love. From mirror affirmations to surrounding yourself with positivity-filled friends, Savannah and Julie bring...

147 - Do I Look Fat in this Podcast? 23.08.2023

In this episode, Savannah discusses with Julie her feelings of fatness and unattractiveness that seems to be more acute int he summer months. While Savannah has mentioned this concern before on previous episodes, she shares with Julie some tips that may assist in body positivity and self-love. From mirror affirmations to surrounding yourself with positivity-filled friends, Savannah and Julie bring...

146 - Summer Lovin' 16.08.2023

In this episode, Savannah and Julie talk about how hot they both are. No... no... they aren't talking about their amazing physical appearance but rather the difficult times some crossdressing men may encounter when the full glare of summer is upon them. Some may feel self-conscious showing more skin, while others may come close to heat stroke with their wigs and compression and padding on. Sti...

145 - Reviewing the Source Material 09.08.2023

In this episode, Savannah is so excited to tell Julie abut her interaction on an Instagram post where a troll tells Savannah she needs to repent, Read the Gospels, and be saved from sin. From that interaction, Savannah decides to think back to episode '5 - Debunking Deuteronomy 22:5' and see what else people who spout one of the 613 Mitzvot should be also adhering to to secure their own pl...

144 - 16(.)(.) Pennsylvania Avenue 02.08.2023

In this episode, Julie asks Savannah to discuss the hot raging news coming from the lush green White House lawns during a PRIDE celebration. Front and at the center of it all... in several ways... was the one and only Rose Montoya. As a mentor and influencer to Julie, Rose Montoya and her breasts were weaponized against her and the Transgender community by conservative media outlets that felt her...

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