The Fox and the Phoenix

YOU'RE LISTENING TO BLUE SKY In this episode... Savannah and Julie discuss what happens in the situation where after you have revealed yourself to your partner (significant other) and she finally says she's ready to see you transformed into your feminine state, you balk and are hesitate to share your female presentation with her. Why hold back? What are you afraid of? Savannah and Julie get to the...

In this week's episode, Julie asks a question based on her daughter's perception of how old people look to her and a recent brush with her own recent birthday "trauma". What happens when crossdressing men finally start their feminine journey of self expression? What happens when these feminine goddesses try to race the clock in experiencing all ages of girlhood and womanhood, even if starting at a...

In this episode, Savanah brings a text conversation to the table from the wife of a crossdressing husband, highlighting her feelings of insecurity of her own beauty in direct comparison to her husband's makeup skill and the pretty presentations of other crossdressers she has come across on social media. From harsh criticism as a child from parents, to the social pressures to live up to the always-...

YOU'RE LISTENING TO BLUE SKY In this episode... Julie laughs at how corny Savannah is! Then, our co-hosts talk about being their own advocates when it comes to understanding themselves in a way not thought possible and speaking up for their needs. 

Julie brings the difficult discussion topic in this episode about the how masculinity plays a part in the friction between non-transitioning and transitioning transgender folx.  While dual gender individuals have the privilege of slipping between their masculinity and femininity, transitioning women find that their worlds have drastically changed as they find themselves without the male privi...

In this episode, Julie asks Savannah about what it means to have active admirers on social media. From male admirers looking for intimacy to other crossdressing men searching for validation for themselves and happy to provide it to others, how does one navigate the adoration and, sometimes, the content that crosses from the side of innocent flirtation to the other side of unwanted attention? 

In this episode, Savannah reads a text from Skye--a reader of her first book, "Living with Crossdressing: Defining a New Normal"--where she exclaims  she just realized that she couldn't have had sexualized experiences with her crossdressing at the age of five or six. Julie and Savannah delve deep into the mythos of why both lifelong crossdressers and the general public automatically assume cr...

In this episode, Savannah and Julie unpack what it means to be forced feminized, as it applies to male-to-female crossdressers and trans-women. Julie regales Savannah with her experiences with interpersonal interactions, and Savannah responds with her own perspective and experiences. Can a man really be forced into feminization? Or, is that just fictional fantasy erotica stories? And, what does it...

In this episode, Savannah and Julie discuss the shame that causes many male-to-female crossdressers to continually hide who they are in terms of their developing dual gender identity and need for periodic feminine expression. Why is it so many build bunkers around their hearts and minds purely set on protecting this ultimate secret of the authentic self? Fox and the Phoenix take a stab at dissecti...

YOU'RE LISTENING TO BLUE SKY. In this episode, Savannah and Julie say goodbye to 2020 with a series of terrible 2020 countdowns, some drunk-not-drunk sing-songs, and a conversation of the ills and gains of COVID in 2020. As the balls drop (around the world, that is).  Julie and Savannah give thanks and focus on the possibilities of a brand new year. We look forward to you, oh glorious 2021. H...

YOU'RE LISTENING TO BLUE SKY In this episode... Savannah and Julie discuss selling off companies and franchising, the creation of a new joint restaurant chain venture between a famous coffee chain and America's Roast Beef, Yes Sir, clinging to creature comforts in the wake fo the pandemic, dress shopping adventures, and Julie's inappropriate behavior and how she's matured now that she's all grown...

Bear witness to Savannah's panicky caffeine-ageddon. A listener message leaves our cohosts wondering how best to help crossdressers know how and where to go out in public safely. Julie and Savannah provides a few guidelines about how to figure that out. Then, more conversation about recognizing our self-imposed misconceptions and perceptions about what we think others think about us. The hunt is o...

Julie reads a letter from a listener. What are we to do when we want to be described as beautiful and cute and pretty... even if presenting in a way that is more slanted to being described as handsome, rugged or debonair. We use adjectives to describe people, usually using terms that are stereotypically reserved for use to one or the other gender. How do we overcome words that are stereotypical? H...

What begins as a question about the appropriateness (or editing out) of Savannah trying to do a Jewish accent on air for a previous episode becomes a deeper conversation about Julie's understanding and struggle to hold onto her history and culture in modern America, the debate and circumstance of when to stand out versus blend in when it comes to your unique individual fashion style... and, what i...

Julie poses the hard question to her co-host, "How did you come up with the name Savannah?".  From the legendary convention of taking your first pet's name and the street you grew up on, to a deep-dive discussion of the power a name brings or can have attributed to it, Julie and Savannah take the listener down the rabbit hole of what a name means to each of us, and how it can empower or dimin...

Welcome to another BLUE SKY bonus episode! In this episode, Savannah and Julie give thanks to each other, the podcast, the listeners, and to those they hold dear in this special holiday bonus. Savannah tells stories of Thanksgivings without travel and turkeys. Julie reminiscences about her love of stuffing,  awkward people watching, and the importance of Friends-givings. At the end, they do a...

What happens when Julie asks Savannah about her make-up routine? Well, the result is a multi-step tutorial from shower to hair... and every step in between. And, as usual, Savannah and Julie meander off topic as they discuss about the psychology of the love/hate relationship of our clothes, understanding the physicality nature of the face, and how to optimize the minutes it takes to be "goin-out"...

NOTE: This episode deals with a topic that may be triggering for some listeners. What happens when Savannah surprises Julie with a topic that Savannah knows is one she and Julie disagree on? Well, in the second of this two-part episode, Savannah and Julie uncomfortably tackle the issue of what the term Transgender means. Savannah has her point of view from her experience and research while Julie b...

NOTE: This episode deals with a topic that may be triggering for some listeners. What happens when Savannah surprises Julie with a topic that Savannah knows is one she and Julie disagree on? Well, in the first of this two-part episode, Savannah and Julie uncomfortably tackle the issue of what the term Transgender means. Savannah has her point of view from her experience and research while Julie br...

Welcome to another BLUE SKY episode. These are bite-sized episodes for your listening pleasure. In this episode, Savannah and Julie touch on the week of the election, the anticipation leading up to Tuesday, and the historic and news-worthy rollercoaster of emotions in the aftermath during the rest of the week as the votes were counted and the Nation held its collective breath. They voice their ind...

While Julie instantly connected with Savannah after meeting her virtually as guests on another podcast, Julie struggled to come to terms with meeting Savannah's male alter-ego, Chuck, for the first time. Julie shares her hesitation and reluctance to meeting Savannah in male-mode for the first time, and how she managed to overcome this strange role-reversal of accepting her co-host's gender duality...

It's that time of year again. The spooky and hallowed eve when women shed their layers for something with "sexy" in the title and when crossdressers  used the cover of darkness--and the throngs of costumes neighbors, families, friends, and co-workers--to secretly express their need to publicly dress enfemme. But, it is both the season of the witch and the season of the pandemic. What does one...

Welcome to another BLUE SKY episode. These are bite-sized episodes for your listening pleasure! In this episode, Savannah and Julie have strung together three topics that include halloween costumes, the habit of hitting the snooze bar, having confidence in oneself in order to beat back our fears of revealing ourselves to loved ones, the confusion about people thinking crossdressing is just a hobby...

Welcome to the fourth BLUE SKY episode! These are bite-sized for your listening pleasure! Savannah regales the always supportive and lovely Julie with a second tale of accidental discovery. This time, Savannah misuses technology so badly as to reveal herself to her girlfriend's youngest adult daughter... and the hijinks commences. What will happen this time? Will Savannah be caught with her skirt...

What happens when your male self attends a vendor-sponsored, work-related, virtual wine and cheese tasting event... and your femme name in on your Zoom profile pic? Well, Savannah unravels the aforementioned event--and, the aftermath-- to Julie in this riveting and suspense-filled re-telling. What happens when you are faced with an accidental discovery of your feminine persona? Listen in and find...