Mackenzie Durbin & Carrie Hill

The Fifth Gait Podcast

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Welcome to the Fifth Gait Podcast: We ( Carrie Hill & Mackenzie Durbin ) have thrown around the idea of a podcast for years - but we finally made it happen, stuck in the truck together on a 10-hour road trip home from a horse show. Our passion is the Icelandic horse - and all aspects of the worldwide community that surrounds this breed. Here, we come together as equestrian professionals to share our hardest lessons, biggest wins and our future hopes in Icelandic horsemanship. Our conversations aim to educate, inspire and grow all people like us, who love Icelandic horses - from enthusiasts and...

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Mackenzie Durbin & Carrie Hill

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Education

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Mar 11, 2026

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Episodes

15. Johannes Amplatz – Understanding Weight Carrying Capacity in Icelandic Horses 11.03.2026

How much weight can a horse safely carry? In this episode of the Fifth Gait Podcast , we sit down with equine scientist and certified trainer Johannes to discuss one of the most debated topics in the Icelandic horse world: rider weight and horse welfare . Johannes recently defended his master’s thesis at Hólar University , where he studied horse-to-rider body weight ratios in Icelandic horse sport...

14. The Future of Icelandic Horsemanship | Reflections, Sales & 2026 Goals 10.02.2026

In Episode 14 of The Fifth Gait Podcast , we kick off the new year with an honest, reflective conversation about the past, present, and future of Icelandic horsemanship. Recorded on our way to Iceland for a sales horse trip, this episode dives into our biggest lessons from 2025, what we’re most excited about in 2026, and how our businesses, training goals, and perspectives as horse people are evol...

13. Þorgeir Guðlaugsson - International Sport Judge, Writer, Educator & Icelandic Horse Historian 16.11.2025

In Episode 13 of The Fifth Gait Podcast , we sit down with one of the most influential voices in the Icelandic horse world: Þorgeir Guðlaugsson . Known as an international sport judge, writer, educator, innovator, and respected Icelandic horse historian , Þorgeir brings decades of insight into the development of Icelandic horse sport, judging methodology, training philosophy, and the future of our...

12. Virginia Lauridsen — Developing Riders, Trainers & Breeding in the U.S. 01.11.2025

In Episode 12 of The Fifth Gait Podcast , we sit down with Virginia — USIHC President, Icelandic horse breeder, certified trainer, former professional opera singer, and lifelong equestrian. From competing as a show jumper and running a bustling boarding barn to discovering the magic of Icelandic horses, Virginia shares her inspiring journey through the horse world and beyond. We dive into: Her tra...

11. Hulda Geirsdóttir – Lessons from a Judge, Breeder, and Storyteller of Iceland 17.10.2025

In this episode, we sit down with Hulda Geirsdóttir—international FEIF judge, Icelandic horse breeder, journalist, and radio host—to explore her multifaceted journey through horsemanship and media. Hulda shares how she blends storytelling and horses, her path from Iceland to Colorado State University, and the creation of her legendary stallion Frister frá Feti syndicate. We dive deep into her phil...

10: Jessie Huijbers & Hörður Óli Sæmundarson - Training Young Horses & Breeding for Character 10.10.2025

In this episode of The Fifth Gait Podcast, hosts sit down with Iceland-based trainers Jessie Huijbers and Hörður Óli Sæmundarson of Gröf Farm to explore the art and science of Icelandic horse training. They share their journeys from the Netherlands and Iceland to Hólar University, discuss their systematic approach to starting young horses, and explain why discipline, lightness, and clear communica...

9: Patrick Sullivan - Gamilah Unbridled & The Power of Liberty - Giving Horses Freedom to Think, Move, and Connect 26.09.2025

In this episode of The Fifth Gait Podcast , we sit down with Patrick Sullivan of Gamilah Unbridled , a renowned liberty trainer and brideless rider best known for his incredible cross-country ride from California to Kentucky on his horse Gamilah. Patrick shares how he discovered liberty horsemanship, the lessons he’s learned from rescue horses, and why freedom within boundaries builds deeper trust...

8: Gumundur "Mummi" Arnarsson - Trainer, Innovator, & Ástund Saddle Maker for the Icelandic Horse 19.09.2025

In Episode 8 of The Fifth Gait Podcast, we sit down with Gumundur “Mummi” Arnarsson—renowned Icelandic horse trainer, riding teacher, and founder of Ástund Saddles. Mummi shares his journey from growing up in the stables of Reykjavík to building one of the most respected saddle brands in the world. We dive deep into saddle design, saddle fit, and the balance between tradition and innovation in Ice...

7: Meet Guðmar - Taking Icelandic Horses Worldwide: Hestaland Treks + Why Trainers Should Travel 12.09.2025

In this episode of The Fifth Gait Podcast, we sit down with Gudmar Petursson—renowned Icelandic horse trainer, educator, and founder of Hestaland in West Iceland. Gudmar shares his journey from being a young competitive rider in Iceland to building a career in the United States, where he helped introduce the Icelandic horse to a wider audience. We explore his insights on the differences between U....

6: Importing Your Icelandic Horse - Vaccines, Shoes & Trees, Oh My! Empathizing with your Import 05.09.2025

Importing an Icelandic horse is a once-in-a-lifetime experience, but it comes with unique challenges—from vaccines and hoof care to acclimating to trees, bugs, and even fly spray. In this episode, we share 10 key considerations every new owner should know to help their horse transition smoothly from Iceland to a new home. Drawing from years of experience assisting with imports, we cover: Decompres...

5: A Hard Look at World Championships: Shank Bits, Interesting Data + What’s up with walk scores? 29.08.2025

In this episode, we dive deep into the 2025 Icelandic Horse World Championships —an event that only happens every two years and brings together the best horses and riders from around the globe. From surprising results and inspiring team performances to controversial judging calls, we take a hard look at what stood out most this year. We break down: Team Iceland’s dominance and the culture behind t...

4: Meet Oðinn Örn - Improving Animal Welfare, the Future of Breeding, + Oðinn’s Perfect Horse 22.08.2025

In this week’s episode, we had the honor of interviewing Oðinn Örn Jóhansson, FEIF Breeding Judge, Breeding Show Ring Master, animal welfare officer for Matvælastöfnun, and genius pace horse breeder. We talk about the current status of Icelandic horse breeding- what could be better, what should concern us, and what we can celebrate as good progress. We also talk about what it means to be sensitive...

3: Meet Robin from IamGlytja - Horse Names, "The Great Weight Debate" & Tölt Training vs. Big Lick 15.08.2025

In today’s episode, we are interviewing Robin Guernsey, creator & manager of the world famous social media account, I Am Glytja. Robin is witty, creative and particularly talented at making content that makes people smile - all by documenting the daily shenanigans of her six personal Icelandic horses. We have the privilege of diving deeper into how her account came to be, the value she believe...

2: Meet the Hosts- Breeding Trainability, Beating Burnout + Toxic Trainer Attitudes 07.08.2025

Welcome to the Fifth Gait Podcast: We have thrown around the idea of a podcast for years - but we finally made it happen, stuck in the truck together on a 10-hour road trip home from a horse show. Our passion is the Icelandic horse - and all aspects of the worldwide community that surrounds this breed. Here, we come together as equestrian professionals to share our hardest lessons, biggest wins an...

1: Meet The Hosts- Stepping Back to Coming Back, What Horses Offer Humanity, Maturing as a Trainer 31.07.2025

Welcome to the Fifth Gait Podcast: We have thrown around the idea of a podcast for years - but we finally made it happen, stuck in the truck together on a 10-hour road trip home from a horse show. Our passion is the Icelandic horse - and all aspects of the worldwide community that surrounds this breed. Here, we come together as equestrian professionals to share our hardest lessons, biggest wins an...

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