The Fall Line: With Chaos and Co.

Dave and Angelo look back on the season, diving into the highs that fueled them, the lows that challenged them, and how it all sets the stage for coming back stronger next winter. It’s a candid, reflective conversation packed with insight, perspective, and a little bit of that classic “learn from it and move on” mentality. They also raise a glass in a shoutout to Eric Lipton—letting him know they’...

Dave and Angelo look back on the season, diving into the highs that fueled them, the lows that challenged them, and how it all sets the stage for coming back stronger next winter. It’s a candid, reflective conversation packed with insight, perspective, and a little bit of that classic “learn from it and move on” mentality. They also raise a glass in a shoutout to Eric Lipton—letting him know they’...

Dave and Angelo sit down with PSIA-AASI Alpine Team Members Bart Flynn and George Flynn for an engaging and insightful conversation that traces their journey through the sport of skiing. From their early years growing up in Vermont and skiing at Suicide Six, to their development as young ski racers and eventual paths to the National Alpine Team, they share the experiences that shaped them both on...

Dave and Angelo sit down with PSIA-AASI Alpine Team Members Bart Flynn and George Flynn for an engaging and insightful conversation that traces their journey through the sport of skiing. From their early years growing up in Vermont and skiing at Suicide Six, to their development as young ski racers and eventual paths to the National Alpine Team, they share the experiences that shaped them both on...

The Chaos and Co. Fellas dive into a dual rant exploring what lies beyond Level III performance—and what it truly means to ski and teach at a level higher than certification alone. Angelo and Dave unpack what they see as the missing pieces in continued professional development, along with the resources that help instructors keep learning and evolving. They emphasize that deep technical knowledge i...

The Chaos and Co. Fellas dive into a dual rant exploring what lies beyond Level III performance—and what it truly means to ski and teach at a level higher than certification alone. Angelo and Dave unpack what they see as the missing pieces in continued professional development, along with the resources that help instructors keep learning and evolving. They emphasize that deep technical knowledge i...

Dave and Angelo sit down for a wide-ranging conversation reflecting on Fall Education Staff Training and the December educational events at Mount Snow and Killington. Along the way, they share their appreciation for the entire podcast community—sponsors, guests, and a few well-deserved shout-outs to the super supporters who make it all possible. The discussion dives into everything from navigating...

Dave and Angelo sit down for a wide-ranging conversation reflecting on Fall Education Staff Training and the December educational events at Mount Snow and Killington. Along the way, they share their appreciation for the entire podcast community—sponsors, guests, and a few well-deserved shout-outs to the super supporters who make it all possible. The discussion dives into everything from navigating...

We sit down with PSIA-AASI Eastern Region CEO Kathy Brennan to talk about the Summit and Eastern Academy at Killington, along with what has her most excited for the upcoming season. Kathy shares her vision for member education, strengthening industry partnerships, and working closely with member schools to better meet their needs. She also looks ahead to her hopes and dreams for the future of PSIA...

We sit down with PSIA-AASI Eastern Region CEO Kathy Brennan to talk about the Summit and Eastern Academy at Killington, along with what has her most excited for the upcoming season. Kathy shares her vision for member education, strengthening industry partnerships, and working closely with member schools to better meet their needs. She also looks ahead to her hopes and dreams for the future of PSIA...

Eric Sheckleton—former PSIA-AASI Snowboard Team member and now President of Interski International—joins Dave, Angelo, and Pete Allison for a dynamic conversation about the road to Interski 2027 in Vail. Eric pulls back the curtain on the vision, planning, and momentum driving the event, offering a sneak peek at what attendees can expect when the global snowsports education community gathers in Co...

Eric Sheckleton—former PSIA-AASI Snowboard Team member and now President of Interski International—joins Dave, Angelo, and Pete Allison for a dynamic conversation about the road to Interski 2027 in Vail. Eric pulls back the curtain on the vision, planning, and momentum driving the event, offering a sneak peek at what attendees can expect when the global snowsports education community gathers in Co...

Coach Rogan kicks off the conversation with a great question: “As the season starts, what are you using to get yourself going?” Michael shares some powerful tools for reflecting on your experiences—using all your senses—to give your skiing that early-season jumpstart. Visualization takes center stage in this discussion, as Coach Rogan dives into where to find effective mental images, and how to ap...

Coach Rogan kicks off the conversation with a great question: “As the season starts, what are you using to get yourself going?” Michael shares some powerful tools for reflecting on your experiences—using all your senses—to give your skiing that early-season jumpstart. Visualization takes center stage in this discussion, as Coach Rogan dives into where to find effective mental images, and how to ap...

PSIA-AASI Eastern Telemark Examiner Karen Dalury shares her journey through skiing and how she became one of the most respected telemark and alpine instructors in the country. Karen’s impressive career began with alpine instruction before she expanded into telemark skiing, eventually joining the PSIA Eastern Telemark Education Staff. Her deep expertise in yoga is remarkable on its own, but what tr...

PSIA-AASI Eastern Telemark Examiner Karen Dalury shares her journey through skiing and how she became one of the most respected telemark and alpine instructors in the country. Karen’s impressive career began with alpine instruction before she expanded into telemark skiing, eventually joining the PSIA Eastern Telemark Education Staff. Her deep expertise in yoga is remarkable on its own, but what tr...

Blizzard/Tecnica’s Global Women to Women (W2W) Program Leader Leslie Baker-Brown reflects on a decade of impact — and shares what’s ahead for the program’s 10-year anniversary. A three-time All-American skier and Giant Slalom National Champion in her sophomore year of college, Leslie knows a thing or two about turning a ski — and how the right gear can elevate performance while making skiing more...

Blizzard/Tecnica’s Global Women to Women (W2W) Program Leader Leslie Baker-Brown reflects on a decade of impact — and shares what’s ahead for the program’s 10-year anniversary. A three-time All-American skier and Giant Slalom National Champion in her sophomore year of college, Leslie knows a thing or two about turning a ski — and how the right gear can elevate performance while making skiing more...

Jeb Boyd, Head Coach of the PSIA-AASI National Team, joins the Chaos and Company crew for a powerful conversation about alignment within the membership and its connection to education. Together, they dive into the Learning Connection Model, exploring its fundamentals and the driving force behind elevating education for members as well as the skiing and snowboarding public. Jeb also shares insights...

Jeb Boyd, Head Coach of the PSIA-AASI National Team, joins the Chaos and Company crew for a powerful conversation about alignment within the membership and its connection to education. Together, they dive into the Learning Connection Model, exploring its fundamentals and the driving force behind elevating education for members as well as the skiing and snowboarding public. Jeb also shares insights...

The wait is over. The nights are cooling down. And the preseason chaos is officially underway. The newest podcast from Chaos & Company, is bringing you a full-blown mountain matchup straight from the high-altitude training grounds of Portillo, Chile — where the real ones go to get dialed before our winter even starts. Suiting up for the season: Michael Rogan – the seasoned vet with a playbook...

The wait is over. The nights are cooling down. And the preseason chaos is officially underway. The newest podcast from Chaos & Company, is bringing you a full-blown mountain matchup straight from the high-altitude training grounds of Portillo, Chile — where the real ones go to get dialed before our winter even starts. Suiting up for the season: Michael Rogan – the seasoned vet with a playbook...

The Chaos and Company duo discuss the importance of student responsibility in their own learning journey. They emphasize how individuals can leverage available opportunities and resources to create personalized educational pathways that align with their goals. While the process isn’t always easy, it’s ultimately up to each person to recognize what they have access to and find ways to use those opp...

The Chaos and Company duo discuss the importance of student responsibility in their own learning journey. They emphasize how individuals can leverage available opportunities and resources to create personalized educational pathways that align with their goals. While the process isn’t always easy, it’s ultimately up to each person to recognize what they have access to and find ways to use those opp...

Dave and Angelo sit down for an engaging conversation about Elle's journey from Tussey Mountain in Pennsylvania to becoming a PSIA Alpine Team Member. Elle began skiing at Tussey Mountain and has had a passion for the sport since her first days on snow. Tune in to this episode to learn how hard work, passion, and seizing opportunities have helped Elle grow into a world-class ski instructor. Wi...