Barbara O’Brien

The Empathetic Trainer

Kids EN ↓ 33 episodes

Welcome to ”The Empathetic Trainer,” the podcast that explores the power of empathetic animal training  Animals just want to be heard.  This is an emerging trend among trainers, veterinarians, pet professionals and animal lovers just like yourself.  Join us as we learn the challenges our guests faced, as they grew their understanding and connection with the animals in their lives.

Author

Barbara O’Brien

Category

Kids

Podcast website

www.empathetic-trainer.com

Latest episode

Jun 13, 2026

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Episodes

Trust: Horses Make Us Earn It • Janet Jones, Neuroscientist, Horsewoman, and Author • S4 E33 13.06.2026

Send us Fan Mail Horse Brain, Human Brain was one of the first books I read when I was trying to understand horses better. So when I had the chance to sit down with its author, Janet Jones, for the podcast, I was pretty excited. Janet is a neuroscientist, horsewoman, and the author of her new book, A Horse's World . We talked about trust, fear, learning, the horse's sensory system, and s...

Horses, Trauma & Healing — “Horses Notice What We Hide” with Toni Mattson S4 E32 12.05.2026

Send us Fan Mail Today I’m talking with Toni Mattson of Trinity Equestrian Center in Eau Claire, Wisconsin. Toni and her team work with horses alongside veterans, first responders, youth, and individuals facing trauma, PTSD, dementia, and other life challenges. We talk about what horses notice about people, why they respond so honestly to emotion, and how animals can help people reconnect with hop...

It's Not The Spook, It's What Happens Next - Christine Beattie - S4 E31 15.04.2026

Send us Fan Mail What happens after the horse reacts? In this conversation, I talk with carriage driving trainer Christine Beattie about how driving changes the way we communicate with a horse — and why it can have such a big impact on the relationship. We talk about ground driving, working horses in real-world environments, and what horses need from us when things feel uncertain. A big part of th...

Understanding Dogs in a Human World - Heather Mishefske S4 E 30 04.04.2026

Send us Fan Mail In this episode of The Empathetic Trainer, I talk with Heather Mishefske of Embark Dog Training School. I’ve spent my whole life with herding dogs. Then I got an Australian Terrier… and realized pretty quickly that my usual way of doing things wasn’t going to work. This little guy has opinions. So I went looking for help, and that’s how I found Heather. We talk about what it’s lik...

Every Horse is a Soul in a Non Human Body - Gabi Neurohr - S4 E29 04.03.2026

Send us Fan Mail In this episode of The Empathetic Trainer Podcast, I talk with horsewoman and educator Gabi Neurohr about building trust with horses, understanding horse behavior, and creating a true partnership between horse and human. From the moment we started talking, I felt an immediate connection to the way Gabi sees horses. So much of what she said rang true for me and my own experience wo...

Find a Dog That is Going to Make You Happy - Denise Fenzi - S4 E28 09.02.2026

Send us Fan Mail “Find a dog that’s going to make you happy.” I sit down with Denise Fenzi to talk about choosing the right dog for your real life — not the one you think you should want. We talk about fit, expectations, training, and working with the dog in front of you. https://www.empathetic-trainer.com/

Listening Is Noticing — Amelia Thomas (S4 · E27) 15.01.2026

Send us Fan Mail In this episode of The Empathetic Trainer , I talk with Amelia Thomas about what it really means to listen to animals. We’re not talking about techniques or quick fixes. We’re talking about slowing down, paying attention, and noticing what animals are already showing us—often in very quiet, subtle ways. Amelia shares how listening starts with presence, not interpretation, and how...

Rachel Windchaser - Remembering Who We are Through Horses S3 E26 14.10.2025

Send us Fan Mail In this episode of The Empathetic Trainer Podcast , Barbara O’Brien talks with Rachel Windchaser, author and equine rewilding coach. Rachel runs Winchaser Ranch in Spain, where she cares for a rare herd of Spanish Mustangs. They talk about what it really means to “rewild” — how slowing down, breathing, and paying attention can change the way we connect with horses and with ourselv...

Jessica Gonzales - Every Horse and Every Person Deserves a Second Chance S3 E25 02.03.2025

Send us Fan Mail In this episode of The Empathetic Trainer podcast, host Barbara O’Brien chats with Jessica Gonzalez, a dedicated horse rescuer and author of Equine Empowerment . They discuss how horses help people heal, the power of positive reinforcement training, and the deep bond between horses and young people. Jessica shares her journey, the challenges of running a nonprofit, and the importa...

Dr. Shelly Appleton - My Horse's Problem was Actually Me - S2 E23 16.11.2024

Send us Fan Mail Barbara O’Brien talks with horse trainer, coach and author Dr. Shelley Appleton about building trust and confidence between riders and their horses. Shelley shares how things like fear, aging, and hormones can affect riding, especially for women. They talk about the importance of patience, understanding, and learning to see things from the horse’s point of view.  In addition to be...

Chelsey Bosak - All Of Our Dogs End Up Where They Are Meant to Be - S2 E 22 21.09.2024

Send us Fan Mail Have you ever wondered what it takes to train a service dog that can transform someone's life? In this heartwarming episode, we sit down with Chelsey Bosak from Helping Paws Minnesota, an organization that specializes in training service dogs for individuals with physical disabilities, veterans, and first responders affected by PTSD. Chelsey shares her journey to becoming Hel...

Chris Lombard - The Power of Patience and Presence in Horse Training - S2 E21 22.07.2024

Send us Fan Mail Have you ever felt a profound connection to something that completely shifted your life's direction?  In this episode of the Empathetic Trainer Podcast, we chat with Chris Lombard, a horse trainer and author who found his calling in the equine world at the age of 26. Chris shares his transformative journey from a conventional life to one filled with the peace and purpose he d...

Ingrid Henry - What we are Trying to Communicate is Trust - S2 E20 20.07.2024

Send us Fan Mail Ingrid Henry, an equine coach, discusses the importance of trust and consistency in building a strong relationship with horses. Ingrid emphasizes the need for patience and understanding when working with challenging horses and highlights the value of undemanding time spent with them. She also addresses the issue of fear in horse-human relationships and offers advice on how to over...

Grace Olson - There is Something Magical about Horses and Sheep that dissolves your sadness and brings you back into the light S2 E 19 18.07.2024

Send us Fan Mail Experience the transformative power of animal therapy with our special guest Grace Olson, a dedicated therapist and author from Leeds, West Yorkshire, whose unique practice involves the compassionate companionship of horses and sheep. Grace shares her fascinating journey into animal therapy, which began with her sheep, Merlin, providing unexpected comfort to a depressed client. Di...

Kari Bastyr - Your Dog is Not Bad, He is Just Having a Hard Time S2 E18 27.05.2024

Send us Fan Mail Kari Bastier of Wag &Train, is a dog behaviorist and canine nutritionist. She debunks the dominance theory, showing that dogs act out due to stress and anxiety and not a desire to dominate their owners. Carrie emphasizes the gut-brain connection, sharing stories about Paisley, a chocolate lab, whose behavior issues were improved by a simple change in diet.   https://www.empath...

Julie Smart - What Horses Want - Trust, Communication and Leadership 11.05.2024

Send us Fan Mail New Zealand Horse advocate and author, Julie Smart joins Barbara O'Brien in a conversation not just about training, but about retraining ourselves to listen, to watch, and to feel the subtle cues that horses give us when trying to communicate.  We talk about how spending undemanding time with our horses changes how they feel about and us and can really help build a better, mo...

Susan Friedland - The True Story of Marguerite Henry and Misty of Chincoteague S2 E16 16.04.2024

Send us Fan Mail Susan Friedland and I explore the world of Marguerite Henry, a beloved author whose stories have enchanted readers for years. From "Misty of Chincoteague" to "King of the Wind" and so many others, Henry's books have made a lasting impression on people of all ages. We talk about how much Henry loved horses, especially Morgan horses, and how her stories were...

Laura Carter - What Your Dog Wants is You - S2 E15 02.04.2024

Send us Fan Mail Join Barbara O'Brien as she chats with Laura Carter, a dog trainer and author, about the secrets to bonding with your dog, even during indoor downtime or when they're on rest. Laura shares practical tips for keeping your pup mentally engaged, including fun activities like scent work. They also debunk common myths about dog training, emphasizing the importance of kindness...

Kera Wilhelmsen - You Want Your Dog to Trust You, Right? S2 E14 24.03.2024

Send us Fan Mail In this interview, Barbara O'Brien talks with Kara Wilhelmsen from Creature Comforts Pet Services about her approach to animal training. Kera stresses the importance of kindness and understanding when working with animals, rather than using fear or intimidation. She shares her experiences working with dogs, including her own challenges with a reactive border collie named Tayl...

Lockie Phillips - When it comes to Horses, Obedience is Out and Empathy is In - S2 E3 23.02.2024

Send us Fan Mail Lockie Phillips, Founder of Emotional Horsemanship, joins us on our podcast to share his insights on empathy and horses. He tells us how we can reimagine horse training and move beyond obedience to establish a deeper connection based on compassion.  Lockie believes that training programs should be horse centered and focused on the well- being of the horse rather than performance....

Lynn Acton - Alternatives to Dominance Based Horsemanship - S2 E12 30.01.2024

Send us Fan Mail Tune in to hear Lynn Acton, acclaimed author and horse trainer, share practical tips on how to build trust and connection with your horse. Learn about the basics of earning trust, using clear body language, moving away from dominance based training, and understanding horses' emotions. Lynn also talks about being a protector leader and what horses really want from us. Get simp...

Mikel Delgado - The Big Problem? They Don't Understand Cats - S2 E11 26.01.2024

Send us Fan Mail Join us as we speak with cat behaviorist,  Mikel Delgado about how your cat's name can affect its personality and why it's hard for some cats to just get along.  Learn about Mikel's journey from being in a  punk rock band to cat expert. Learn how to make a happy home for multiple cats and discover easy ways to keep your cat content. Get simple tips to take better ca...

Dr. Susan Fay - Sacred Spaces - Communicating with the Horse through Science and Spirit - S1 E10 22.12.2023

Send us Fan Mail Summary Dr. Susan Faye discusses the importance of horses in our lives and the lessons they teach us. She emphasizes the need for emotional awareness and being present with horses and other animals. Dr. Faye explains how energy regulation and acknowledging our emotions can improve our relationships with animals. She also discusses her book 'Sacred Spaces' and the science...

Dr. Ian Dunbar - With Dogs, Increasing the Good, Decreases the Bad - S1 E9 19.12.2023

Send us Fan Mail When Dr. Ian Dunbar talks about dogs, it's impossible not to sit up and listen. His latest work, "Barking Up the Right Tree," is more than a book; it's a manifesto for compassionate canine companionship that promises to redefine our relationships with our four-legged friends.  Tales of cows with personality and horses with heart remind us that the principles of...

Tiffany Stauffer - Give Them the Right Tools and Let Your Horses Think for Themselves - S1 E8 14.11.2023

Send us Fan Mail Ever wished you could truly understand the world of horses? Longed for a deeper connection that transcends conventional horse training? Join host, Barbara O'Brien as we talk with with liberty trainer Tiffany Stauffer of Grace and Grit Horsemanship, who left the financially secure world of engineering to start her own business helping people learn how to do liberty training an...

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